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DripZ 09-20-2012 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1704091)
Cause I got reset, bro.

Most likely because of something you did so technically it's your fault.

Supaman771 09-20-2012 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704094)
Most likely because of something you did so technically it's your fault.

Support center hacked actually, bro.

DripZ 09-20-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1704095)
Support center hacked actually, bro.

Okay, so is that why you quit Gk? It's not hard to get rich like but like i said you don't really care. Knux is on like 24/7 and hes always up to gamble you can simply make bank from gambling. I don't think a reset is anywhere near a good idea if one even happens people will quit and think of all the time, effort and dedication they put into Gk. Personally to me it just seems you're jealous.

Anyways you admit your self that you don't play.

''Oh, and about the event itself I suppose...
Is there any restrictions? I suppose K.O. means something but I don't actually play so idk nothing is clear there. If I were to show up can I use a bow or what?''

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704086)
Felix like you said to me ''Whatever. Logic is clearly not going to win you over. I'm done here'' seems like you're the one struggling to understand this seen and understood logic. You have 385 hp once you're poisoned your done. Nico constantly said it's your choice to join yet you argued

Your not going to pay 5 bucks to make 25 Dollar profit Sure it's your decision.

O boy here comes dripz posting 4 page essays on nothing. Take some of dat money you put into gold sub and get yourself some of dat scroll of literacy bro

Unfortunately no logical explanation has been presented yet. I don't understand the poison comment.. Isn't that true for anyone? Trial or not?

Whatever brody. You go ahead and enjoy your 3 player server. Nerdy ass broson

DripZ 09-20-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704102)
O boy here comes dripz posting 4 page essays on nothing. Take some of dat money you put into gold sub and get yourself some of dat scroll of literacy bro

Unfortunately no logical explanation has been presented yet. I don't understand the poison comment.. Isn't that true for anyone? Trial or not?

Whatever brody. You go ahead and enjoy your 3 player server. Nerdy ass broson

Oh i should go get gold sub? You're then one who said some people cant afford gold sub and the only person who probably can't is clearly your poor ass.

It doesn't need to be a explanation rofl. Please explain to me how it's the same trial or not
Trials cannot poison people who are gold.
Gold can poison.
Everything is capped at 10 for trials so they're holy possession sucks? Hard posion = GG

Please. My nerdy ass you're the one who has played Graal for at least 7 years fool and probably still game until now. I'll enjoy the server and expect you to not be on once occasions come ''son''

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704120)
Oh i should go get gold sub? You're then one who said some people cant afford gold sub and the only person who probably can't is clearly your poor ass.

It doesn't need to be a explanation rofl. Please explain to me how it's the same trial or not
Trials cannot poison people who are gold.
Gold can poison.
Everything is capped at 10 for trials so they're holy possession sucks? Hard posion = GG

Please. My nerdy ass you're the one who has played Graal for at least 7 years fool and probably still game until now. I'll enjoy the server and expect you to not be on once occasions come ''son''

i shold get and gold sub? ur one who said some cant even HARD POISON rofl please explain how is the same for a kid or man? everything has stat of 50 as trial so holy possessed is not = the same as an explained rooster,.

Please. call my number nerd the graal of 9 years is explained in the last episode HARD POISON rofl.


thats wat you sound like brody

DripZ 09-20-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704127)
i shold get and gold sub? ur one who said some cant even HARD POISON rofl please explain how is the same for a kid or man? everything has stat of 50 as trial so holy possessed is not = the same as an explained rooster,.

Please. call my number nerd the graal of 9 years is explained in the last episode HARD POISON rofl.


thats wat you sound like brody

When did i say some cant even hard poison? Learn to read please. What your saying makes completely no sense. Maybe you've been away from Gk for so long your forgetting what the cap is as a trial.
If your over 11 as gold once you become trial it's going to be 10. The same thing happen's to your wisdom, magic etc.

