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defaultaccount 10-21-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1607899)
It reads like you're explaining the idea off the top of your head to someone else in person.

I.e:

Basically, after a point where a party has achieved enough to become a gang, they get the chance to pick one of the bases all around gmap to be there gang base. After that if the gang is successful and doing a very good job verse the rival gangs and party gangs, unlock more perks like gang gun, and more player slots after very long stretches of doing good as a gang. Like HP levels but a longer grind to get things like gang guns. There will also be rival party gangs that will be trying to take over your base. Having some sort of hostile takeover if you take there base an amount of time or or a 10,000hp chest something. Some sort of system So that parties could take over a gang base and then they have full control over the base, if that gang had a gang gun, the party could use that gang gun ect. If they unlocked a heli or something just an example. Like stuff like that, all the perks the gang has unlocked the party can use while they have the gang base, more members, ect. If they hold it for longer than like 2 hours or something redicious. THEY GET THE BASE! But the gang would have had to be mostly online, prize is great so the difficulty of doing it is that fold. The party would become a gang and have all the perks that were already unlocked. The gang to get there base back would have to do the same thing the party did, hold there base back down for an amount of time to get the base back, and or take over a new gang base by the same process.

Simplifies to...

When a party has earned enough points to become a gang they get to choose one of the many gang bases on the gmap. As they progress and continue to earn points through gang activity they will be able to unlock other perks such as a gang gun, or more player slots to increase the capacity of their gang.

Gangs will be able to capture each others bases. To capture a base the attacker's will have to destroy a chest, or stand on a point till the base is considered captured. To give the defender's a chance the attackers will have to maintain the base for longer than 2 hours before ownership is transferred over to the attacking gang, upon receiving ownership of the base they will be rewarded with the bases unique perk or other rewards that still need to be determined.

Now what do you think is easier to read and understand?

AKA: Ya that's a good idea tho...

anyways

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 10:08 PM

I want to ask two questions.

How old are you sir and what is the farthest in your education you have reached?

fowlplay4 10-21-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607901)
anyways

Your 'idea' is common-sense and has probably been pitched around by staff for years now. The only thing you did was put a ****ty wrapper around it and post it. So yeah thanks for posting, I wasn't sure if the forums was going reach it's eratard quota for the week.

Supaman771 10-21-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607898)
Would you like me to screenshot and actually point out every mistake you made? I'd love to if you would like.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1607899)
Long editing.

Why do you guys continue this, I find it fairly funny the lengths you're willing to go to just to prove the obvious fact he's not a great essay writer.

@Fowlplay, If you were able to get that information out of his explanation and process it through to be clear then obviously it wasn't poorly written. Just poorly thought out or constructed.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1607905)
Why do you guys continue this, I find it fairly funny the lengths you're willing to go to just to prove the obvious fact he's not a great essay writer.

I was hoping he would understand it, not everyone else or were you caught up so much in trying to defend the fellow that you didn't catch that?

Supaman771 10-21-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607906)
I was hoping he would understand it, not everyone else or were you caught up so much in trying to defend the fellow that you didn't catch that?

It doesn't take 3 pages to say 'You're not very good at structuring your essays, perhaps you should re-write it before submitting so people will actually consider it a valid idea.'

And I'm not defending him in the least, I'm pointing out how pathetic your attempts are to continue a posting war over how good he is at writing.


*Out of this thread now.

fowlplay4 10-21-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1607905)
Why do you guys continue this, I find it fairly funny the lengths you're willing to go to just to prove the obvious fact he's not a great essay writer.

@Fowlplay, If you were able to get that information out of his explanation and process it through to be clear then obviously it wasn't poorly written. Just poorly thought out or constructed.

When you're trying to present an idea to the public you shouldn't make them work more than they have to understand it. The final presentation of his 'ideas' were poorly presented and then he went on to talk down and react negatively to those who called him out on it which is why this is continuing.

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607903)
I want to ask two questions.

How old are you sir and what is the farthest in your education you have reached?

Came out of grade 12 with a 84 average.
Got accepted to Dalhousie university for arts (my choice), but life happened. Most of all my math courses were advanced courses. I took pre-cal second semester in grade 12 and came out in the high 70's, got a 85 % on my provincial exam for pre-cal. Low 70's in advanced physics 12. Same with chemistry A.

