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Geno 08-02-2011 10:56 PM

I formally challenge the current spar champion, FACE ME COWARD!

ffcmike 08-02-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1661282)
the advantage of having played an active server like UN is that i got to witness top sparrers duking it out. they adapt to different sparring styles and can change their own.

just because someone is good at running and playing "defense" doesn't mean they'll outlast or do any better than someone specialized in offense.

That's kindof my point though, everybody has their default style where some do better than others at first or within a single spar, but given a greater number of spars and subsequent adaptation the tide can change.

Within tournaments you don't really get this time to settle, adapt or perhaps even become fully focussed, I'd say it's a different form of competition with a slightly different set of credentials to when you do get a group of sparrers slugging it out over a few hours.

Crono 08-02-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1661285)
That's kindof my point though, everybody has their default style where some do better than others at first or within a single spar, but given a greater number of spars and subsequent adaptation the tide can change.

Within tournaments you don't really get this time to settle, adapt or perhaps even become fully focussed, I'd say it's a different form of competition with a slightly different set of credentials to when you do get a group of sparrers slugging it out over a few hours.

Top sparrers on UN "series", where they spar eachother multiple times and more than just on one occasion.

Unkownsoldier 08-03-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1661285)
That's kindof my point though, everybody has their default style where some do better than others at first or within a single spar, but given a greater number of spars and subsequent adaptation the tide can change.

Within tournaments you don't really get this time to settle, adapt or perhaps even become fully focussed, I'd say it's a different form of competition with a slightly different set of credentials to when you do get a group of sparrers slugging it out over a few hours.


This is why I suggested my point system, so you would get 10 spars just like the average series. I guess (in reference to your running analogy) the best runner is personal opinion. In today's flash-bang society we hear about Usain Bolt one of the fastest if not thee fastest man alive. When was the last time there was a lot of hype on a marathon runner? I guess the best is in favor and bias of the societies liking.

skillmaster19 08-03-2011 03:59 AM

sparring tactics:
1:lag and slash n run and repeat(slight lag)
2:lag and slash all over(extreme lag)
3:actually have a non lag match and try to get around the player and hit from the side.
4:stand and slash(noob tactic but works)
5:corner lame
6:???

ff7chocoboknight 08-03-2011 06:43 PM

Wall hug.

Ares 08-04-2011 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1661379)
sparring tactics:
1:lag and slash n run and repeat(slight lag)
2:lag and slash all over(extreme lag)
3:actually have a non lag match and try to get around the player and hit from the side.
4:stand and slash(noob tactic but works)
5:corner lame
6:???

you're obviously bad at sparring

Crono1508 08-07-2011 05:31 AM

All-time: NeoJenova

Nobody currently.

MysticX2X 08-07-2011 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1661144)
Trip

lol...

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1661099)
For what it's worth, on the 2 occasions I won Classic's monthly I didn't really enjoy it so much as I felt I'd sparred very defensively, when most of the time I prefer to try and pick my opponent apart.
I think it's fair to say there are a lot more defensive sparrers who are "hard to beat" than sparrers with good attacking timing and instinct.

I don't think there's anything wrong with sparring defensively. It's a tactic, like what many mma fighters/boxers use.

ffcmike 08-07-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1662345)
I don't think there's anything wrong with sparring defensively. It's a tactic, like what many mma fighters/boxers use.

I'm not actually saying that there's something wrong with it, people do it because it helps their chances of winning.
My point was that I don't think it requires the same level as skill compared to when trying to out-manoeuvre an opponent, and as such I think there's a higher number of more defensive minded sparrers.

Crono 08-07-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1662347)
I'm not actually saying that there's something wrong with it, people do it because it helps their chances of winning.
My point was that I don't think it requires the same level as skill compared to when trying to out-manoeuvre an opponent, and as such I think there's a higher number of more defensive minded sparrers.

Have you ever sparred Brett, Ares, or Warhawk? These guys will run circles around you without getting hit.

ffcmike 08-07-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1662364)
Have you ever sparred Brett, Ares, or Warhawk? These guys will run circles around you without getting hit.

And I'm not doubting that they're the top sparrers, I just mean in general.

Crono 08-07-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1662365)
And I'm not doubting that they're the top sparrers, I just mean in general.

But we're talking about the best itt...

MysticX2X 08-08-2011 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1662364)
Have you ever sparred Brett, Ares, or Warhawk? These guys will run circles around you without getting hit.

I think that's an overstatement lol.

Luda 08-08-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1662364)
Have you ever sparred Brett, Ares, or Warhawk? These guys will run circles around you without getting hit.

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1662444)
I think that's an overstatement lol.

Only that

Crono 08-08-2011 04:26 PM

i dunno man ive seen some big plays comin out of warhawk a few years back

Luda 08-08-2011 08:04 PM

Few years back maybe, I'm not gonna deny he's a good sparrer but compared to the other two he's a lot easier to hit

Crono 08-08-2011 08:43 PM

word

hastalavista 08-09-2011 02:46 PM

Can't name one sparrer, but the best are from N-pulse 05-06.

xXziroXx 08-09-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hastalavista (Post 1662659)
Can't name one sparrer, but the best are from N-pulse 05-06.

Hardly, the best ones are from Delteria.

ThomV 08-09-2011 03:17 PM

From my experience the best ones were from Classic.

hastalavista 08-09-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1662661)
Hardly, the best ones are from Delteria.

idk, i played Delteria spar tournies once in a while and not once finished outside semi-finals regardless i'm only above avarage sparrer.

I'd like to hear some good Delteria sparrers, because i don't know any except maybe Prado & Thallen.

papajchris 08-09-2011 05:29 PM

Some Zone sparrers are beast. The way they go pew pew and such. But really, there can't be a "best" sparrer unless he/she is best on all servers including Zodiac, Era, UN, Delt, Zone, etc.

Rufus 08-09-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1662682)
Some Zone sparrers are beast. The way they go pew pew and such. But really, there can't be a "best" sparrer unless he/she is best on all servers including Zodiac, Era, UN, Delt, Zone, etc.

lol

Unkownsoldier 08-09-2011 09:01 PM

Weren't there some players on Delteria's spar ranking system with like 3000+/75 rate? It could have been off of spar laming, but if it was legit they would be pretty good..

papajchris 08-10-2011 12:56 AM

Pew pew

MysticX2X 08-10-2011 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1662724)
Weren't there some players on Delteria's spar ranking system with like 3000+/75 rate? It could have been off of spar laming, but if it was legit they would be pretty good..

People on Unholy Nation also had that sort of rate before the reset.

Pimmeh 08-10-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1662724)
Weren't there some players on Delteria's spar ranking system with like 3000+/75 rate? It could have been off of spar laming, but if it was legit they would be pretty good..

The rating is just compared to wins and losses, right? Or does the rating give you points for defeating higher rating opponents and such as well?

Unkownsoldier 08-10-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1662857)
The rating is just compared to wins and losses, right? Or does the rating give you points for defeating higher rating opponents and such as well?

Rating is based off of wins and losses. Yet, if you beat someone with a lower rating you will gain less points. If you beat someone with a higher rating, you will gain more points. So let say your rating is 2000/75, and you spar players with a rating of 1300/75, it would take a long while to ever get to 3000. Yet, if you are sparring players with 1800/75-1900/75 it would be a little quicker but still take a while. Yet 1800-1900/75 sparers are generally pretty good.

hastalavista 08-10-2011 07:34 PM

I doubt anyone has ever had legit 3000/75.


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