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dudeluve2 08-14-2010 06:32 PM

lol
 
I logged on at 6 am this morning to see GC as Manager and Wil Soul as GBA...so what did I miss?

jkldogg 08-14-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeluve2 (Post 1593954)
I logged on at 6 am this morning to see GC as Manager and Wil Soul as GBA...so what did I miss?

everyone got fired (again) and kinetaro is manager.

Crono 08-14-2010 06:38 PM

manager hot potato

Seeya 08-14-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1593951)
You are a close friend of his, it's obvious your opinion of his management is going to be great..

do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

dudeluve2 08-14-2010 06:47 PM

Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?

Nataxo 08-14-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeluve2 (Post 1593961)
Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?

wat

fowlplay4 08-14-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1593958)
Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC.

If a recent post about him editing logs, and allowing others to USD and covering it up are true then it is definitely a lot more than a 'few EC'.

hunterhunk 08-14-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1593958)
do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

Not exactly, Geo never abused...... Geo got fired because of an Anti-graal promise.... Which is in a person's best interest, not the server's.


Chris abused..... too much. He did do work for era, but still you weren't one of the players he constantly would use his power on. All most the players really ask for is fair game, but he never gave us that.

jkldogg 08-14-2010 06:53 PM

promise
 
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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1593964)
Not exactly, Geo never abused...... Geo got fired because of an Anti-graal promise.... Which is in a person's best interest, not the server's.

What's this "Anti-graal promise" you speak of? :confused:

salesman 08-14-2010 06:55 PM

I really hope kinetaro's acquired some motivation, else you just traded someone who was providing frequent updates for the guy with the highest staff time to not doing anything ratio.

FantasyX 08-14-2010 06:58 PM

So the PWA took a poor decision (firing Vimes when he was going to quit that day regardless) and fixed it with another poor decision (firing the new manager for his choice of staff when he sent them a list of his staff team before being hired, and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

Excellent.


Regardless, best of luck Kinetaro. :]

jkldogg 08-14-2010 07:02 PM

nicee
 
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Originally Posted by FantasyX (Post 1593968)
So the PWA took a poor decision (firing Vimes when he was going to quit that day regardless) and fixed it with another poor decision (firing the new manager for his choice of staff when he sent them a list of his staff team before being hired, and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

Excellent.


Regardless, best of luck Kinetaro. :]

nicely put ^^

Seeya 08-14-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX (Post 1593968)
and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

sounds familiar

LordSquirt 08-14-2010 07:05 PM

Isn't GC still staff there? Therefore, I don't get what's all the talk about, GC can still contribute to the server and do whatever he planned on doing.

Snakeandy7 08-14-2010 07:11 PM

I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC


Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.

salesman 08-14-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7 (Post 1593983)
Give Era back to Salesman

http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/9212/...t_want_dog.jpg

LordSquirt 08-14-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7 (Post 1593983)
I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC


Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.

yes, bring us back salesman!!!!

Snakeandy7 08-14-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1593989)

Now isn't the time for jokes!!!

Crow 08-14-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7 (Post 1593991)
Now isn't the time for jokes!!!

He obviously doesn't want to be Manager again :p I wouldn't mind though.

cbk1994 08-14-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenLies0 (Post 1593929)
Uh oh! Looks like to me Chris Vimes wanted Geo to have a taste of getting knocked off the big time like he did when he was gone. You sly devil you. :asleep:

I didn't have anything to do with this. Despite the fact that GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist, I hesitantly supported him (he had very low self confidence and didn't seem to think he'd be able to do well as manager) and I wouldn't have wanted to see him fired. He was one of the candidates I originally considered to replace me.

xXziroXx 08-14-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1593992)
He obviously doesn't want to be Manager again :p I wouldn't mind though.

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1593628)
What about me? Sure, I wasn't Manager. But hell, did I abuse when I was working on Era.

Yeah I don't think so Tim.

Supaman771 08-14-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1593994)
GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist

Why am I blacklisted?:confused::cry:

Nataxo 08-14-2010 07:28 PM

GC is Guns admin/PR atm.

jkldogg 08-14-2010 07:30 PM

Who's on the blacklist? I'm probably there cuz chris player hated on me =p

papajchris 08-14-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1593958)
do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

He spawned millions of dollars and like i said, numerous weapons.

