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Xenoith 07-25-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 1739301)
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Thank you for responding, what would you propose then, with Zodiac in it's current state of affairs there isn't much hope for it. Would reaching out to other scripters help it? I love the server, but the bias hiring has to go. There are many talented individuals on the server who have offered to help make the server prosper and we even have some submitted weapons players made that got used, and some of them are even weapon skins now. Not sure why Ketsomaru is refusing to hire people and Raven613 is MIA and unresponsive, only popping up to do delegated task he feels like doing.

If anything I think another investigation needs to be launched as to why development came to a grinding halt. Now I will say this much, we were promised about 9 months ago new classes. The developer Ryu made a new class in about half a years time "by himself" . Between Raven, Symmasolan and Ketsomaru. Neither one of them has put out a single class.

Crono 07-25-2016 05:11 PM

dont need more classes to pile onto the shitshow

Kuzative 07-28-2016 12:24 PM

I still fail to understand the idea of shutting down Zodiac. It's at an all-time low playercount but it's still in the top 3 played servers at the moment since PC Graal has a low playercount overall.

But one thing I noticed is almost half of Era's playercount are former Zodiac players...I think if Zodiac wants to get these people back then any future big updates should be done in the login news so these players can see it.

Anyway Zodiac has always had a lack of developers and that can't really be blamed on management because our playerbase isn't really full of people who can do dev for them to hire in the first place.

Ceasar 07-28-2016 05:46 PM

it is a management issue, delteria has hired a whole lot more developers and it usually had a similar or less playercount so that can't be an excuse.

zodiac was one of the very few servers to be fortunate enough to recieve freelance gfx help from the playerbase, i hardly see anything like this on other servers.

that won't likely happen now that it's completely dead and it will only be fixed by replacing the inactive manager, no offense but jerret only cares about classic.

fowlplay4 07-28-2016 11:02 PM

I believe the theory that the server fell into the community-event feedback loop that ultimately led the player-count to drop off when events could no longer sustain them-self.

If someone wants to take the reigns and lead Zodiac to a prosperous player-count, I'm all for it.

I just don't think that person exists given the circumstances and (unpaid) time investment that would be required to succeed.

Kuzative 07-29-2016 06:14 AM

Changing manager honestly wouldn't make a difference because we have no scripters/devs on the server to hire so we'd still get the same amount of updates (which seems to be what players complain about the most).

Honestly the game got boring for me when really epic sets starting to become common among everyone.

Also we had no active ETs for a very long period of time since Tiu decided to do double duty between Dev and ETA. I was kinda annoyed when Zodiac stopped doing the monthly tournaments a while ago especially since we had a good playercount.

Well Ketso has been teasing us with a big update soon...so idk but I think it's just the end of an era to be honest. PC Graal in general is dying.

Xenoith 07-29-2016 07:01 AM

Honestly you can find scripters VERY easily. The game lacks any serious advertising. Your best bet for scripters would be college students looking to use their education on scripting to come work on Zodiac in their spare time until they land a job, they could work on Zodiac, see where they go with it and then go from there. That's what Symmasolan does and Ketso does it as well. It's practice. Reddit is one of the internet's biggest pools of people next to 4chan. People go on reddit every day, so if someone can whip up a snazzy banner/flyer advertising Zodiac, that'd be great.

You wanna know something else though? Ragnarok Online I believe is older than Graal and they have prosperous private servers that are better than the original game. They do well because they constantly advertise.

Crono 09-05-2016 05:58 AM

welp time to delete zod and add malaria :pluffy:

maximus_asinus 09-05-2016 08:01 AM

I sometimes wonder if part of why PC Graal is dying is because of the lack of per server updates.

Crono 09-05-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1739730)
I sometimes wonder if part of why PC Graal is dying is because of the lack of per server updates.

ironically i think zod had too many updates for its own good

whos gonna sit there and farm when theyre worried about economy/their **** being **** tier? no security, who would want to continue playing?

xXziroXx 09-05-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1739725)
welp time to delete zod and add malaria :pluffy:

:oo:

Crono 09-05-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1739734)
:oo:

)))?

DeathOfRa 10-05-2016 10:57 AM

Shut it down.

Crono 10-05-2016 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathOfRa (Post 1740138)
Shut it down.

hi ra

DeathOfRa 10-05-2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1740140)
hi ra

What's up?

Crono 10-10-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathOfRa (Post 1740141)
What's up?

nm, you still play?

Kamaeru 11-29-2016 07:10 PM

I logged on Zodiac a few days ago and the server has potential, but it's so messy. The level design in general is putrid, there was a really poor choice of color for the tiles. It needs new level design and tile graphics. Other than that there are some neat effects, programming, ganis, etc. Not really my type of MMO but I do like grindy stuff. And yeah, the players are really annoying there (not expecting any different really though).

Also when I say that it needs new level designs, I mean it seriously. There was nothing I saw that is salvageable. Throw the entire OW in the trash, and interior levels, and start over.

Crono 11-30-2016 02:04 AM

new map would be cool but a lot of work

kia345 11-30-2016 02:12 AM

I don't know the intricacies of Zodiac very well, but would a new map really be a lot of work? It just needs to be big enough to contain entrances for the dungeons with enough space between nation flag or whatever

Kamaeru 11-30-2016 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1740456)
I don't know the intricacies of Zodiac very well, but would a new map really be a lot of work? It just needs to be big enough to contain entrances for the dungeons with enough space between nation flag or whatever

Yeah with modern dev tools like gonstruct and tile-editor I'm able to get large scale leveling jobs done quickly that previously would have taken much more time.

