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Fulg0reSama 01-23-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1625051)
Ya because like 5 people really make a difference. ;)

Oh yeah because at least 10 players on UN nowadays are N-Pulse players who realized bad management destroyed the server ;) 30-10=20. **** you're not too far from recent day N-Pulse count.

Hiro 01-23-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1625135)
Oh yeah because at least 10 players on UN nowadays are N-Pulse players who realized bad management destroyed the server ;) 30-10=20. **** you're not too far from recent day N-Pulse count.

except NPulse doesn't have a lot of people who sign in late at night

and for the record, trying to transform the server into something it was never supposed to be was N-Pulse's downfall. UN doesn't have this problem because it isn't anything specifically

Fulg0reSama 01-23-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1625147)
-random snip-
and for the record, trying to transform the server into something it was never supposed to be was N-Pulse's downfall. UN doesn't have this problem because it isn't anything specifically

That definitely was a fault... We tried to tell Chang for years it was a terrible idea but he ignored us, then Slik took over and finally got rid of that. The only reason I fought on that bullcrap was because people were being critical like I am now to UN. UN's downfall is purely staff are disappearing and It's going to be a lot less popular because nothing will get out as fast and player expectations will be unsuccessfully met and you'll know what'll happen. I also miss your point somewhat, you should finish what you're trying to say as a whole instead of vague points. I'm gonna say this nicely, stop trying to defend UN because It is in no different of the situation N-Pulse once was and will not recover from. Accept the truth and the healing process can begin.

Hiro 01-23-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1625149)
That definitely was a fault... We tried to tell Chang for years it was a terrible idea but he ignored us, then Slik took over and finally got rid of that. The only reason I fought on that bullcrap was because people were being critical like I am now to UN. UN's downfall is purely staff are disappearing and It's going to be a lot less popular because nothing will get out as fast and player expectations will be unsuccessfully met and you'll know what'll happen. I also miss your point somewhat, you should finish what you're trying to say as a whole instead of vague points. I'm gonna say this nicely, stop trying to defend UN because It is in no different of the situation N-Pulse once was and will not recover from.

kind of hard to take anything you say seriously when you've already stated that the only reason you're posting in this thread is to get revenge on myself and others who told you (correctly) that N-Pulse sucks and should be shut down

but let's not let you troll too much: the main difference between UN's situation and the one N-Pulse is facing is that UN only sucks - it still has an active community because there is nowhere else to go except someplace worse (N-Pulse). talking as if all the noobs who play UN (only because when they started out it had the highest playercount among classic servers) are going to quit because of a lack of updates is absurd: all they care about are events and talking amongst one another, which UN provides already. the player's who might actually quit are the ones who migrated from classic or N-Pulse, or those player's who play multiple servers. that might be 25% of the server's active population gone - unlike N-Pulse whose own staff won't even log onto the server

let me know when you want to try trolling a thread again bro. i mean, it's the only thing you can attempt now that even N-Pulse's core players admit that it blows and you can't defend it anymore as a "famous N-Pulsian"

Hiro 01-23-2011 06:25 PM

preemptive reply: no it isn't

Fulg0reSama 01-23-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1625151)
kind of hard to take anything you say seriously when you've already stated that the only reason you're posting in this thread is to get revenge on myself and others who told you (correctly) that N-Pulse sucks and should be shut down

but let's not let you troll too much: the main difference between UN's situation and the one N-Pulse is facing is that UN only sucks - it still has an active community because there is nowhere else to go except someplace worse (N-Pulse). talking as if all the noobs who play UN (only because when they started out it had the highest playercount among classic servers) are going to quit because of a lack of updates is absurd: all they care about are events and talking amongst one another, which UN provides already. the player's who might actually quit are the ones who migrated from classic or N-Pulse, or those player's who play multiple servers. that might be 25% of the server's active population gone - unlike N-Pulse whose own staff won't even log onto the server

let me know when you want to try trolling a thread again bro. i mean, it's the only thing you can attempt now that even N-Pulse's core players admit that it blows and you can't defend it anymore as a "famous N-Pulsian"

response to preemptive strike: Yeah, it is.

You told us nothing we didn't know already so... Where's the credibility of repeating what we already knew..? N-Pulse was helpable, repairable and we only asked of the people who were wanting to pay any sort of attention for its aid and you only kicked us while we were down, so really your "slander" towards N-Pulse is invalid. I told my opinion and the only I'm actually trolling is you and your UN loyalist attitude, and I guess anyone else who feels they have any "valid" reason to defend UN and it's shamble of abusive staff NPCs and idiotic staff (Not like N-Pulse didn't have these at all, afterall we are practically the same type of server as I've stated more than once).


