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Cubical 02-27-2012 11:59 PM

10-15% of the sale would be better imo and limit the time you can rent one to 24 hours

Tim_Rocks 02-28-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1686234)
10-15% of the sale would be better imo and limit the time you can rent one to 24 hours

So you're saying you'd rather pay $150k, rather than 30k for a week? Interesting.

Demisis_P2P 02-28-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1686234)
10-15% of the sale would be better imo and limit the time you can rent one to 24 hours

24 hours is too short.
The longer items can be posted for the more chance that multiple of the same item will be for sale at the same time which drives price competition.

$30,000+ for 7 days is way too expensivo though, and would make it not worth while to sell a whole bunch of mid-tier items that people are still just going to stand around massing for.

Tim_Rocks 02-28-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1686237)
24 hours is too short.
The longer items can be posted for the more chance that multiple of the same item will be for sale at the same time which drives price competition.

$30,000+ for 7 days is way too expensivo though, and would make it not worth while to sell a whole bunch of mid-tier items that people are still just going to stand around massing for.

Good point, I was thinking of doing something along the lines of the more hours/days you go, the cheaper it is. Plus I think taxing each item would be awful, no one would use the mall if they knew they were going to lose $150k on a 1mil sale. Tk would rage so hard.

Demisis_P2P 02-28-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1686238)
Good point, I was thinking of doing something along the lines of the more hours/days you go, the cheaper it is. Plus I think taxing each item would be awful, no one would use the mall if they knew they were going to lose $150k on a 1mil sale. Tk would rage so hard.

1mil items are probably such an exclusive market (i.e. everyone knows who has these items an any time) that those players wouldn't need to rely on the mall anyway.
If somebody wanted to buy his gun they'd contact him about it without him even having to offer it for sale. They're also very unlikely to sold in a pure cash transaction and more likely to be traded.

The mall will likely be used by people trying to sell mid-tier upgrade items. That is, items that they've just replaced with something better and don't use anymore but are still worth enough to sell. eg. M4, PPSH, Deagles, MP40, etc. Which are the most likely to be sold in pure cash transactions.
Items which would benefit from only being charged 10% of sale rather than 30k for the week.

Supaman771 02-28-2012 01:15 AM

Start off with 200$ per hours
Then go to like 3k per days
Up to 15k per weeks
50k for a month (you did say on the unofficial forums you were gonna do a month max?)

Then people in each sect of era society can get it what they desire. And buying in bulk time saves you money.
Something along these lines.

Could always add cheaper or free stands section/room that people can rent for like 15 minutes at a time that instead charge a tax percentage on sales.

bloodykiller 02-28-2012 05:09 PM

wowowow wtf this is bs, u should work on a % on the pproduct sold (something like 1% goes to taxes)

papajchris 02-28-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1686292)
wowowow wtf this is bs, u should work on a % on the pproduct sold (something like 1% goes to taxes)

Wow your idea is even stupider, this is bs!! if it only charged a percentage, people would just put stuff in the stalls and when they find a buyer, take it out of the stall and sell it. thus paying no fee. I also would imagine nubs like yourself would disperse your items to multiple accounts and rent all the stands because there is no upfront fee..

Dragon551 02-28-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1686301)
Wow your idea is even stupider, this is bs!! if it only charged a percentage, people would just put stuff in the stalls and when they find a buyer, take it out of the stall and sell it. thus paying no fee. I also would imagine nubs like yourself would disperse your items to multiple accounts and rent all the stands because there is no upfront fee..

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...IORyOoGYngTgNN

bloodykiller 02-29-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1686301)
Wow your idea is even stupider, this is bs!! if it only charged a percentage, people would just put stuff in the stalls and when they find a buyer, take it out of the stall and sell it. thus paying no fee. I also would imagine nubs like yourself would disperse your items to multiple accounts and rent all the stands because there is no upfront fee..

u uncovered my diabolic plan oh no

Tim_Rocks 02-29-2012 09:55 AM

Here's an update of Era Mall.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2u4tz5f.png

Andre2006 02-29-2012 01:59 PM

The only thing I personally don't like is the dark tiles, where are the happy thoughts? and the glass effect over the items.

bloodykiller 02-29-2012 04:20 PM

what's the point of having the mall when u can mass for free?

Tim_Rocks 02-29-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1686423)
what's the point of having the mall when u can mass for free?

It's all about personal preference. If I wanted to take a break from Graal for a week, I can purchase a little mall stand, sell my items and come back at the end of the week and BAM, I just sold five items and I wasn't even online.

Cubical 02-29-2012 04:44 PM

On maloria it was much easier just to put your items in the trade house and sell it. A lot of people turn off masses so it will expose you're sale to all those people that you initially would have made contact with

bloodykiller 02-29-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1686426)
It's all about personal preference. If I wanted to take a break from Graal for a week, I can purchase a little mall stand, sell my items and come back at the end of the week and BAM, I just sold five items and I wasn't even online.

oh i didnt realise u could also have ur stand when ur offline, how much is the daily cost? and when is the opening planned?

Supaman771 02-29-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1686440)
oh i didnt realise u could also have ur stand when ur offline, how much is the daily cost? and when is the opening planned?

It's currently like 130$ per hour, 3k per day.