English grade 12 was like 92% the highest mark i had in grade 12 (i was good with my english teacher). I spent alot of time on writing that, yes, I'm sure I could have made it alot beter. But conveying the idea correctly was really what I was going for, not a A from a English teacher. I tried my very best in highschool, I did it for my mother, because of other sh that happend in my life before I had to move, I promised her.

I'm 21. So it's been a long time sense I wrote a Essay bud nor do I give a fudge what you think bud because my lifes real, and nah I am not some smug ass, acting smart. ;]

All thats ^ there, is my word. English was one of my favorate subjects, that's why I chose arts when I could have easily done anything I wanted to in Dal. That was a long time ago now, things change, **** gets real.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607912)
Came out of grade 12 with a 84 average.
Got accepted to Dalhousie university for arts (my choice), but life happened. Most of all my math courses were advanced courses. I took pre-cal second semester in grade 12 and came out in the high 70's, got a 85 % on my provincial exam for pre-cal. Low 70's in advanced physics 12. Same with chemistry A.

English grade 12 was like 92% the highest mark i had in grade 12 (i was good with my english teacher). I spent alot of time on writing that, yes, I'm sure I could have made it alot beter. But conveying the idea correctly was really what I was going for, not a A from a English teacher. I tried my very best in highschool, I did it for my mother, because of other sh that happend in my life before I had to move, I promised her.

I'm 21. So it's been a long time sense I wrote a Essay bud nor do I give a **** what you think bud because my lifes real, and nah I am not some smug dumb ass either acting smart. ;]

All thats ^ there, is my word.

I only asked for your highest education point. Not lifestory :P

For someone who seems to say the least accomplished as far as your "path" in life goes than how can you write such a terrible essay? As kids to adults we practically are slammed with essays to the face so I doubt you've forgotten it. Now I think I'll trade my own answers.

I'm a 17 year old who's still in high school. I'm not going to go on and give a year or threes worth of my school history to back it up. I type and act the way I am because It is how I am. I'm not trying to be condescending with what I'm trying to say at all so please stop being so defensive about it.

kia345 10-21-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607912)
nor do I give a fudge what you think bud because my lifes real, and nah I am not some smug ass, acting smart. ;]

Good job invalidating any credibility you once had

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607914)
I only asked for your highest education point. Not lifestory :P

For someone who seems to say the least accomplished as far as your "path" in life goes than how can you write such a terrible essay? As kids to adults we practically are slammed with essays to the face so I doubt you've forgotten it. Now I think I'll trade my own answers.

I'm a 17 year old who's still in high school. I'm not going to go on and give a year or threes worth of my school history to back it up. I type and act the way I am because It is how I am. I'm not trying to be condescending with what I'm trying to say at all so please stop being so defensive about it.

pff look at your posts bud, like seriously review what you've been doing because you're obviously confused. I took the 'essay' off, I didn't mean it was a literal essay, nor is it in any way illegible or 'incoherent'. You're just being a ____ trying to sink the topic without posting anything to do with it without having even read it saying it is not up to par with some 17 year old child.

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607915)
Good job invalidating any credibility you once had

It's the truth (what i said)

What does that even mean anyways, credibility like who are you to even judge me from me getting mad that this kid has been sitting here for 2 days just trying to sink the topic with a bunch of bull**** when I thought the entire thing out for years. It's complete disrespect. Lives a real life and actually takes the time to try to help Era out like are you even from Era? Because I worked for Era for like 8 years. I'm not sitting here trying to boast, but the entirety of that grouping of ideas IS PERFECTLY ""coherent"" unless you just don't want to read it, in witch case don't come in here posting smug for like 3 days.


This entire topic I've been trying to defend the fact that, YES, read it. Don't listen to these 1999 posts saying: O Ya, well this isn't good essay. U Missed 1 Comma.