Crono 11-30-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1740456)
I don't know the intricacies of Zodiac very well, but would a new map really be a lot of work? It just needs to be big enough to contain entrances for the dungeons with enough space between nation flag or whatever

ya it would be because

1) no LATs
2) theres a lot of content

im under the impression that 80% of the OW is useless but you still have all the different dungeons so unless we start warping into them or just having dedicated rooms for levels (levels 1-9 here!) in OSL, there's a lot of levels to be done

fowlplay4 11-30-2016 07:01 PM

nobody is interested in investing 100s of hours to fix or redo anything in it's entirety anymore.

PlanetOscar 11-30-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1740460)
nobody is interested in investing 100s of hours to fix or redo anything in it's entirety anymore.

go bak to classic :redface:

fowlplay4 11-30-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PlanetOscar (Post 1740461)
go bak to classic :redface:

ok

PlanetOscar 12-01-2016 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1740462)
ok

sorry :cry:

fowlplay4 12-01-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PlanetOscar (Post 1740464)
sorry :cry:

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/up...zombieland.gif

Crono 12-01-2016 06:20 PM

zod will rise again 1 day

Xenoith 12-03-2016 03:16 PM

Well this sounds like good news. I went ahead and emailed Unixmad to see if we could potentially get a new manager for our server since Jerret show's no interest in Zodiac any more as a whole. Ketsomaru is really no longer relevant since Megiddo got bumped up to staff and Raven is AWOL, so we have no staff team at this point, which is really the skeleton of the server, without that we're gonna die off again. We're at a slow peak of 30-50 people average, which is really good. The server could use a fresh coat of paint if anything. Does anyone know how to get in contact with Unixmad directly, I emailed him and I'm sending him a message via forums. So maybe he'll look into this? I tried getting MD to look into the server issue, what we really need is a new staff team. I'm actually opening up a restoration team to see if we can get more people to hop aboard restoring Zodiac.

Crono 12-03-2016 09:00 PM

who are you gonna replace him with -^?

kia345 12-03-2016 09:46 PM

I nominate MD, if he can revitalize delteria, zodiac should be a cakewalk

PlanetOscar 12-03-2016 09:47 PM

Unix usually responds to e-mails if he thinks it is relevant

kia345 12-03-2016 09:57 PM

unless you emailed him about "iZodiac", I don't think he'll think it's relevant

Crono 12-03-2016 10:42 PM

zodiac fb where u unlock skill slots with money? $$$$$$$$

PlanetOscar 12-03-2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1740481)
unless you emailed him about "iZodiac", I don't think he'll think it's relevant

yeah, creates a conflict doesn't it? >_<

Kiri 12-04-2016 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1740482)
zodiac fb where u unlock skill slots with money? $$$$$$$$

you're looking at the next manager :noob:
http://i.imgur.com/rLdTjbn.png

kia345 12-04-2016 02:39 AM

tron bonne and super skrull was 2/3 of my team too, whoever that is has good taste

Crono 12-04-2016 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiri (Post 1740488)
you're looking at the next manager :noob:

hah :pluffy:

Xenoith 12-12-2016 01:06 AM

Update: Zodiac peaked out at 106 players today. A great milestone. But we're still not getting anywhere with staffing issues. Megiddo has been giving us small balance updates. No word from Ketsomaru. Jerett (Fowlplay4) has shown up today, but he refuses to have any interaction with players and wishes to do nothing when given ideas. He doesn't give feedback, so words go on deaf ears. I can't tell if he's just soaking the ideas in or not. Zodiac isn't getting anywhere with this kind of mentality from a manager.

Jerett refuses to step down as manager until a replacement can be found to take his place who will actually pick up the slack. He did say he was willing to step down, but not until worthy candidate is chosen to take his place.

So can we start looking please?

PlanetOscar 12-12-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenoith (Post 1740535)
Update: Zodiac peaked out at 106 players today. A great milestone. But we're still not getting anywhere with staffing issues. Megiddo has been giving us small balance updates. No word from Ketsomaru. Jerett (Fowlplay4) has shown up today, but he refuses to have any interaction with players and wishes to do nothing when given ideas. He doesn't give feedback, so words go on deaf ears. I can't tell if he's just soaking the ideas in or not. Zodiac isn't getting anywhere with this kind of mentality from a manager.

Jerett refuses to step down as manager until a replacement can be found to take his place who will actually pick up the slack. He did say he was willing to step down, but not until worthy candidate is chosen to take his place.

So can we start looking please?

I don't think anyone is fit replace Jerett at this point in time, perhaps you should give some suggestions on who you think is worthy.

Crono 12-15-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenoith (Post 1740535)
Update: Zodiac peaked out at 106 players today. A great milestone. But we're still not getting anywhere with staffing issues. Megiddo has been giving us small balance updates. No word from Ketsomaru. Jerett (Fowlplay4) has shown up today, but he refuses to have any interaction with players and wishes to do nothing when given ideas. He doesn't give feedback, so words go on deaf ears. I can't tell if he's just soaking the ideas in or not. Zodiac isn't getting anywhere with this kind of mentality from a manager.

Jerett refuses to step down as manager until a replacement can be found to take his place who will actually pick up the slack. He did say he was willing to step down, but not until worthy candidate is chosen to take his place.

So can we start looking please?

why do you care so much about staff vs the state of the server? even back when there were tons of staff members constantly interacting with players we hardly saw any major updates.


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