Oh 9 years which makes you more of a nerd sweet. The episode which made no sense coming from someone who's definitely dropped out from school.

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 09:46 PM

wow dat joke went over yer head...

Just to set things straight there is no hard/soft mechanic for poison. You apply poison or not and the potency of the poison is just a dice roll...

As for holy possession the only thing that scales with wisdom level is its duration and level 10 wis holy poss lasts long enough for a spar (NOTE THAT THE STRENGTH OF HOLY POSSESSION IS STATIC AND DOESN'T SCALE WITH YOUR LEVEL). Phys level isn't affected by the cap so there's no issue there.

Are you going to read my post this time or are you just going to post something about nerds and hard poison again?

DripZ 09-20-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704137)
wow dat joke went over yer head...

Just to set things straight there is no hard/soft mechanic for poison. You apply poison or not and the potency of the poison is just a dice roll...

As for holy possession the only thing that scales with wisdom level is its duration and level 10 wis holy poss lasts long enough for a spar (NOTE THAT THE STRENGTH OF HOLY POSSESSION IS STATIC AND DOESN'T SCALE WITH YOUR LEVEL). Phys level isn't affected by the cap so there's no issue there.

Are you going to read my post this time or are you just going to post something about nerds and hard poison again?

There is hard/soft mechanic
Holy possession makes poison weaker
Without holy possession makes the poison more effective

10 Wisdom does not last a spar if you're so sure it does i'd like to see you show up on Sunday? and there's still advantages for gold? Not being able to get poisoned. Poison is what changes the spar right around. Happy?

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704139)
10 Wisdom does not last a spar if you're so sure it does i'd like to see you show up on Sunday? and there's still advantages for gold? Not being able to get poisoned. Poison is what changes the spar right around. Happy?

That's what I've been arguing for this entire thread......... for trials to be allowed to participate..... despite being at a disadvantage... did you read anything that's been posted in this thread at all?

And I don't think you understand hard and soft limits brody. It can't be applied to poison really... Whatever.

DripZ 09-20-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704142)
That's what I've been arguing for this entire thread......... for trials to be allowed to participate..... despite being at a disadvantage... did you read anything that's been posted in this thread at all?

And I don't think you understand hard and soft limits brody. It can't be applied to poison really... Whatever.

This is what you said: ''I have 385 hp with the trial level 10 cap. There are gold members who have less hp than this yet this isn't considered a balance issue? I don't see where you're going with this balance argument because it's not making any sense bro''

I don't care if trials can participate but it wouldn't really make a difference same person will still win trials cant really dish in damage because people easily regen in spar BUT when poisoned you cant really even if you pray.

Seriously i might need to say this is a slightly different way.

IF you do not have a holy possession the poison (you receive) will be far more effective no matter who it comes from.

When you have a holy possession it wont be as effective (still effective but your stats don't get lowered as much when having a holy possession you only lose 3,3,3)

When you do not have a holy possession a poison can be 5,8,4 random but stronger.

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704143)
This is what you said: ''I have 385 hp with the trial level 10 cap. There are gold members who have less hp than this yet this isn't considered a balance issue? I don't see where you're going with this balance argument because it's not making any sense bro''

I don't care if trials can participate but it wouldn't really make a difference same person will still win trials cant really dish in damage because people easily regen in spar BUT when poisoned you cant really even if you pray.

I can't even decipher this sentence.


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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704143)

IF you do not have a holy possession the poison (you receive) will be far more effective no matter who it comes from.

When you have a holy possession it wont be as effective (still effective but your stats don't get lowered as much when having a holy possession you only lose 3,3,3)

When you do not have a holy possession a poison can be 5,8,4 random but stronger.

It really isn't as simple as holy pos = 3 3 3 and non holy pos = random number. Also there are ways to bypass resists pretty easily and almost always apply 10 10 10 poisons. Only a few people know about it and hopefully these people haven't spread that **** around. Not that it matters with dat playercount :cool:

Seeya 09-20-2012 10:33 PM

In the end, it's idiotic not to allow trials to participate. You don't want playercount? they're at a disadvantage enough.