Supaman771 10-21-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607915)
Good job invalidating any credibility you once had

To think I gave him a chance... :(

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607916)
pff look at your posts bud, like seriously review what you've been doing because you're obviously confused. I took the 'essay' off, I didn't mean it was a literal essay, nor is it in any way illegible or 'incoherent'. You're just being a ____ trying to sink the topic without posting anything to do with it without having even read it saying it is not up to par with some 17 year old child.

essay, paragraph, presentation. I don't really care what label you wish to call it.

kia345 10-21-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607916)
What does that even mean anyways, credibility like who are you to even judge me from me getting mad that this kid

I'll let that speak for itself
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It's complete disrespect from some 17 year old kid talking to someone who finished high school with higher marks then he could get anyways.
No one cares, especially on the internet. No one owes you anything. And really, it wasn't disrespect. If you're going to offer up an idea, you should make it presentable. It shows that you take pride in your work and feel it's valuable enough for other people to take interest in. That's what he was telling you.
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I'm not sitting here trying to boast, but the entirety of that grouping of ideas IS PERFECTLY incoherent
What?

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 10:54 PM

This guy needs some help with vocabulary yeesh.

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607921)
I'll let that speak for itself

No one cares, especially on the internet. No one owes you anything. And really, it wasn't disrespect. If you're going to offer up an idea, you should make it presentable. It shows that you take pride in your work and feel it's z_____valuable_____z enough for other people to take interest in. That's what he was telling you.

What?


That's why this is bothering me so much. Not to mention I spent alot of time writing that all out, and reading it back to myself for hours, the ideas are very complex (speaking of the spar platoons). Idea, not a release. I'm guessing you didn't even read it and are sitting here adding to buds downplay of the actual ideas that are wrote there.

This is you guys trying to prevent players taking interest to it. It's perfectly well written so just drop it.

MontyPython 10-21-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607925)
I did that's why this is bothering me so much. I'm guessing you didn't even read it and are sitting here adding to buds downplay of the actual ideas that are wrote there.

This is you guys trying to prevent players taking interest to it. It's perfectly well written so just drop it.

perfect - excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement.

Would you like to try again?

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607925)
I did that's why this is bothering me so much. I'm guessing you didn't even read it and are sitting here adding to buds downplay of the actual ideas that are wrote there.

This is you guys trying to prevent players taking interest to it. It's perfectly well written so just drop it.

Okay. Let's not consider the fact they just might read the first page, read half of the second page and realize "Oh they're just bickering." and give their opinion towards it! Silly me! :rolleyes:

If they read anything past page three your idea is as good as dead in my personal opinion to most with an IQ over 35.

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607927)
Okay. Let's not consider the fact they just might read the first page, read half of the second page and realize "Oh they're just bickering." and give their opinion towards it! Silly me! :rolleyes:

If they read anything past page three your idea is as good as dead in my personal opinion to most with an IQ over 35. My Dumb self feels proud of this 2.

How come you act so smug and smart. It's pretty clear your thinking you're real good at english or something? like damn kid.

ex: Acting smart. VS. Guys with flashy cars

kia345 10-21-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607929)
How come you act so smug and smart. It's pretty clear you're not smart at all other than thinking you're real good at english or something?

Everything you say reminds me of them wanna be nerd kids who get adverage marks and get a adverage job, and for fun do things like this ex: Acting smart.

How come you act so hostile to something that wasn't even a direct insult at all? It's pretty clear you're insecure about people's opinions of yourself; do you even realize people online don't matter?

Everything you say reminds me of one of those compensating e-tough guys who lead mediocre lives and think the world should love them because of the petty things they've done such as ex: flipping out over well intended criticism from an irrelevant source

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:14 PM

There was NOTHING wrong with the way I wrote that.

I took the time to proof read over and over and over, scrutinize these extreemly complex idea's.

fowlplay4 10-21-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607931)
There was NOTHING wrong with the way I wrote that.

1.) No spellling Errors ;]

2.) Took the time to read it over and over and over again so I could explain these extreemly complex ideas on paper, so that there perfectly understandable to people even like sooGoMa

Oh the irony...

Yeah if you were legally retarded, I'd agree with you.

kia345 10-21-2010 11:16 PM

No, there wasn't anything "wrong".

It could've been better though. A lot better. And if your reply to Fulgore was along the lines of "yeah, you're right, everyone has room for improvement, I'll keep that in mind!" then this thread would've ended there and no one would've even seen your post. Instead, you took it as a personal attack and flew off on him.


