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Valder 02-28-2002 10:51 AM

Here is a solution

Make hats and dolls free, but you can only hold 2 or 3 hats and only 1 doll.

konidias 02-28-2002 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Googi
If you are gonna put 100 bread baking tables and 50 ovens then reset the server, more power to you, but what are the chances that will happen?
Why would all that be needed exactly?

Torankusu 02-28-2002 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


How does the market have anything to do with it? People could just as easily drop items and drop gralat to buy and sell, the market just provides a safer way to do it.

The market did not produce money and items.

It was sarcasm.

I will mention how it lead to alot of people being scammed due to their own stupidity, which WAS expected. We didn't have that many hats when the market was put up, but people tried to sell hats for 4x the price at the shop.

Googi 02-28-2002 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


Why would all that be needed exactly?

Well because if everything is reset, people will flood the bread baking house.

02-28-2002 10:53 AM

they shouldnt be free, they should be like 5 gralat for a doll, 10 for a hat unless it is a nice hat. you would have only like 10 slots in your sack for them, and there would be simple quests for hats and such.

konidias 02-28-2002 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Well because if everything is reset, people will flood the bread baking house.

Not if the economy was different and g2k1 wasn't all about working.. just think about it please.

Valder 02-28-2002 10:54 AM

Reset Gralats, remove ALL jobs, instead of auctioning houses, hold events for them and instead of rent have them do something to keep it each week or just make small communities and give everyone a house.

Googi 02-28-2002 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
Reset Gralats, remove ALL jobs, instead of auctioning houses, hold events for them and instead of rent have them do something to keep it each week or just make small communities and give everyone a house.
Umm...I don't know if making G2K1 into a copy of G2K2 without the improved graphics is such a good idea.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-28-2002 10:55 AM

For everyone that said "OH NO IF U DO THIS I WILL QUITE OPMGOGMGO" well...

Go ahead and quit. Yes, we would lose a lot of people, plenty of people, but a lot of those would be the stupid "saijin" race people that destroyed Graal 2001 in the first place. And if there was a reset I bet there would be more upgrades in the future, because when people come onto Graal 2001 thy would actually HAVE A CHANCE to get some money and not be thrown into the hole of despair and poverty that they start out in automatically.


So, yes, please reset the economy, make Graal 2001 fun again

Hyped 02-28-2002 10:56 AM

Graal2001 is the only server I know that is based on economy and I think its pretty stupid. I'm up for this reset.

Torankusu 02-28-2002 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Umm...I don't know if making G2K1 into a copy of G2K2 without the improved graphics is such a good idea.

Hey. Do you know what roleplaying is?

Sir_Gareth 02-28-2002 10:57 AM

make a tax npc or something

Googi 02-28-2002 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


Not if the economy was different and g2k1 wasn't all about working.. just think about it please.

A reset won't stop people from wanting money.

spi 02-28-2002 10:57 AM

HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE EVERY1 STAFF BOOTS AND ALL THE HATS AND A BILJINNION DOLLARS AND THE WORLD WOULD E HAPPY:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Valder 02-28-2002 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
For everyone that said "OH NO IF U DO THIS I WILL QUITE OPMGOGMGO" well...

Go ahead and quit. Yes, we would lose a lot of people, plenty of people, but a lot of those would be the stupid "saijin" race people that destroyed Graal 2001 in the first place. And if there was a reset I bet there would be more upgrades in the future, because when people come onto Graal 2001 thy would actually HAVE A CHANCE to get some money and not be thrown into the hole of despair and poverty that they start out in automatically.


So, yes, please reset the economy, make Graal 2001 fun again

I would also quit. I did not spend 1 year on 2k1 just to have everything I have reset because people want more money. Reset gralats and remove all job weapons, and make more bomy jobs and more human jobs and make it so you can only own 10 hats and 1 doll.

02-28-2002 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Hey. Do you know what roleplaying is?
its something them dirty rock stealers do, thats what!