It's just something for me to do while I wait for something better to do in my day. We tried to tell you exactly the same and once again by the reverse hypocritical way this is going I'm only going to laugh. I'm not even defending N-Pulse so I think you've confused the roles, I'm here to laugh about the irony of what's happening to UN and just sling some mud of the old days back in your face. Also you're making this too easy. UN did have the highest playercount for a classic server and your "core" players are about 5-7 RCs, 10 trial imbeciles and 10-20 people who talk to each other on a memory leak of a chat room "game".

Yeah N-Pulse is dead and the Staff don't even log on anymore, hell I even question the fact I'm a "famous N-Pulsian" consider I started in 2005 and quit barely into 2011 entirely, but so this doesn't go too far which I think It has anyways; I'm serving one simple objective just as you are and you're not doing a very good job at yours.

tl;dr: My Wall of Text > Your Wall of Text.

Hiro 01-23-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1625155)
u mad im right stop posting loser stop it ):

oh let's get technical now!

1) which staff NPC are "abusive" and which staff have you personally seen or been abused by?

2) if N-Pulse was repairable what is it now? because it's in the same place it was when it was "repairable" except it's managers and staff have quit instead of the players this time. does that mean it's dead? what happened to your loyalty? i guess kids from 05 don't really know the meaning of having a server die on them

3) your criticism of UN's current situation is, "5-7 RCs, 10 trial imbeciles and 10-20 people who talk to each other on a memory leak of a chat room 'game'." but you do realize that that is a far better situation than NP had? but wait, you said they were the same!

4) you tried to tell us the same exact things i'm telling you now? i think not, perhaps you have trouble reading and do not remember your own posts correctly: NP claimed that it was on it's way back up from the dead, sprouting nonsense such as creating a completely new system, new overworlds, new quests, etc. UN hasn't claimed anything other than me pointing out that UN has not slipped far enough to be considered another NP. but you seem intent on making me the UN-spokesperson acting as if you know me somehow, or that Cron-star gave me the position or something stupid. maybe you should look up some of my old posts and figure out my real position in UN? you've already stated that you have nothing better to do so at least research who you are trying to troll so you might be successful

5) let's even get your other posts involved: you said, "Oh yeah because at least 10 players on UN nowadays are N-Pulse players" but you act like N-Pulse has 10 players? the only players from N-Pulse are slikrick, blair, kay, and infamous who play regularly. where are the other 6? even if you count yourself, can you name the other 5 players who go on UN enough to be called active?

james544 01-30-2011 02:56 AM

The development staff are actually busy and working (And by development staff, I mean mostly Bane and GK). We just released TD and Bane is finishing up 2 projects right now. We also have some other off-side projects but I have no idea who's working on them right now.

Imperialistic 01-30-2011 06:31 PM

i laff when hiro sticks up for UN when he is staff
i laff when hiro bashes UN when he isn't staff

Hiro 01-30-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic (Post 1626753)
i laff when hiro sticks up for UN when he is staff
i laff when hiro bashes UN when he isn't staff

its cool how people will post without reading the thread first (:

Mark Sir Link 01-31-2011 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by james544 (Post 1626562)
The development staff are actually busy and working (And by development staff, I mean mostly Bane and GK). We just released TD and Bane is finishing up 2 projects right now. We also have some other off-side projects but I have no idea who's working on them right now.

who is "we"?

This is probably one of the most irksome things UN's current management does, whenever anything is released, they say "We released", but when the players are grumbling and rousing, it's suddenly solely the developer's fault.

The management doesn't provide anything to the developers, let alone any sort of direction or general goal to work for, but are always quick to try and get some share of praise for any release.

Fulg0reSama 01-31-2011 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1626847)
who is "we"?

This is probably one of the most irksome things UN's current management does, whenever anything is released, they say "We released", but when the players are grumbling and rousing, it's suddenly solely the developer's fault.

100% agreed.. I mean the management will get backburn but no direct calling out.

Toxen 01-31-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1626847)
who is "we"?

This is probably one of the most irksome things UN's current management does, whenever anything is released, they say "We released", but when the players are grumbling and rousing, it's suddenly solely the developer's fault.

The management doesn't provide anything to the developers, let alone any sort of direction or general goal to work for, but are always quick to try and get some share of praise for any release.

Well I've been on UN's scripting team for almost over a month now, and actually Crono is giving me and as well as other developmental staff members orders and how he wants our current projects to go, so he is just not taking the praise he is helping.