There's much more serious problems to attend to, I'd agree with a full server reset (after specific changes) and I'm in the top ~#20 of experience and even higher in wealth in the game.

DripZ 09-20-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704145)
I can't even decipher this sentence.



It really isn't as simple as holy pos = 3 3 3 and non holy pos = random number. Also there are ways to bypass resists pretty easily and almost always apply 10 10 10 poisons. Only a few people know about it and hopefully these people haven't spread that **** around. Not that it matters with dat playercount :cool:

Why can't you is it worded in such a way you don't understand or something?

Really I've seen you fight a lot of times but i haven't seen this bypass way you speak of mind sharing since it shouldn't matter right because of the player count? :cool:

Felix_Xenophobe 09-20-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DripZ (Post 1704147)
Why can't you is it worded in such a way you don't understand or something?

Bingo.


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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1704146)
In the end, it's idiotic not to allow trials to participate. You don't want playercount? they're at a disadvantage enough.
There's much more serious problems to attend to, I'd agree with a full server reset (after specific changes) and I'm in the top ~#20 of experience and even higher in wealth in the game.

There is no item progression/distribution outside events. A reset would lead exactly to where we are today, minus a large portion of the items we have to play around with today.

NicoX 09-20-2012 11:43 PM

1) A Server reset wont help, get that in ur head finally. You will just make all the oldbies quit, but how are you sure new people will join GK? You dont think at the worst case scenario.

2) I dont even know why you people are arguing. I didnt read all of the stupid posts. My Event. My Rules. You want an event which lets trials participate and such? Fine, donate some items and do it, dont be the jackass who is always complaining but doing nothing. You are really annoying Felix, seriously. Im fine with ur questions and critism, but not with your foolish and offensive posts on my Thread. I guess you think this is the Graalians Forum where people thinks you are cool.

3) At the moment there is not much to do on GK, I can just get ahold of Tig rarely to get some updates going on GK, so Im trying to do it with EVents. Like I mentioned before, THIS Event is only for Gold-Members. If you want to join upgrade, if not leave it. I dont really care. If we cant hit the 16, I will also start it with 10 or 12.

Next bashing or flaming on this Forum will be reported, and if you participate on my Event, also get kicked out of it.
I dont care cancelling the Event though, I dont mind keeping that items. So stop it right now.

Felix_Xenophobe 09-21-2012 07:39 AM

How many people have signed up now?

Supaman771 09-21-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1704151)
Wall of Numbered Text

Honestly, all I ever see you post is 'QQ this is my thread go away #nologiczone'.

But for reals, no one even answers a legitimate question regarding the event...

"What are the rules?"

Can I use a bow?
Holy possession? Praying? Scrolls?
Wands? Casting? Running?
# of participants? How will the opponents be matched?

Seriously, unless I'm blind all it says is Spar for RoW & etc.
All I want is some clarification before I show up with 50 resistance scrolls and a Bow and kite you noobs in hour long matches for epic lulz. Cause it'll cost me 300 gelats to do so.
!pissed!

@Kale: Agreed.

NicoX 09-21-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1704165)
Honestly, all I ever see you post is 'QQ this is my thread go away #nologiczone'.

But for reals, no one even answers a legitimate question regarding the event...

"What are the rules?"

Can I use a bow?
Holy possession? Praying? Scrolls?
Wands? Casting? Running?
# of participants? How will the opponents be matched?

Seriously, unless I'm blind all it says is Spar for RoW & etc.
All I want is some clarification before I show up with 50 resistance scrolls and a Bow and kite you noobs in hour long matches for epic lulz. Cause it'll cost me 300 gelats to do so.
!pissed!

@Kale: Agreed.

