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Googi 02-24-2002 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
They were co-owners of graal2001, I thought...
Well, that's not the point, but are they equal in power now?

Brad 02-24-2002 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Googi


Well, that's not the point, but are they equal in power now?

rocks will never get an owner tag as long as I live

Python523 02-24-2002 11:26 PM

Are the HROs gone now?

Beowulf2 02-24-2002 11:37 PM

Whoo! Birdbird loses power! This is definitely a step in the right direction.

AlkarenHyralt 02-24-2002 11:57 PM

Thank you unixmad.

Domini 02-25-2002 12:01 AM

Things like this never happened when Mr. Bear and NightLord were CGO.

Faheria_LAT3 02-25-2002 12:04 AM

S I L V E R:
Well at least this doesnt seem to be affecting playerworlds

Brad 02-25-2002 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Beowulf2
Whoo! Birdbird loses power! This is definitely a step in the right direction.

James 02-25-2002 12:19 AM

Such a great idea unixmad. This is possibly one of the best things you have done. And yes, IceHawk, even though people hated NL he kept most stuff in order without a lot of nonsense.

Hulk Hogan 02-25-2002 12:23 AM

wow :)!

This sounds like a great idea Unixmad.

How long til everything is organized and it goes into effect?

Domini 02-25-2002 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by James
Such a great idea unixmad. This is possibly one of the best things you have done. And yes, IceHawk, even though people hated NL he kept most stuff in order without a lot of nonsense.
Best times in my opinion :D

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-25-2002 12:30 AM

I don't have a clue what is going on... perhaps it's in other threads. All I have heard so far is that Contego is trying to dismantl 2k1

brock128 02-25-2002 12:40 AM

...this is chaos.

:grrr:

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:11 AM

Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Loriel
Birdbird and me are the Graal2001 Managers then, which means that we are the highest instance there under Unixmad and Stefan.
This is exactly what unixmad doesnt want. Staff like "O IM THE HIGHEST next to unixmad, o LOOK AT ME, you know IM COOL I GOT THE LEVEL 5 RC, SO IM SO freee".

Questa 02-25-2002 01:14 AM

Maybe Birdbird is banned because he needs to get to work on 2002 rather than play on 2001, and we can't have that now can we unixmad. :eek:

Torankusu 02-25-2002 01:16 AM

How is this the best thing to ever happen?

Contego didn't follow it, from what I know. He went and banned birdbird and alkaren, and then he lowered Loriel's RC. And he accused me of many things and fired/suspended me because I was following what Loriel had told me. I went ahead and gave her the list (The guild txt file which I told her had them) and he says I didn't co-operate.

Everyone seems to be out to get certain people, now.


Don't forget how he acted like EVERYTHING he said was right, even though unixmad or stefan was not there to back it. He went and banned people for that. It's stupid, really.

I like the organization idea, though. Just make it so HROs cannot do things like this, and don't allow people like contego to do things like this again. If you handled this directly, it'd be alot better.

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:17 AM

Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Bear


This is exactly what unixmad doesnt want. Staff like "O IM THE HIGHEST next to unixmad, o LOOK AT ME, you know IM COOL I GOT THE LEVEL 5 RC, SO IM SO freee".

INFACT where is that wubber Galen?
::Scratches Fur In Bewilderment::

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:18 AM

Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear
This is exactly what unixmad doesnt want. Staff like "O IM THE HIGHEST next to unixmad, o LOOK AT ME, you know IM COOL I GOT THE LEVEL 5 RC, SO IM SO freee".
You may notice that I was cut back of 3 rc levels and my globality, I'm just letting people know.
For myself, I'd rather say that I have no power at all and cannot help people, but I try to do my job.

Hyped 02-25-2002 01:24 AM

You can help people with out the damn rc in other ways, you do not need rc for everything.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by Hyped
You can help people with out the damn rc in other ways, you do not need rc for everything.
True, so?

