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jkldogg 05-16-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1650084)
you should also have it so all 2 bullet shot guns either have a small clip and a high reload time, or a high freeze or really low rate of fire..

Sounds pretty good, but you need to elaborate on that. Those suggestions are pretty mixed up. ^^

hunterhunk 05-17-2011 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1650122)
Sounds pretty good, but you need to elaborate on that. Those suggestions are pretty mixed up. ^^

I'm saying that you have to find some sort of bigger flaw for 2 bullet guns that makes them different that other 20 damage non 2 bullets weapons.

For example:

DR's current stats:
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.22
Freeze: 0.12
Reload: 0.36
Spread: 0.04 (4.58°)

What you could do to fix this for a new balance is

Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.41
Freeze: 0.14 (doesn't really matter anyway)
Reload: 0.5-.6
Spread: 0.04 (4.58°)

keep the spread low, make it semi automatic again, and keep a low spread for it, and make its clip smaller

Shipka's current stats:
Gun Stats for 'Shipka':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.35
Freeze: 0.12
Reload: 0.36
Spread: 0.08 (9.16°)

What we could do with this
Gun Stats for 'Shipka':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.45-.5 (SINCE IT'S AUTO)
Freeze: 0.14 (doesn't matter same anyway)
Reload: 0.5-.6
Spread: 0.05

Since shipka has a tiny bit more spread, give it a little smaller clip than the DR.

ACR stats:
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.3
Freeze: 0.05
Reload: 0.4
Spread: 0.09 (10.31°)

What ACR should be
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.4
Freeze: 0.14
Reload: 0.6
Spread: 0.03

Give it a small clip due to it being faster than the other ones, but it's more expensive

but regardless, 2 bullet guns are seriously overpowered if you know how to use them

that's what you can do with 2 bullet guns, just a basic blueprint/idea

Or you could change the damage of the weapons too.

Edit: This is for when you re-scale guns, the only immediate nerf at this point in time should be the ACR. Just throwing it out there.

BigBear3 05-17-2011 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1644694)
is this really a position on Era?

Yea they also have a Gang Admin and a Business Admin. :rolleyes:

bloodykiller 05-17-2011 05:58 AM

good thing slash isnt and will never be guns admin

Frankie 05-17-2011 06:00 AM

I'll take the job.

jk

but srsly..

TheLinkMan2002 05-17-2011 08:30 AM

frank for guns admin! WOOO. and in all seriousness id prefer it if the acr wasnt a 2 shot, but instead a single shot with moderate spread with say .27 rof. making it a little worse than the mp5 but still a good gun, the way it is right now just feels awkward. 2 shot guns were never meant to have really low freeze it just doesn't handle the way it should. instead of it just being usefull for really fast wall laming and thats it, give it a spot right in between the tg and mp5. :D :D :D

bloodykiller 05-17-2011 04:57 PM

i dnt see y all of u sudden ppl dnt like .05 freeze guns
theyre harder to use (u gotta move quicker to use them effectively), and yeah u can lame but anyone with a bit of skill can avoid lame
if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight

hunterhunk 05-17-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650249)
i dnt see y all of u sudden ppl dnt like .05 freeze guns
theyre harder to use (u gotta move quicker to use them effectively), and yeah u can lame but anyone with a bit of skill can avoid lame
if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight



Don't give me that crap rofl, the way you and Rams and a lot of people use .05 freeze guns make it incredibly easy to use. Maybe if you actually used them differently it would be hard to use them, but you honestly don't have a clue of what you're talking about.

I know I'd make a much better guns admin than you by the way lol, but it doesn't matter, most if not all of the older players who still play agree everything needs to be nerfed and re-balanced.

Make the game skill-oriented again, and not about how big of a gun you have.

Demisis_P2P 05-17-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650249)
if u try wall laming me uve practically lost the spar/fight

yeah coz u've had so much practice at wall laming with ur 0.05 freeze gun that u'll be 2 steps ahead of them rite lol.

bloodykiller 05-17-2011 08:53 PM

older players? man u started playing era after me so stfu
and imo bar and luger r still the best guns on era, and they both have .1 freeze

bloodykiller 05-17-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1650277)
yeah coz u've had so much practice at wall laming with ur 0.05 freeze gun that u'll be 2 steps ahead of them rite lol.

no cuz wall laming isnt effective unless it's done well and in the right moment
u guys r all just mad lmao

hunterhunk 05-17-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650278)
older players? man u started playing era after me so stfu
and imo bar and luger r still the best guns on era, and they both have .1 freeze


Uhhh.... definitely not on the playing after you but believe what you like.

Also, if they were the best guns why don't you use them? All you do is run around with your Mp5 Navy and hold d while lagging... lol

bloodykiller 05-17-2011 09:16 PM

i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006

hunterhunk 05-17-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650283)
i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006

I see you use mp5 all the time in spars.... lol?

Also, I was early 05 too, lol.

Demisis_P2P 05-17-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1650284)
I see you use mp5 all the time in spars.... lol?

Also, I was early 05 too, lol.

Difference is that I remember you and your bro playing in 2005.
I don't remember seeing bloodykiller until late 2008 at least.

TheLinkMan2002 05-18-2011 04:13 AM

ive been around since 2002 and only have 1.8k hours. do i win most life award?

BigBear3 05-18-2011 05:09 AM

i am bigbear1992 and i have been here since the world began

James 05-18-2011 08:08 AM

i was once asian

Arakonda 05-18-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 1650351)
i was once asian

You still act like one.

Supaman771 05-18-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1650285)
I don't remember seeing bloodykiller until late 2008 at least.

Yeah? Whys that...

taylor 05-19-2011 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650283)
i use bar for sparring but not for raiding cuz it's too long
and i started early 2005, dnt rly remember when u did but mustve been late 2005/early 2006

Very cool!

bloodykiller 05-19-2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1650285)
Difference is that I remember you and your bro playing in 2005.
I don't remember seeing bloodykiller until late 2008 at least.

what ur saying is dumb cuz:
1.i wasnt playing in 2008, i quit in 2007 and restarted like 10months ago
2.how can i have a classic account if i started in 2008?

bloodykiller 05-19-2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor (Post 1650489)
Very cool!

ik totally

Demisis_P2P 05-19-2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650510)
how can i have a classic account if i started in 2008?

I wasn't even born in 1986 but I owned a 1986 Nissan Pintara.

Zeross 05-20-2011 04:33 AM

Lol.

bloodykiller 05-20-2011 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1650532)
I wasn't even born in 1986 but I owned a 1986 Nissan Pintara.

sux to be poor

Arakonda 05-20-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1650720)
sux to be poor

You would know.


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