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kia345 10-21-2012 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1706211)
only Server which could be worth paying Gold would be Graal Kingdoms, but even this Server is dead at the moment.

This is incredibly stupid. GK is dead because it was a lackluster server, with poor mechanics, a series of uncaring managers, no direction on either the player or development level, and "gameplay" centered entirely around the economy, which was largely influenced by legal USDing and cross server trading. If GK even at its best is the Graal's flagship money maker, then we've long since sunk.

Era (or Zone) definitely resemble games that could be advertised and turn a profit. It actually looks like something that would stand out. To a lesser extent, Zodiac (which actually brings to the table tradition MMO elements beyond "selling things", unlike GK). 2D-MMORPG would certainly catch a few fish. GK is a glorified stockmarket/chatroom.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1706214)
This is incredibly stupid. GK is dead because it was a lackluster server, with poor mechanics, a series of uncaring managers, no direction on either the player or development level, and "gameplay" centered entirely around the economy, which was largely influenced by legal USDing and cross server trading. If GK even at its best is the Graal's flagship money maker, then we've long since sunk.

Era (or Zone) definitely resemble games that could be advertised and turn a profit. It actually looks like something that would stand out. To a lesser extent, Zodiac (which actually brings to the table tradition MMO elements beyond "selling things", unlike GK). 2D-MMORPG would certainly catch a few fish. GK is a glorified stockmarket/chatroom.

God damn I want to give you a reward for this intelligent retort, but you just won't take my rep anymore :C
Just going to say every single thing and I mean every single thing you said is completely unable to be properly argued against head on, therefore, major respect.

Supaman771 10-21-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1706214)
catch ... fish

Oh pooj.
>_<

Crow 10-21-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1706190)
and @crow, read the damn thread, he's PSA now

I don't even know what the heck you're talking about now. Could you please stop pulling things out of thin air and talking out of context, you stupid little ****? You're not exactly helping anyone or anything, I don't even know why I'm writing this, since you'll find another crappy answer to it anyway. Wohoo~

Measuring server success using player numbers is also essentially worthless. Era has a rather high number of players these days. Used to be lower. Also used to be higher, but that was back when Graal had more players all together.
http://statistics.graal.us/server/gr...onth&server=36

BlueMelon 10-21-2012 04:19 PM

A good move would be to combine iZone with PC Zone, make it seem that if you play it from your computer you get a advantage (which is probably true with the use of the keyboard). Get the PC playercount back up and make the PC Zone users coming from iphone, explore the other servers.
Combining iEra with PC era, I don't think that will work out... Both servers are pretty much completely different now.

dude2020 10-21-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1706224)
A good move would be to combine iZone with PC Zone, make it seem that if you play it from your computer you get a advantage (which is probably true with the use of the keyboard). Get the PC playercount back up and make the PC Zone users coming from iphone, explore the other servers.
Combining iEra with PC era, I don't think that will work out... Both servers are pretty much completely different now.

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no nononononononononononononononononono



no

kia345 10-21-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1706226)
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no nononononononononononononononononono



no

The only actual downsides to that idea is that it doesn't address the current state of PC Zone/Graal (although "it needs fixing" was probably a given), and it places emphasis on getting iPhone players to PC, which hardly seems like a priority (ideal for us, but I can't imagine that being the stance Stefan would take - if anything he'd back the reverse). But the idea of combining them should've been in place from the start. Having two separate games on similar markets competing with each other is ridiculous.


I like the clever thought you put into your response though. A long series of "no" certainly illustrates the tangible and constructive reasons that you have opposing such a merger.

WillaWonka 10-21-2012 05:54 PM

iZone? They have one of those?

BlueMelon 10-21-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1706228)
iZone? They have one of those?

Its a work in progress

dude2020 10-21-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1706227)
The only actual downsides to that idea is that it doesn't address the current state of PC Zone/Graal (although "it needs fixing" was probably a given), and it places emphasis on getting iPhone players to PC, which hardly seems like a priority (ideal for us, but I can't imagine that being the stance Stefan would take - if anything he'd back the reverse). But the idea of combining them should've been in place from the start. Having two separate games on similar markets competing with each other is ridiculous.


I like the clever thought you put into your response though. A long series of "no" certainly illustrates the tangible and constructive reasons that you have opposing such a merger.

Stefan actually addressed it. iZone will eventually replace PC Zone, allowing PC players to connect to the iZone server. The thing that I disagree with is that iZone isn't Zone at all. It's a iEra ripoff with Shangri-La tiles with zone maps.

Thank you. :D

Crow 10-21-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1706232)
It's a iEra ripoff with Shangri-La tiles with zone maps.

So, essentially: take some leftover work from a dead guy to create something that doesn't even resemble the original in the slightest, then sell it.

Tim_Rocks 10-21-2012 10:58 PM

I've played iZone, I liked what I saw so far.

Tricxta 10-21-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1706230)
Its a work in progress

Last I heard, it was complete months ago...

WillaWonka 10-22-2012 01:02 AM

idk if i'd play

The screen is WAY to small for these i-graal games.

BlueMelon 10-22-2012 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1706235)
Last I heard, it was complete months ago...

I doubt its complete, when I went on (months ago)
It wasn't very complete looking.

fowlplay4 10-22-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1706233)
So, essentially: take some leftover work from a dead guy to create something that doesn't even resemble the original in the slightest, then sell it.

It's what he would have wanted.

Crow 10-22-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1706255)
It's what he would have wanted.

Of course.


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