Hyped 02-25-2002 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Domini
Things like this never happened when Mr. Bear and NightLord were CGO.
I want bear back, he was strict but fun and kept everything in order.

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:28 AM

Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Loriel

You may notice that I was cut back of 3 rc levels and my globality, I'm just letting people know.
For myself, I'd rather say that I have no power at all and cannot help people, but I try to do my job.

I dont care what rc you have. You were trying to flash your power and that disgusts me. Its not the rc you have its what you do with it that shows really who you are.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:30 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Bear
I dont care what rc you have. You were trying to flash your power and that disguists me. Its not the rc you have its what you do with it that shows really who you are.
I were definately not trying to show off with the RC. It was just stating a fact. I think it's sad that you instantly attack me for it.

Lyndzey 02-25-2002 01:33 AM

Guys, you do realize that only 1 other person other than Unixmad and Stefan will have global level 4 RC? This person is James 205. He no longer has help from his AMs. He has to change a number of passwords and fix many accounts. This is one thing I'm upset about.

The other thing I am mad about is Contego. He's a great GM, he keeps things and order and DOES stuff. When NL was GM, he was inactive. He came on about once a week and that was to assign us stupid Classic_GP# accounts. Contego is much more professional and will help 2001 for the better. Oh, and Contego disabled Birdbird's RC because I think Birdbird tried to ban Contego.

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:34 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
I were definately not trying to show off with the RC. It was just stating a fact. I think it's sad that you instantly attack me for it.
Im not "attacking" you for it. You were stating a fact but did that help anyone by stating you are the most powerful person next to unixmad and stefan as of right now. No it didn't. How about you tell us what your going to do and what your plans are to improve any bad conditions that are present. I could tell you 20 things wrong off the bat that are the old GMS fault for not fixing NOT UNIXMADS. He hires you trusting you yete you guys make silly NPCS for yourself and you run around with your RC like its some SHOW dog.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
Guys, you do realize that only 1 other person other than Unixmad and Stefan will have global level 4 RC? This person is James 205. He no longer has help from his AMs. He has to change a number of passwords and fix many accounts. This is one thing I'm upset about.

The other thing I am mad about is Contego. He's a great GM, he keeps things and order and DOES stuff. When NL was GM, he was inactive. He came on about once a week and that was to assign us stupid Classic_GP# accounts. Contego is much more professional and will help 2001 for the better. Oh, and Contego disabled Birdbird's RC because I think Birdbird tried to ban Contego.

Good, from what I hear why should contego even be still around now? and birdbird does alot for g2k1 same with many of the other staff, things were just starting to get intresting, then some idiot comes in and bans everyone!? I am not understanding right someone explain more please.

ZanderX 02-25-2002 01:35 AM

No offense, Lyndzey, but...

Contego was a great GM who interfered where he shouldn't have.

A great GM who tried to run other people's servers for them.

Birdbird DID ban Contego. There's a log, and I'll send it to you if you wish.

It most likely will change your opinion of Contego.

Hyped 02-25-2002 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
Guys, you do realize that only 1 other person other than Unixmad and Stefan will have global level 4 RC? This person is James 205. He no longer has help from his AMs. He has to change a number of passwords and fix many accounts. This is one thing I'm upset about.

The other thing I am mad about is Contego. He's a great GM, he keeps things and order and DOES stuff. When NL was GM, he was inactive. He came on about once a week and that was to assign us stupid Classic_GP# accounts. Contego is much more professional and will help 2001 for the better. Oh, and Contego disabled Birdbird's RC because I think Birdbird tried to ban Contego.

Well I like the fact that Contego is trying to get everything in order and such, and as far as Birdbird tyring to ban Contego..that was just wrong.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:36 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Bear
Im not "attacking" you for it. You were stating a fact but did that help anyone by stating you are the most powerful person next to unixmad and stefan as of right now. No it didn't. How about you tell us what your going to do and what your plans are to improve any bad conditions that are present. I could tell you 20 things wrong of the bat that are the old GMS fault for not fixing NOT UNIXMADS. He hires you trusting you yete you guys make silly NPCS for yourself and you run around with your RC like its some SHOW dog.
Yes, I guess it did help people... they know who to talk to.
Can you list some NPCs "I made for myself"?