I've been bracing for "say that to my face and not online" since page one.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607929)
How come you act so smug and smart. It's pretty clear your thinking you're real good at english or something? like damn kid.

ex: Acting smart. VS. Guys with flashy cars

I promise you it's no act. I seem smart because that's a part of what you interpret from my responses. I'll be sure to change who I am just for you.

I'd say I'm above average (maybe..?). Also what's with you and flashy cars >_<
I guess I do seem smug due to my attitude, I'm just not very friendly so much :p

@Pojo me too haha

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607933)
No, there wasn't anything "wrong".

It could've been better though. A lot better. And if your reply to Fulgore was along the lines of "yeah, you're right, everyone has room for improvement, I'll keep that in mind!" then this thread would've ended there and no one would've even seen your post. Instead, you took it as a personal attack and flew off on him.


I've been bracing for "say that to my face and not online" since page one.

I didn't fly off on him. SO wait, you didn't read the topic or the initial post either? Seriously look at what the guy keeps saying for about 3 pages, and how I try to respond to it. Review this topic seriously... lmao this is pathetic. ::shakes head in disgust

No. I believe the ideas were conveyed perfectly, especially with the diagram to explain the mechanics of the games and scrim matches. Anyone still on the "ya could been write better" part just doesn't want to see anything come out of the topic. Honestly, I don't really care. Because the main thing is; that people read the first post and absorb the ideas I'm promoting.

Mission Complete.

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607935)
I promise you it's no act. I seem smart because that's a part of what you interpret from my responses. I'll be sure to change who I am just for you.

I'd say I'm above average (maybe..?). Also what's with you and flashy cars >_<
I guess I do seem smug due to my attitude, I'm just not very friendly so much :p

@Pojo me too haha


Probally because ur fat or something or ugly. (Why you ACT smart.)

The flashy car bit goes as, people who have flashy cars usually are compensating for something.
So '''People''' who sit on forums always looking for someones spelling error to side swipe them with "UR DUM UR DUM NOT READING LALALALLALALALLALALALAL" , usually means they got a C on the last math quiz. But it's like a whole other thing if they go on about it for like 3-4 days lol, in like 13 posts. Really smart people do sht like that bud, not Adverage, or Expected.


But my main point is that the 'Grouping of Idea's' , is fine as far as how it was writen. Becuase I proof read it over and over for hours to make sure it was as COMPREHENSIVE as possible for extreemly complex ideas. When you finish reading, and looking at the example I provided. It should be fully understood. That's the main thing imo, idk about the structure or what ever excuses you're using to sink the topic.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 11:29 PM

I smell denial :blush:

kia345 10-21-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607936)
I didn't fly off on him. SO wait, you didn't read the topic or the initial post either? Seriously look at what the guy keeps saying for about 3 pages, and how I try to respond to it. Review this topic seriously... lmao this is pathetic.

Your second reply is where you started throwing down a wall of text and calling it a "personal attack". That was on the first page.

Also, your diagrams are completely illegible.

WillaWonka 10-21-2010 11:41 PM

I got a friend, he can't spell worth **** but he's not dumb. Just illiterate in spelling.

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:43 PM

Whoever can't understand what I wrote:

I would like to say sorry for the third time. I haven't wrote something like that in a while. I did try my best to make it so that it would be easily understood by anyone fresh to these ideas, though I'd like to point out they are also very complex. BUT please respect the fact I took hours to write all that out, and yes, some of it was off the top of my head but it isn't like any of this is written in stone or will ever be used. I just wanted to put it out there.

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607939)
Your second reply is where you started throwing down a wall of text and calling it a "personal attack". That was on the first page.

Also, your diagrams are completely illegible.

view it in paint. It's complicated. But just follow the left side first and read the legend.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 11:47 PM

I actually tried to view it in paint the first time I saw it. The image itself had been shrunk so the text couldn't be read except for the big green words and those were even hard to read at first. Next time consider attachments or just making a powerpoint or something (whatever floats your boat :) ) I've respected it took hours but what hadn't made sense to me is If it took you so long don't you think you could have taken 10 minutes to give it a true proofreading?

defaultaccount 10-21-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607946)
I actually tried to view it in paint the first time I saw it. The image itself had been shrunk so the text couldn't be read except for the big green words and those were even hard to read at first. Next time consider attachments or just making a powerpoint or something (whatever floats your boat :) ) I've respected it took hours but what hadn't made sense to me is If it took you so long don't you think you could have taken 10 minutes to give it a true proofreading?

