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ilovegirlzz 04-28-2013 08:57 PM

LMFAOOO Godzilla in the cut at the beach got me crying

Supaman771 04-28-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1717085)
It doesn't log every single person

This.

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1717086)
I believe it was also adjusted for that stupid typewriter.

Not.

Last I checked all chat logging was off though, it's pretty pointless.

cbk1994 04-28-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717080)
Therefore any ban due to the use of the "n word" or other "harassing words" is invalid.

This was never the intention of the optional swear filter, and I doubt that's the current rule. Harassment is still against both the Graal ToS and Era's rules (unless they've changed them to permit harassment, which I doubt).

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1717083)
That would most likely cause alot of lag, since so many people tend to talk, and the addition of the typerwriter, would log every letter spelled out. So we will have this large file that no one wants to sift through.

So yah, never saw a chat logger. There weren't even PM loggers, as far as mass messages go.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and should stop talking. Not only are there chat loggers on Era (which cause no lag, why would you even think they would...?), but mass messages are also logged. For a while they even logged everybody's chat routinely, although they'd stopped doing that by the time I left.

WillaWonka 04-29-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1717096)
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and should stop talking. Not only are there chat loggers on Era (which cause no lag, why would you even think they would...?), but mass messages are also logged. For a while they even logged everybody's chat routinely, although they'd stopped doing that by the time I left.

Ya, I said that they didn't log messages, as far as mass messages go, as in, mass messages were the only things being logged, as far as logging messages go.

And when i had opened up the files system in the RC, it would proceed with a 20 second lag before finally opening up, and it seemed it had affected other players also at times. So when i say lag, that's what i mean, there will be more things to load, so if i were to try and open the log history it would be a damn long time, at least just for me, to get everything loaded.

Just like when you try and download and open up some other player's files with a ton of stuff on it, it takes a long time to complete the process.

Godzilla 04-29-2013 02:00 AM

There is actually chat logs on certain players (Not all) that we use extensively throughout serious investigations and in some cases have actually helped us solve/resolve the case.

Also, you guys completely went off topic, you're all suppose to be telling me about how awesome my video is and how scary I am, geeze guys.

BlueMelon 04-29-2013 02:42 AM

godzilla makes me scared, I haven't logged on RC for a few days now because he scares me

-HateD- 04-29-2013 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1717096)
This was never the intention of the optional swear filter, and I doubt that's the current rule. Harassment is still against both the Graal ToS and Era's rules (unless they've changed them to permit harassment, which I doubt).

If that's not the intention then why have the disclaimer that kind of says "you're turning this off don't qq if someone says **** you"?
I can say the n word and not harass anyone. Not a very hard thing to do honestly.

Fidel Castro 04-29-2013 03:53 AM

Hey guys! Just saw this and would like to address a few points:

1) The attack on Godzilla's reputation is unwarranted and unappreciated. He has been playing Era for a number of years, and each year, as you would expect, he has grown a bit older and as I've personally noticed, a bit wiser. He made some bad decisions in the past, but if you were to look at him more recently there is nothing substantial enough that would stop him from becoming staff. Just because someone has made past mistakes does not mean that they can learn from those mistakes, act on what they have learned, and mature. I am very satisfied with how he has handled the PR team since he has been appointed to PRA and trust his judgement in situations where he is needed.

2) I can see the arguments for and against stealth. Chat loggers can be effective in monitoring player activity, but they do not necessarily paint the whole picture of particular situations. They do not log nicknames at the present time, other players around that could be joining in a harassing situation -- basically environmental factors that are harder to determine based off of merely a chat log. Stealth mode provides PRs the opportunity to put themselves in situations where players think they cannot be reprimanded (due to no PRs being around) and catch those players that may be acting in an inappropriate manner. In some cases, this can be fully logged in a chat logger, but in others, which I've experienced first hand as a PR, PRA, and now Co-Manager, they cannot.

So while I can understand your argument, stealth mode really does not cause any harm to the players, more so keep them safe. I don't see any major drawbacks of PRs having stealth mode. It is heavily regulated and any staff caught abusing it usually lose the privilege if the circumstances lend themselves.

ANYWAY. Obviously the video was meant to be satirical. I thought it was very funny.

Scoper 04-29-2013 03:58 AM

What if those of us just didn't play the server let it be ran its own way.
**** right dis is graw my b
From personal experience..it's one of the most valuable assets, if not the most valuable, that you could have as a PR. Hearing the words of another player or reading a blank wall of chat without context can give bad results.
YOU NEED TO BE SURE

-HateD- 04-29-2013 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidel Castro (Post 1717106)

2) I can see the arguments for and against stealth. Chat loggers can be effective in monitoring player activity, but they do not necessarily paint the whole picture of particular situations. They do not log nicknames at the present time, other players around that could be joining in a harassing situation -- basically environmental factors that are harder to determine based off of merely a chat log. Stealth mode provides PRs the opportunity to put themselves in situations where players think they cannot be reprimanded (due to no PRs being around) and catch those players that may be acting in an inappropriate manner. In some cases, this can be fully logged in a chat logger, but in others, which I've experienced first hand as a PR, PRA, and now Co-Manager, they cannot.

What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?

Fidel Castro 04-29-2013 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717109)
What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?

If the victim of abuse reported this in said situation the PRA or an administrator would look into this further. Hopefully in doing that we could sort out what really happened, reprimand the staff member, and do our best to rectify the situation with the victim.

No system is entirely perfect, being a staff member alone you are put in situations in which you must use your best judgement and avoid situations in which favoritism could be a factor. Unfortunately, this does not always happen -- not only on Era, but on every playerworld. That being said, we do our best to ensure that everyone encounters a fair play experience and to regulate our staff members. There have been situations in the past where we have caught this and the staff member was seriously reprimanded.

Godzilla 04-29-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717109)
What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?

I've set up a way for that to not be the case (anymore/if ever).

WillaWonka 04-29-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1717112)
I've set up a way for that to not be the case (anymore/if ever).

I remember why PRs are to be watched by two other PRs during betspars against other players now.

Frankie 05-02-2013 12:14 AM

the real reason for stealth mode is to spy on me while I'm changing :*

TSAdmin 05-02-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1717258)
the real reason for stealth mode is to spy on me while I'm changing :*

Of course :D

Elk 05-02-2013 01:53 AM

During the cold war, stealth was used by me and Skyld so we could see each other and sneak out of our bases... they would have never accepted 2 homosexual enemy soldiers making love...

NicoX 05-02-2013 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1717266)
During the cold war, stealth was used by me and Skyld so we could see each other and sneak out of our bases... they would have never accepted 2 homosexual enemy soldiers making love...

Wat

Dragon551 05-02-2013 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1717266)
During the cold war, stealth was used by me and Skyld so we could see each other and sneak out of our bases... they would have never accepted 2 homosexual enemy soldiers making love...

But.... But Skyler would sneak out with me..

Tim_Rocks 05-02-2013 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1717269)
Wat

Someone sounds jealous.

link97 05-05-2013 03:08 AM

You're not funny Zilla oh man is this slander against you oh no!


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