Crono Illusion 02-25-2002 01:36 AM

Also, one more strike against contego:

I was informed recently that contego has given out Mithica's FTP information to Unholy Nations or one of the other servers at least once. contego, that's really, really low.

Also, as the PW Administrator, I declare Torankusu rehired.

PW Reviewers check offline PWs that wish to go up, inspectors randomly look for copyrighted material.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Hyped
Well I like the fact that Contego is trying to get everything in order and such, and as far as Birdbird tyring to ban Contego..that was just wrong.
I disagree. What would you do if a GM comes to your server and makes rules for you, while you are the local highest admin?
[edit]Did you even read that log?[/edit]

Griffyn 02-25-2002 01:38 AM

hey lets have Global FAQ's.

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:38 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel

Yes, I guess it did help people... they know who to talk to.
Can you list some NPCs "I made for myself"?

LORIEL its not always about you. Its about who works under you that you need to watch for. I saw about 20 people with warpto running around on G2K1 the first day i was back. Explain that? I also some staff im not going to mention flashing their npcs that they made for themselves in the markets.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crono Illusion
Also, one more strike against contego:

I was informed recently that contego has given out Mithica's FTP information to Unholy Nations or one of the other servers at least once. contego, that's really, really low.

Also, as the PW Administrator, I declare Torankusu rehired.

PW Reviewers check offline PWs that wish to go up, inspectors randomly look for copyrighted material.

I would believe it, right now contego seems to be messed up in his mind for doing what he did. Unless I am not hearing the whole story, I just don't get why he is not even banned from graal for good =/

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel

I disagree. What would you do if a GM comes to your server and makes rules for you, while you are the local highest admin?
[edit]Did you even read that log?[/edit]

why is it always about the administrators!

If those rules needed to be placed on that certain person or server, then maybe its for the better. How would you feel if some administrator comes on the server to play with all these npcs? I sure would want my subscription money back.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:40 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Bear
LORIEL its not always about you. Its about who works under you that you need to watch for. I saw about 20 people with warpto running around on G2K1 the first day i was back. Explain that? I also some staff im not going to mention flashing their npcs that they made for themselves in the markets.
There are no 20 staff guys with warpto, unless you count global admins.
It's just stupid that you try to tell us how to do the job...

Hyped 02-25-2002 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel

I disagree. What would you do if a GM comes to your server and makes rules for you, while you are the local highest admin?
[edit]Did you even read that log?[/edit]

Well lets put it this way, I was told this stuff this morning and I was on Contegos side. Then I read the log and I was kind of half and half. I think some things he did or was trying to do are right and some are wrong but he had more authority over you, and yes you do run that pw but I think he was just trying to do his job. I think he went about some things in the wrong way though.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 01:42 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear


LORIEL its not always about you. Its about who works under you that you need to watch for. I saw about 20 people with warpto running around on G2K1 the first day i was back. Explain that? I also some staff im not going to mention flashing their npcs that they made for themselves in the markets.

warpto is not really bad, I think responsable police and FAQ should get it to help people faster. It took me 5 min to get to the mining place to stop someone from stealing rocks. By that time the rocks were all gone.

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 01:43 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Loriel

There are no 20 staff guys with warpto, unless you count global admins.
It's just stupid that you try to tell us how to do the job...


You think you can just forget about all thep people that pay just so you can have a little fun time up in that rc world of yours.

Loriel 02-25-2002 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear
why is it always about the administrators!
If those rules needed to be placed on that certain person or server, then maybe its for the better. How would you feel if some administrator comes on the server to play with all these npcs? I sure would want my subscription money back.

Please notice that contego had no right to tell Bird how to run the server, or to fire Torankusu, or just being plain rude to G2k1 staff.


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