A full week would run you about 25k... but I personally think it would be easier to just rent 12 hours before you log off for bed/school and sell your stuff like that, only costing ~1.5k and when you're online return to massing.

bloodykiller 03-01-2012 12:23 AM

thanks
and do u buy time at start or pay when you withdraw ur items?

Supaman771 03-01-2012 12:32 AM

You rent something before you use it.

When you grab the stand it lets you set a duration for renting then charges you.
So 'at the start' more or less.

Tim_Rocks 03-01-2012 12:32 AM

The mall is finished now, gonna get started on new levels for it. And yus, tk u b payen 4 dat mall stande rite awuy.

bloodykiller 03-01-2012 01:43 AM

lol i abbreviate i dnt make words up. last question: will the money coming from rents go to the owner of the item or just to taxes?

BlueMelon 03-01-2012 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1686498)
lol i abbreviate i dnt make words up. last question: will the money coming from rents go to the owner of the item or just to taxes?

Why would it go to the owner of the item?

If you rent a stand, the money is sent away, *poof*, no one gets it.

WillaWonka 03-01-2012 02:29 AM

I'm pretty sure tk does not know what taxes are even used for. In real life.

bloodykiller 03-01-2012 02:39 AM

im not 12 like u

Tim_Rocks 03-01-2012 02:46 AM

Let's just tax the rich.

Supaman771 03-01-2012 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1686510)
Let's just tax the rich.

And give to the poor!

I only got like 20k
>_<

Tim_Rocks 03-01-2012 03:39 AM

I was thinking it should cost about $10 per bullet fired from the mp5 navy. It could be fun.

bloodykiller 03-01-2012 03:58 PM

that would mean only 1k for an uzi ammo box, u can do better than that!

Knightress 03-01-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1686411)
Here's an update of Era Mall.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2u4tz5f.png

Loving the system Tim. Definitely needed and ya did it :)

Emera 03-01-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightress (Post 1686563)
Loving the system Tim. Definitely needed and ya did it :)

Why the **** aren't I in your signature pic? Who is this other man!?

iPaul 03-02-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1685804)
I know for a fact I have my mass messages turned off. It might just be a small handful of players who do also, but I don't like to get spammed with little blue message bubbles all over my map and constantly hear that annoying message sound.

who are u

BlueMelon 03-02-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iPaul (Post 1686592)
who are u

Who are you?

bloodykiller 03-03-2012 02:36 AM

wtf u dont know ipaul?

TSAdmin 03-03-2012 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1686301)
Wow your idea is even stupider, this is bs!! if it only charged a percentage, people would just put stuff in the stalls and when they find a buyer, take it out of the stall and sell it. thus paying no fee. I also would imagine nubs like yourself would disperse your items to multiple accounts and rent all the stands because there is no upfront fee..

If the Mall actually works, unlike it has done in the past so many attempts, then the trade system should be scrapped. It forces people into a secure environment where their items are on display, not just alluded to in a PM/Mass.

cbk1994 03-03-2012 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1686673)
If the Mall actually works, unlike it has done in the past so many attempts, then the trade system should be scrapped. It forces people into a secure environment where their items are on display, not just alluded to in a PM/Mass.

What if I want to trade a gun for a gun instead of money for a gun?

Fulg0reSama 03-03-2012 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1686678)
What if I want to trade a gun for a gun instead of money for a gun?

Couldn't that be cleared up by allowing an offer box for items (specific or otherwise)?

Example: cbk1994 wants to sell... AP4 (whatever this means)

papajchris decides he wants to trade an item for it, he decides to trade a Neo Rifle (No idea if this is an equal trade)

You'd be prompted about it in some form of GUI from your stand (or whatever makes it simple), You'd read his offer and then have the ability to Accept, Decline or let it stay for the duration of the stand's lifespan.

cbk1994 decides he wants to take the trade, incase of such event that papajchris wants to, let's say offer his Neo Rifle towards another few stands as means to try to get rid of it, it would clear away his offer from any other booth.

Of course this is just a rough idea, feel free to filter and process to Era's needs and such.

Tim_Rocks 03-03-2012 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1686680)
Couldn't that be cleared up by allowing an offer box for items (specific or otherwise)?

Example: cbk1994 wants to sell... AP4 (whatever this means)

papajchris decides he wants to trade an item for it, he decides to trade a Neo Rifle (No idea if this is an equal trade)

You'd be prompted about it in some form of GUI from your stand (or whatever makes it simple), You'd read his offer and then have the ability to Accept, Decline or let it stay for the duration of the stand's lifespan.

cbk1994 decides he wants to take the trade, incase of such event that papajchris wants to, let's say offer his Neo Rifle towards another few stands as means to try to get rid of it, it would clear away his offer from any other booth.

Of course this is just a rough idea, feel free to filter and process to Era's needs and such.

I'd like to see something like that, Era Mall v2 FTW?

I'm also going to make it so you no longer by in bulk, making a lot more like regular shops.

natchez416 03-03-2012 06:38 PM

I agree with TSAdmin. If the mall works well I'd be 100% in favor of scrapping Itemtrade.

Looks like a great system so far Tim.

bloodykiller 03-03-2012 07:02 PM

yeah especially cuz no1 has money now since it's too boring and slow to make it

Cubical 03-03-2012 09:08 PM

With 87 mining I can mine 1k in like 3 min...


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