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Birdbird_0 01-17-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1620996)
It's like I'm in a time warp.

I agree!

Knux 01-17-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 1620685)
Graal2001 is coming back. Tell your friends!


Yeah but you guys are just going to close it again in a week, and then it'll be down for another 3 years. I'll make sure to get everyone deathly excited though. :rolleyes:

Lance 01-17-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Knux (Post 1623457)
Yeah but you guys are just going to close it again in a week, and then it'll be down for another 3 years. I'll make sure to get everyone deathly excited though. :rolleyes:

I know there were a lot of words in this thread, but I am confident you can summon the strength and willpower together to decipher them!

Knux 01-17-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 1623464)
I know there were a lot of words in this thread, but I am confident you can summon the strength and willpower together to decipher them!

Oh so this is just a code I'm supposed to unlock?
This isn't gonna be like the Ovaltine hoax is it?!

Geno 01-21-2011 12:01 AM

there are 23 people viewing this forum section at the moment. me and 22 guests....must be a glitch?

SlikRick 01-21-2011 12:15 AM

Probably not because there are 90 guest accounts logged into the forums right now.

Rufus 01-21-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SlikRick (Post 1624480)
Probably not because there are 90 guest accounts logged into the forums right now.

how done i obtained guest account?

Crono 01-21-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SlikRick (Post 1624480)
Probably not because there are 90 guest accounts logged into the forums right now.

:noob:

MattKan 01-21-2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1624470)
there are 23 people viewing this forum section at the moment. me and 22 guests....must be a glitch?

Yeah, that would be your paparazzi following you around the forums

Geno 01-23-2011 09:52 PM

just got on graal v6, it works for my computer unlike the last version. does 2k1 have a lobby or something or is it staff only or what

HarDKoRe1234 01-25-2011 03:41 AM

I miss G2K1 so much.

Sparkplug 01-25-2011 10:07 AM

I really hope this works out, I will be there to play. Got a release date in mind?

--Chris-- 01-26-2011 07:48 AM

Date is a bad idea imo

Elk 01-26-2011 11:00 AM

Setting deadlines prior is bad because things arnt even planned...and youre thinking of a release already? How simple minded :)

Fulg0reSama 01-26-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1625622)
Setting deadlines prior is bad because things arnt even planned...and youre thinking of a release already? How simple minded :)

For someone working on the project, you don't seem to voice yourself very much and If things goes bad, guess who has small blame? ;)

SlikRick 01-26-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1625216)
just got on graal v6, it works for my computer unlike the last version. does 2k1 have a lobby or something or is it staff only or what

The server is staff only right now.

Geno 01-26-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1625622)
Setting deadlines prior is bad because things arnt even planned...and youre thinking of a release already? How simple minded :)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_430670_n.jpg

Elk 01-27-2011 03:04 PM

hey, are you cutting down on me just because im blonde!?

I will have partial blame :) yes.

Geno 02-26-2011 08:05 AM

is it still moving forward?

fowlplay4 02-26-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1633323)
is it still moving forward?

no, and GDT is dead too, the only reason it's still around is because they ignored ben's request to have it disbanded.

Astram 02-26-2011 05:51 PM

Can't wait :)

Geno 02-26-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Astram (Post 1633364)
Can't wait :)

?

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1633327)
no, and GDT is dead too, the only reason it's still around is because they ignored ben's request to have it disbanded.

niiiiice

Geno 03-06-2011 11:43 PM

Lance pops in with beautiful promises then just leaves us high n dry :<

gravator 03-07-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1634964)
Lance pops in with beautiful promises then just leaves us high n dry :<

He may have to rescript everything from square one because it's either...

1) Done using an outdated style scripting.

2) Messy and not worth using what several other managers have tried to string together.

3) Not up to the standards that only Lance knows about for some odd reason.

Lets wait for 5 years for him to tell us "things are being worked on." before we bother him again. :D

Crono 03-07-2011 11:19 PM

osnap

xAndrewx 03-07-2011 11:22 PM

what does this mean!!!

fowlplay4 03-07-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1635115)
what does this mean!!!

That G2K1 efforts will continue to never be seen.

Shards-Of-Fate 03-08-2011 12:35 AM

G2k xi

James 03-08-2011 02:04 AM

rip :cry::cry:

Geno 03-08-2011 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gravator (Post 1635113)
He may have to rescript everything from square one because it's either...

1) Done using an outdated style scripting.

2) Messy and not worth using what several other managers have tried to string together.

3) Not up to the standards that only Lance knows about for some odd reason.