Thank you, I had not noticed that either. Fixed it up.

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1607940)
I got a friend, he can't spell worth **** but he's not dumb. Just illiterate in spelling.

Weird, My brother has a friend who got 4.0 GPA in school and yet he's dumb and illiterate in person.

WillaWonka 10-22-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607953)
Weird, My brother has a friend who got 4.0 GPA in school and yet he's dumb and illiterate in person.


Amazing.

Fulg0reSama 10-22-2010 12:10 AM

I know right?

defaultaccount 10-22-2010 12:34 AM

Ya, I'm not a great speller. Rather than that then take pride in it bashing people thinking its a benchmark of intelligence. Either way, Becuase anyone with a real life would call you an idiot.

It's the idea, and the way I conveyed it was fine as far as comprehension. Not the spelling errors or Grammar mistakes

Sorry and feel free to act like you're smarter than me. I was a good writer, not a very great speller. (IMAGINEATION , GREAT IDEAS ) My english teacher had a paper I wrote published in a 12 english textbook on harrison bergeron. I haven't been in school for a while so who the fudge is some 17 year old kid just starting highschool to sit there and judge me.

This is about what I posted not about how much of a pos you are.

Fulg0reSama 10-22-2010 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by defaultaccount (Post 1607962)
Ya, I'm not a great speller. Rather than that then take pride in it bashing people thinking its a benchmark of intelligence. Either way,

It's the idea. Not the way I conveyed it.

Sorry and feel free to act like you're smarter than me. I was a good writer, not a very great speller. (IMAGINEATION , GREAT IDEAS ) My english teacher had a paper I wrote published in a 12 english textbook on harrison bergeron. I haven't been in school for a while so who the fuk is some 17 year old kid just starting highschool to sit there and judge me? On how smart I am bud.

Man your asshurt bucket never comes up empty from you does it? This isn't a damn intellectual competition in any god damn way. I've been trying to be advising to you nothing more. Besides you're 21, so you've had at least 1-3 years of college correct? If you stop doing math do you suddenly forget how to do taxes in your head or how to add and subtract? No you don't and I would hope writing would be about the same. Also just starting..? Maybe you have forgotten math as well. I bet you're an intelligent person, But you're an arrogant douchebag whose pride gets hurt at the slightest comment and for someone who claims to be an adult acts more like a 12 year old child. I'm mature for my age, Nothing about brains has really been boasted about by myself.

kia345 10-22-2010 12:39 AM

I'm glad he makes it so obvious that no one has to write anything once they're out of school.


Fulgore, my fist is ready to pound yours, whenever you're ready.

fowlplay4 10-22-2010 12:40 AM

Now that we've gotten over the point that you're terrible at conveying your ideas and writing/posting, I'd just like to say that your ideas that weren't common-sense (Parties->Gangs) sucked (Being able to shoot out tires, command helicopter to view gang raid from above) or were unrealistic (Platoon/Battleground System).

Fulg0reSama 10-22-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1607964)
I'm glad he makes it so obvious that no one has to write anything once they're out of school.


Fulgore, my fist is ready to pound yours, whenever you're ready.

Same here.

defaultaccount 10-22-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607963)
Man your asshurt bucket never comes up empty from you does it? This isn't a damn intellectual competition in any god damn way. I've been trying to be advising to you nothing more. Besides you're 21, so you've had at least 1-3 years of college correct? If you stop doing math do you suddenly forget how to do taxes in your head or how to add and subtract? No you don't and I would hope writing would be about the same. Also just starting..? Maybe you have forgotten math as well. I bet you're an intelligent person, But you're an arrogant douchebag whose pride gets hurt at the slightest comment and for someone who claims to be an adult acts more like a 12 year old child. I'm mature for my age, Nothing about brains has really been boasted about by myself.






lol





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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1607966)
Same here.



stick with readin books


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