Torankusu 02-28-2002 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
For everyone that said "OH NO IF U DO THIS I WILL QUITE OPMGOGMGO" well...

Go ahead and quit. Yes, we would lose a lot of people, plenty of people, but a lot of those would be the stupid "saijin" race people that destroyed Graal 2001 in the first place. And if there was a reset I bet there would be more upgrades in the future, because when people come onto Graal 2001 thy would actually HAVE A CHANCE to get some money and not be thrown into the hole of despair and poverty that they start out in automatically.


So, yes, please reset the economy, make Graal 2001 fun again

i'm all for it, but I want to keep my bomys. :\

I don't want to lose them so close to the supposed release of generation four.

02-28-2002 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Valder


I would also quit. I did not spend 1 year on 2k1 just to have everything I have reset because people want more money. Reset gralats and remove all job weapons, and make more bomy jobs and more human jobs and make it so you can only own 10 hats and 1 doll.

1 doll? I think at least 2, or maybe 3, so you would be able to give them as presents!

Googi 02-28-2002 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Hey. Do you know what roleplaying is?
Yes, I do know what it is, but let's face it, unless BirdBird is going to somehow pull something off that will stop the bread baking rush, or make it possible, I'm against the reset.

Sir_Gareth 02-28-2002 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
make a tax npc or something
Like for each item a person has they pay tax for or something.

gloop 02-28-2002 10:59 AM

take my grallet
 
even if you just take mt grallet, i have rent to pay and there is no way i can make 750g in less then a week

Infamy 02-28-2002 10:59 AM

This is truely the only game in this world that resets it's servers over and over and over, I have played a ot of games but Graalonline takes home the trophy award for resets.

And BirdBird if you do reset the gralats just because the economy is 'booming' or out of 'control', you will lose some good customers. It's not really the players who are at fault here I can name a few staff who I have seen use the gralat system to make money and than go waste it at the market, but I'm not one who points the finger at people and blame them for doing it, I have also seen some new players who I have never seen before in my life come online and start selling things for a large sum of money, and than just the other night someone with the account name "Stormy Days' comes on and starts to hack dolls, gralats, and than the scout hat which only staff have and yes this is the reason why people have so many dolls now and why there being sold by many people now.

I don't know what will turn this server around but you better think of something good, think of it fast, and don't even consider reseting the gralats.

LordMatt 02-28-2002 10:59 AM

Rent-A-Hat
Rent-A-Doll
Rent-A-Kart
Rent-A-Shoe

psihunter 02-28-2002 11:00 AM

you should beable to make your own hats/dolls by using somes sort of formula for example

Hats -
Knight's Helmet -3 iron 2 durby
(sun)glasess - 3 lbs of sand 4 iron
Egg head would be found by finding bird nests and stealing egg

Dolls -
Using cloth and cotton you can sew together new dolls (this would require some sort of skill)

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-28-2002 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
i'm all for it, but I want to keep my bomys. :\

I don't want to lose them so close to the supposed release of generation four.

I have a bomy, and I would lose it for this cause that may just save the server

But seriously, if we removed the trading temple.. and put it back up in a few months I think it would be a great idea to let people keep the bomys. It's just a novelty they could have

Torankusu 02-28-2002 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by spi
HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE EVERY1 STAFF BOOTS AND ALL THE HATS AND A BILJINNION DOLLARS AND THE WORLD WOULD E HAPPY:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
SPI SUCKS

Sir_Gareth 02-28-2002 11:01 AM

tax npc <.<

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-28-2002 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Infamy
This is truely the only game in this world that resets it's servers over and over and over, I have played a ot of games but Graalonline takes home the trophy award for resets.

And BirdBird if you do reset the gralats just because the economy is 'booming' or out of 'control', you will lose some good customers. It's not really the players who are at fault here I can name a few staff who I have seen use the gralat system to make money and than go waste it at the market, but I'm not one who points the finger at people and blame them for doing it, I have also seen some new players who I have never seen before in my life come online and start selling things for a large sum of money, and than just the other night someone with the account name "Stormy Days' comes on and starts to hack dolls, gralats, and than the scout hat which only staff have.