How much EC is millions of dollars and items again? Don't act innocent Seeya, I have no doubt you got items one way or another illegally.

Until all those involved in spawning are held accountable, i refuse to work for this management.

Tigairius 08-14-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011 (Post 1593888)
Everything could of been avoided if the globals simply sat down and talked about me about all this, but instead they decide to fire me in my sleep in less of a days worth of being Manager. I could of made a change in my management list even though I thought it was approved since I sent it prior to me getting Manager... I feel cheated, but again I wish Kinetaro the best though I don't think you are active or knowledgeable enough to run Era.

I spoke to Geovanni before making any final decisions.

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1593927)
You don't even give someone a chance because OMG WIL SOUL was hired. Really? Are we going to keep someone from being staff because he has a big ego?

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous.

You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired. The entire global administration agreed that all of these choices were poor and were not in the best interest of Era.

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1593928)
So you fired a manager, and blacklisted an entire qualified staff roster because you couldn't allow Wil to be staff (Won't go into detail as to why).

Lol @ Anti-Graal reasons. Covering up by claiming staff with absolutely no rights were abusive. And pulling the favoritism card at GC when he didn't even hire half the people.

We removed Morgrim for hiring several abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners or scamming.

That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.


There is really no argument that justifies hiring the amount of people with those kinds of recent histories, period.
In the end, I know all of Geovanni's friends are going to be upset and I know that any decision that is made cannot make everyone happy.

salesman 08-14-2010 08:06 PM

To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

hunterhunk 08-14-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1594019)
I spoke to Geovanni before making any final decisions.


You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired.



I fired Morgrim for hiring his abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners.


That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.


Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.


Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.

jkldogg 08-14-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1594022)
To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

haha

Tigairius 08-14-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1594024)
Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.


Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.

I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.

Gothika 08-14-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1594024)
Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it.

How would you know for sure? Were you looking over his shoulder when he done it?

Quote:

Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone...
Read.. "You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened."

hunterhunk 08-14-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1594027)
I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.


You're avoiding the direct question here, rather than targeting Wil as an individual, you amassed him in a class not of his own. Those players and their crimes are nothing related to Wil Soul. You allowed every Admin to remain RC, except for him, why? He has absolutely no history of any abuse as an Administrator or any abuse as a player. When itemspawners were prevelant, he refused to partake in anything, even though you so gracefully jumped the gun to assume that he was and banned him. He has no abusive history, no corruption, nothing. So tell me this Tig, why is your personal priority to "blacklist" him? We all saw the comments, "Tig's Promise".

cbk1994 08-14-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1594036)
"Tig's Promise".

"Chris' Promise" is a much better read.

Sage_Shadowbane 08-14-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1594022)
To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

Whoa, huh.. ? Why has my name been brought up multiple times in this thread, yet I haven't worked on Era for at least a 5-6 months?? o.O

salesman 08-14-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage_Shadowbane (Post 1594046)
Whoa, huh.. ? Why has my name been brought up multiple times in this thread, yet I haven't worked on Era for at least a 5-6 months?? o.O

Someone said he hired you, dunno.

Sage_Shadowbane 08-14-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1594051)
Someone said he hired you, dunno.

Who hired me?? o.O Kinetaro?

Hiro 08-14-2010 09:45 PM

give me era management, i'll make all you mother****ers happy

Crow 08-14-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1593996)
Yeah I don't think so Tim.

You got me wrong, I guess. I wouldn't mind Sales to step up. Not me. I don't want to see behind the scenes stuff on Era ever again. One. F*cking. Mess.

Matt 08-14-2010 10:29 PM

It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

Best of luck to Era and it's new management.

FrozenLies0 08-14-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 1594067)
It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

Best of luck to Era and it's new management.

Agreed.

Also, if it would have just been Wil that was hired for GBA why wasn't he allowed to stay and you just removed or discuss why Geo shouldn't have hired so and so blablabla?
In my opinion, this whole thing is just screwed the #*$#*$& up.

On PWA and on player side.


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