MysticX2X 01-31-2011 06:49 AM

Who cares

warriors94 01-31-2011 05:23 PM

Rufus4Manager

Rufus 01-31-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by warriors94 (Post 1626955)
Rufus4Manager

No thanks.

Unkownsoldier 02-01-2011 03:39 AM

Tower Defense is gooooouuuudd

Mark Sir Link 02-01-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1626931)
Who cares

I remember you getting very heated when someone suggested you weren't doing anything as LAT Admin, why the sudden shift in stance?

MysticX2X 02-01-2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1627031)
I remember you getting very heated when someone suggested you weren't doing anything as LAT Admin, why the sudden shift in stance?

Probably because I don't care lmao.

Luda 02-01-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1627052)
Probably because I don't care lmao.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...0gifs/shaq.gif

MysticX2X 02-01-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda (Post 1627097)

http://i32.tinypic.com/2gyag4x.gif

Seeya 02-04-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1627153)

0 relevance, not funny at all.

WaDaFack 02-06-2011 03:19 PM

Are you guys really wanting to remove the last, somewhat alive classic-style server?
I guess we'll be stuck with Zodiac and Era, than we'll start bashing one of those in the next few years to keep us entertained.

salesman 02-06-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1628521)
I guess we'll be stuck with Zodiac and Era, than we'll start bashing one of those in the next few years to keep us entertained.

start bashing era?..when did we stop?

SlikRick 02-06-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1628554)
start bashing era?..when did we stop?

LOL I was gonna say the same thing.

MattKan 02-09-2011 02:15 AM

So I talked to absolut_crono who told me they didn't have time to work on big content due to them having to make content for all the holidays

Mark Sir Link 02-09-2011 03:00 AM

lmao

MysticX2X 02-09-2011 08:20 AM

lol?

Fulg0reSama 02-09-2011 11:56 AM

Sounds like he's bull****ting in more ways than one, very funny.

LordSquirt 02-09-2011 01:36 PM

this server is getting better by the day, u guys r just n00bs

Fulg0reSama 02-09-2011 01:45 PM

nou

Mark Sir Link 03-20-2011 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1629270)
So I talked to absolut_crono who told me they didn't have time to work on big content due to them having to make content for all the holidays

You would think if this is true someone might have found the 3 minutes required to finally replace all the ice with water outside seaport by now.

Also neat v6 bug included


It's obvious no one from the top down gives a **** about making UN a better server but I find it pretty sad for Graal overall that none of the people who should be providing oversight to playerworlds give a ****, either.

Demisis_P2P 03-20-2011 07:02 AM

I don't see where the difficulty in releasing content on a regular (monthly/quarterly/yearly) basis comes from.

Mark Sir Link 03-20-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1637619)
I don't see where the difficulty in releasing content on a regular (monthly/quarterly/yearly) basis comes from.

There's no difficulty to it, there just needs to be people willing to do it.

Currently there is no staff member on UN willing to do it, and nothing is being done about it.

MattKan 03-20-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1637620)
There's no difficulty to it, there just needs to be people willing to do it.

Currently there is no staff member on UN willing to do it, and nothing is being done about it.

Since none of the staff are doing anything, I'm *trying* to make an Unholy Nation Opoly game. Maybe if I do a good enough shop it will get uploaded?

james544 03-20-2011 07:59 PM

R u guys fking blind? We want this sht to b secretive but Shane gave u guys a hint of some stuff that's going on. Hes releasing some new items after a shop is finished and there's a temple to replace the quests, and trust me, it looks ba. If u guys dot think any development is going on, please, be my guest and apply for a dev job.

MysticX2X 03-20-2011 08:08 PM

I think there are better things to tackle rather than releasing a slew of (most likely) bugged items.

james544 03-20-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1637692)
I think there are better things to tackle rather than releasing a slew of (most likely) bugged items.

Better than nothing in my opinion. o_O

fowlplay4 03-20-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by james544 (Post 1637727)
Better than nothing in my opinion. o_O

Is it really better to contribute to the problem for a fairly short-term gain?

Mark Sir Link 03-20-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by james544 (Post 1637690)
R u guys fking blind? We want this sht to b secretive but Shane gave u guys a hint of some stuff that's going on. Hes releasing some new items after a shop is finished and there's a temple to replace the quests, and trust me, it looks ba. If u guys dot think any development is going on, please, be my guest and apply for a dev job.

I'm not sure how "are you guys blind" and "secretive" are in the same post.

And then I saw it was james544


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