I think if we're adding new instances it should be made so everyone can enjoy them. Easy mode and hard mode maybe?

Also RoWs really need to drop from some sort of dungeon. Imo they are the key items to be able to compete in both pvp and pve. Same goes for RoE even if they play as big of a role in a mage set.

And @nico ctf would be awesome


Edit: if people are stingy about rows dropping we could probably design a new ring in a tier between ros and row. 3 str 3dex 1 or 2 con and a bit harsher resistance penalties

I'd like to agree, but there's plenty of RoW's. If there were more players I'd agree but Drk has 16+ rows. Besides that, if there was ALWAYS someone farming every shop for RoW's like in the past we'd see a very stable RoW supply without any dungeon dropping them.

RoS's are very similar, let's not break the way RoW's have always been released.

See edit. Getting out from the low/mid gear tier and breaking into end game equipment is too hard. It's possible through years of trading but it's 2012 and people want an easy entry level and be able to pick up their stuff fast. This is why Zodiac has had such success.

would be incredibly interesting to see something like a "random" ring drop like they do in the shops. Possibilities to see (AT BEST, 0.01% chance to get a perfect ring) +4 str +4 dex +4 con +7 speed and no negative resists.

so, you'd finally get to the end, everyone gets a reward, WOOT I got a str4 dex2 con4 speed 3 ring!!! it's epic it's perfect for my build!!

would break the problem of RoW's being disfigured, as they're the perfect standard ring and heavily available. A lot of new nice rings would be added, 90% of them being worse than a RoW anyway.

1 out of every 10k chance? with ~20-30 players?

seems fair to me.

Create a dungeon where monsters drop parts to make items? The items could be decent; mid tier to top tier. If creating a ice dungeon-style maybe have certain monsters spawn on a floor that have a certain chance of appearing? could have floors that have veins of of a precious metal that's used to create some of the items? Maybe have a dungeon that drops item that has suffixes n prefixes added to their names. farm for the best prefixed-item lol. I liked how christmas tokens became permanent...I personally would like to see more instances of them so there can be items that requires both the ice tokens and some other form of drops to create. gives players something to do.

I would def spawm them

that would be to get the utmost perfect ring.

i'd love to see an AWESOME ring come out like 4 str, 4 con, 4 dex, 3 speed, -75 magic resist. This could only be a 1/1000 chance

it'd just be awesome to see a system that'd balance that kind of stuff out.

I think the ideas of the dungeon called colosseum and the ctf map would be great but that would really be like copying zodiac.

Id say make something different that people would like.
Here are some ideas i have:

- A events day each month with good rewards so that people keep playing every month.
- Something like kingdom core but instead of going to attack other kingdoms make a king of the hill event.
- New medium lvl monsters (ogres, goblins, fairys) that drop weps not for pvp but for pve so that game doesnt really consist in geting gear for fighting others but also geting gear to fight other monsters like hard bosses with weakneses and resistances.
- Something like raiding another kingdom's castle and stealing stuff from them.

Ahh, does Zodiac have a Colosseum? I don't play there. I really just got the idea from every basic RPG I've ever played on the PSX console. Colosseum's were always my favorite part of the game-play haha :p.

it wouldnt be copying zodiac wtf...

I think he means "CTF" is copying Zodiac, Zodiac is just the first server to do it right... all the other servers had their shot at it.

I think GK could do CTF just as well if not better.

zodiacs ctf is horrible...

the concept that it's not just hosted on occasion and it's an activity players can always do and strive towards high level goals

I would like to see this http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134263686 with a little mix of this http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134263577.

sounds great!

Not big enough playerbase to do something like that.

Double post like boss.

I think people get their priorities a little mixed up. GK is a dying server and no end game updates are gonna bring it back to life. We need fresh blood to get our **** back up and running.

A quest log and actual quests would help out a ****load. And decent quest rewards and exp so people still leveling know what the hell they are doing. Give **** a sense of direction. They don't even have to be original or fun quests (see zodiac, wow, any other rpg). KILL 10 SHELL BOMIES, RETURN TO ME FOR A COOL AXE would at least send people on their way to the next tier of monsters.

Combine that with new dungeons that scale with player levels. Content for everyone. Honestly that's the only thing that could possibly bring GK back to where it once was.

That in combination with removing the gold subscription requirement? Boss hogg tier right there.

I would love to see some quests like that. Would give me a different way of making platinum coins rather than making dusts.

This. Lack of a "sense of direction" is possibly the highest complaint among new players.

yeah you are right D:

Even though your an a-hole to me for no valid reason, you make an excellent point :P we definitely need a sense of direction in GK. Most newbies quit within the first few minutes because they are stuck with the crappy starting gear. As for the gold subscription, seeing as how the server has AIDs and is slowly dying, it definitely should be removed as well :p

Alright guys, I'm going to review some of the better suggestions and try to piece some ideas together. Once I have a clear idea of how this can all mash up I'll post some stuff for your review.

Thanks for the great input and expect more open discussions in the coming months. :)