K.O. System, Always 1vs1 and so on. There will be also a fight for the 3rd place.
Classic melee tournement, Holy P is ok and using scrolls before the Event Im fine with. Not during the Event of course, also no Mana Leafs or something which could recover your HP.
No Magic, No Bows, No Crossbows.
Running is fine, but to much is not.

@ Felix:
11

Felix_Xenophobe 09-21-2012 02:46 PM

So basically prior to every spar the fighters will be allowed to leave for holy p and scroll popping/kvasir popping?

Would be interesting to see some non holy pos/non poison spars in the future. I remember Sean hosted a few of those a while back and they were a lot of fun. It definitely helps bridge the gap between mid-tier geared players and the 33 33 3X ballers.

NicoX 09-21-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704176)
So basically prior to every spar the fighters will be allowed to leave for holy p and scroll popping/kvasir popping?

Would be interesting to see some non holy pos/non poison spars in the future. I remember Sean hosted a few of those a while back and they were a lot of fun. It definitely helps bridge the gap between mid-tier geared players and the 33 33 3X ballers.

Good Idea. No Holy P sounds fun. We will do that. But how to check if people didnt use it at all? Should wait 10-15 minutes in the Dojo before starting?

Felix_Xenophobe 09-21-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1704177)
Good Idea. No Holy P sounds fun. We will do that. But how to check if people didnt use it at all? Should wait 10-15 minutes in the Dojo before starting?

No holy p is mostly to avoid ogma's poison/dian's blind. The real kicker is no poison. If one player gets poisoned it's pretty clear someone is cheating. Too bad there's no disabling poison/blind in the EM tool.

NicoX 09-21-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704179)
No holy p is mostly to avoid ogma's poison/dian's blind. The real kicker is no poison. If one player gets poisoned it's pretty clear someone is cheating. Too bad there's no disabling poison/blind in the EM tool.

I will figure something out.

Seeya 09-21-2012 08:14 PM

I proposed a few idea's I'd still like worked on; revamp of battle admin, dice win/loss ratio, this already exists but is not in use; and last but certainly not least, seeing it's nearly finished, a kingdom revamp

NicoX 09-22-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1704190)
I proposed a few idea's I'd still like worked on; revamp of battle admin, dice win/loss ratio, this already exists but is not in use; and last but certainly not least, seeing it's nearly finished, a kingdom revamp

About the Battle Admin I agree, it would be fun with more options to chose during an event.
win/loss ratio is useless.
and the Kingdom revamp, I honestly think its useless at the moment with such playercount.

Vartas 09-23-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1704165)
Can I use a bow?
Holy possession? Praying? Scrolls?
Wands? Casting? Running?
# of participants? How will the opponents be matched?

Um, maybe there will be specific spars for choosen PvP fights,
like Bows, magic spar, and melle?

NicoX 09-23-2012 05:48 PM

4 Hours left! I hope all Players can do it by time!

Felix_Xenophobe 09-23-2012 11:34 PM

How did it go?

NicoX 09-24-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1704322)
How did it go?

Only 3-4 people online, cancelled. 12 told me they would join. Well I will keep that items then

Felix_Xenophobe 09-24-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1704332)
Only 3-4 people online, cancelled. 12 told me they would join. Well I will keep that items then

That sucks. Hopefully more people show up next time.

Fulg0reSama 09-24-2012 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1704332)
Only 3-4 people online, cancelled. 12 told me they would join. Well I will keep that items then

Predictable :asleep:

NicoX 09-24-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1704354)
Predictable :asleep:

Not really. 12 people just applied for the tourney, but didnt appear. Well I dont mind keeping the items though.
I hope Tig will be active in the next few days to finish some things finally.

Fulg0reSama 09-24-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1704361)
Not really. 12 people just applied for the tourney, but didnt appear. Well I dont mind keeping the items though.
I hope Tig will be active in the next few days to finish some things finally.

You must not have hosted too many tournaments before then, it's pretty likely to have a couple fall out on you with an extended time for application for said tournaments.


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