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Godzilla 07-30-2014 04:56 AM

I think it's just ridiculous, businesses are too hard to acquire through working for the business.

No Owner of a business is going to willingly let you raise in the ranks to take his business off him, there is no incentive for business owners to pass it down, they gain NOTHING from doing so.

That's why we sit here waiting for years on end for Ammo Mart or Gun Point to be auctioned off because an Owner of that establishment did something stupid, which rarely happens.

Businesses should be trade-able, with restrictions obviously.

GanNing 07-30-2014 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1729216)
I don't know when you saw them, but they were around 500$ a pop when I started buying all of them a few years ago

This. WPs used to be $500 each back in the day.

Scoper 07-30-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1729220)
I think it's just ridiculous, businesses are too hard to acquire through working for the business.

No Owner of a business is going to willingly let you raise in the ranks to take his business off him, there is no incentive for business owners to pass it down, they gain NOTHING from doing so.

That's why we sit here waiting for years on end for Ammo Mart or Gun Point to be auctioned off because an Owner of that establishment did something stupid, which rarely happens.

Businesses should be trade-able, with restrictions obviously.

This caters much more to rich players than hardworking ones. Richness (especially due to the introduction of betflipping) is not always a function of work output.

Making businesses sellable does not solve any perceived problems of 'being able to work your way up' in a business. It instead turns businesses into a commodity that will always have a price, and IMO decreases the value and meaning of owning one.

Also, since nobody else has said it, it's prettttttty obvious you're trying to force this rule into implementation so that you can buy a business, and not for the betterment of era. If you're gonna do somethin, be honest about it

Chorchizcool 07-30-2014 09:22 PM

With business being tradeable without staff approval, you have the ability for monopolies to be formed by certain players with the sole mind set of making dat money.


I support businesses being tradeable to an extent but with a heavy hand from staff watching over it.

You **** up? No refunds and removed.
Youre an ass? No refunds and removed.
Theres evidence of a monopoly being formed? Sorry, you arent allowed to buy it.

If businesses dont become tradeable? Dont really care, dont want one anyway.

Godzilla 07-30-2014 11:44 PM

Theres no denying that I want to buy a business, I have too much money and almost nothing I want to spend it on. I do think the system is broken though, never in my life have I worked up in a business to Ownership and thinking about it, it's almost impossible.

Why would you willingly let someone raise in rank just to eventually give them it? when you could log on once a week and do pay and have infinite cash income like some of the current Owners do?

I've talked to numerous players in businesses about it. They've all said the same thing; "I'm not noticed, I work hard weekly and get a few thousand a week, I've asked for rank ups but I don't get them".

I don't see an issue with someone working in the business for say a year and eventually having enough to buy the business off of the owner through the money they have been paid that year. I think that would be cool.

I don't see why monopoly's can't be formed either... If you have enough to do it why does it matter? If you as a business Owner notice a monopoly forming you can raise the price of your business and get a big sell out or keep it to destroy the monopoly, simple. It's not like money is being taken out of the economy or being pushed into the economy, it's just a small group of players all accumulating it.

Businesses will always have a surface value based off of past selling.
Food Businesses are worth roughly 1mil.
Ammo stores are worth roughly 2-3mil.
PT would be roughly worth 2-3mil aswell.

When I thought of this thread it wasn't solely because I personally want to buy a business but because I had people asking me if it was legal and I said no, which I think why the hell is it illegal?

Scoper 07-30-2014 11:57 PM

eh, still hold my opinion. you're welcome to yours, though

also personally, been doing my best to give out good bonuses each time we do well. Couple people last week made some craaaazy money for not a lot of work

https://docs.google.com/a/mail.gvsu....gid=1498412203

Godzilla 07-31-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1729284)
eh, still hold my opinion. you're welcome to yours, though

also personally, been doing my best to give out good bonuses each time we do well. Couple people last week made some craaaazy money for not a lot of work

https://docs.google.com/a/mail.gvsu....gid=1498412203

Yeah, some stores offer bonuses and others are just plain lazy, log on once a week, do pay, take money from safe and log off again.

It's the same cycle over and over.

I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of the current mentality of; "We will just over look everything how it is, never change anything or do anything to benefit the player base or everyone as a whole." People have quit because of it.

We're running low on players, we need to start making them happy, you're not forced to sell your business, you don't have to sell it but people who don't have a business want one and the people with a business want money.

It's just how it is, put restrictions on it, throw out a sheet and have Katbot watch over every "buy out" and let's start getting the show on the road.

Rave_J 08-01-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1729287)
Yeah, some stores offer bonuses and others are just plain lazy, log on once a week, do pay, take money from safe and log off again.

It's the same cycle over and over.

I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of the current mentality of; "We will just over look everything how it is, never change anything or do anything to benefit the player base or everyone as a whole." People have quit because of it.

We're running low on players, we need to start making them happy, you're not forced to sell your business, you don't have to sell it but people who don't have a business want one and the people with a business want money.

It's just how it is, put restrictions on it, throw out a sheet and have Katbot watch over every "buy out" and let's start getting the show on the road.

Quit crying !
Your not even worthy enough to get a business, So Quit crying over your own interest and trying to change everything for your gain. I am tired of hearing it

Godzilla 08-01-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1729437)
Quit crying !
Your not even worthy enough to get a business, So Quit crying over your own interest and trying to change everything for your gain. I am tired of hearing it

You get nothing but bad rep every time you post, quit posting already if you're going to be so close-minded and awful at thinking of progression.

Rave_J 08-01-2014 03:49 PM

... I cant believe you just compare this to rep. Dude rep on forums was like 2002 to 2004.


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