I don't know what will turn this server around but you better think of something good, think of it fast, and don't even consider reseting the gralats.

Classic has done it about three times, look how many people there vowed to quit. Well, have they? What about when ghost mode came online? Hmm.. I still don't see a change

There will always be new players, we cannot rely on the old ones to constantly traditionalize and support Graal

__XxRazorxX__ 02-28-2002 11:02 AM

I have mixed feelings about it i know that alot of oldbies have worked hard to get how they are today but on another hand i see where the newbies are coming from :confused:

LordMatt 02-28-2002 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter
you should beable to make your own hats/dolls by using somes sort of formula for example

Hats -
Knight's Helmet -3 iron 2 durby
(sun)glasess - 3 lbs of sand 4 iron
Egg head would be found by finding bird nests and stealing egg

Dolls -
Using cloth and cotton you can sew together new dolls (this would require some sort of skill)

I love it o.O

Torankusu 02-28-2002 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Yes, I do know what it is, but let's face it, unless BirdBird is going to somehow pull something off that will stop the bread baking rush, or make it possible, I'm against the reset.

What if we told you that money was not necessary to have fun in this game? Or that, money was only optional and that you could get most everything for free?

Like, a rental axe that you had to give like 10% of the gralats made mining to the Jewel?

Googi 02-28-2002 11:04 AM

Again, there will be a bread baking rush, the bread baking house will be constantly clogged etc...you will need more tables/ovens if you want to reset etc...

Sir_Gareth 02-28-2002 11:04 AM

TAX NPC

Hyped 02-28-2002 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter
you should beable to make your own hats/dolls by using somes sort of formula for example

Hats -
Knight's Helmet -3 iron 2 durby
(sun)glasess - 3 lbs of sand 4 iron
Egg head would be found by finding bird nests and stealing egg

Dolls -
Using cloth and cotton you can sew together new dolls (this would require some sort of skill)

I think that's a great idea.

Valder 02-28-2002 11:04 AM

Since I am tired and have to go to sleep I'm going to leave by saying this.

Graal's economy may be horrible and too inflated, but that's what 2k1 is. Remove gralats for all I care, but by removing all hats, dolls, and other items will cause much chaos and I am not willing to stick around another year just to try and get everything I have worked hard to get. If this happens I will say goodbye to all of you.

LordMatt 02-28-2002 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by __XxRazorxX__
I have mixed feelings about it i know that alot of oldbies have worked hard to get how they are today but on another hand i see where the newbies are coming from :confused:
Razor think about it. It'd be a experince about once in a graalian life, starting ALL over just like new, less lag and all everything peaceful lots more pking its paradise for about another year

Hyped 02-28-2002 11:08 AM

I think we should do ghost pirates idea. Invent new jobs to make your own things and then you can sell them at the markets and it would have more sentimental value.

Googi 02-28-2002 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Like, a rental axe that you had to give like 10% of the gralats made mining to the Jewel?
Hmm...wouldn't work, rock stealing would ruin it.

Well, really, all you really need is a bomy and playerhouse, then you've "beaten" graal2K1 moneywise.

(I'm working on the playerhouse x_x)

If BirdBird wants to reset the server, he can, but all the new stuff that would need to be added would take months of preperation

Cy36 02-28-2002 11:09 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O.o
 
I wasted 400hours of my life on graal2001 and i dont wanna watch it go out the window..... i am having enough probs with the stands and i dont want to get anymore pissed off :grrr: thank you very much, i think we should keep it the way it is, or else it'll just turn into a big circle where people just keep getting a lot of money and you guys keep on resetting everything, so i just think you should let the graal economy grow and see what will happen rather than whiping out everything! :o

02-28-2002 11:09 AM

RESET EVERYTHING EXCEPT HOURS AND KILLS/DEATHS and make it alot easier to obtain things such as bomys, but harder to obtain rarer bomys, so that you would have to win events or do quests for things for bomy power ups.


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