Lets wait for 5 years for him to tell us "things are being worked on." before we bother him again. :D

2k1 is outdated because it is 10 years old. i still think it was thebomb.com
all managers and devs, including what i did, could never amount to what birdbird/koni/other ballers did.
Lance has a good heart but it truly did die when birdbird left :(



boom :(.

ffcmike 03-08-2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1635173)
2k1 is outdated because it is 10 years old.

It's primarily the scripting and possibly general standards that are out-dated, not the concept.

gravator 03-08-2011 05:02 AM

General standards? Koni put out what seem to me like very impressive graphics, in the meantime servers like zodiac have the spotlight with much less on visuals, and i'm certain scripting can be used well enough since you show your skills with it on classic.


I'm sure someone would agree, just get creative with the graphics, like you did on classic (proper shadows on the bushes/signs when you throw them) Something similar to atlantis with the gralats being changed (it does not have to be just like theirs, but change it somehow, it would be new and probably welcome by lots of players) and many other small ideas that could bring a new look to an old but well liked server.

Don't be afraid to ask questions, get feedback and show little bits of your work here and there like atlantis does, nobody can steal it if they wanted unless the want to get into trouble for using graphics limited to one server.

MrOmega 03-08-2011 05:26 AM

This may mean nothing or just go unnoticed, but if an issue is broken scripts or GS1 scripts, I will gladly help convert and update scripts to current standards of Graal Script 2.

Geno 03-08-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1635178)
It's primarily the scripting and possibly general standards that are out-dated, not the concept.

if the scripts worked back then how do they not work now ?_?, maybe they don't work with the new client :0?

i miss a server with a booming economy with an equally booming kingdom sector. perfect mix :F

people would kill for a white gangster hat...and for a bomy. people would work 100's of hours for stupid items/status....it was so great QQ.

birdbird was the original engine of incorporating lights into levels, visual feasts...he truly mastered it more so than any developer, to this day nobody can make a a level/map/whatever shine like that fool could.

Kamaeru 03-08-2011 09:07 PM

A lot of people are militant against Graal2001's birdbird style in this day, though.
Go talk to Rufus about that.

Anyway, I can verify that almost everything works on Graal2001 right now.
I think that it is all scripted in an older style and language. But it all works exactly the same as it did the last time anyone stepped foot on Graal2001. It actually works the same as it did when the server was on the serverlist and slowly dwindling.

You can:
-farm apples
-rent a market stand
-mine
-ride the train (which works perfectly well but needs touching up)
-bake bread
-ski
-kart racing works same as ever
-play hockey
-play kingdoms event
(all the events pretty much work I believe)
-fish quest works
-zalactic labs is in ship shape
-you can still use the fireworks you get in the slums
-i bought all the musical instruments and tried them out. they could use updated sound effects

you can't:
-ride the boat at silverstun's sea
-go to dustari (lance seems to have made it so that you get disconnected over and over if you go there. i actually am stuck because of this and can't log in)
-go to Zormite (this location seems kinda screwed)

If anyone is wondering about the state of anything else I could tell you.
Basically if the old code is used, then the game is near completion. If new code is to be implemented then my guess is that I would probably need to pay someone before that seems like a possibility (which I would consider).

xAndrewx 03-08-2011 11:26 PM

its not hard to convert stuff - i don't get why its taking so long? o_O

DustyPorViva 03-09-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1635281)
its not hard to convert stuff - i don't get why its taking so long? o_O

Probably because of the sheer quantity of stuff. Old servers weren't really able to take advantage of the efficient methods we use today, and more importantly they were around long enough to end up with piles and piles of stuff scattered scattered everywhere.

fowlplay4 03-09-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1635281)
its not hard to convert stuff - i don't get why its taking so long? o_O

It's a management/leadership issue that's affecting development. It's entirely up to Skyld or Lance on what gets done on the server and they aren't exactly making their intentions or plans clear to those that want to help.

I guess it doesn't really help that the public expectations of this project are very high. I'm sure people wouldn't want to see this server have a Maloria style release either.

Back to waiting indefinitely on this project though, at least people got a look at some of the assets when they were available.

Lyndzey 03-09-2011 04:30 AM

Honestly, how much longer will PC Graal be around? Is it worth it to spend all this time developing a server when the game might be shutting down soon? It's difficult to stay motivated for a project like this when you are unsure of the future of the game. So far, no one has succeeded in bringing back Graal2001, and no one probably will.

Crono 03-09-2011 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyndzey (Post 1635345)
Honestly, how much longer will PC Graal be around? Is it worth it to spend all this time developing a server when the game might be shutting down soon? It's difficult to stay motivated for a project like this when you are unsure of the future of the game. So far, no one has succeeded in bringing back Graal2001, and no one probably will.

g2k1 iPhone


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