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kia345 07-19-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1588526)
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by lost charm.

It went from an almost cubical/rounded kid's play-room table to just...a table.

Loriel 07-19-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1588484)
Gotta go out so I can't finish this right now.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2qbag5e.jpg

A little concerned about the noise/contrast, but I'll see how it works out first.
http://i25.tinypic.com/23jqqs5.jpg

I mostly like the floor, if you dial down the contrast it might be neater but it works as it is right now. But the table is all kinds of off, the original looked like a few boards of crudely-worked wood that retains its natural texture or whatever, yours has lots of additional lines that make it look like it has been worked further and yet there is still the funny lines from the original, except they now look worse because you interpreted them as rather harsh and dark. Hope this helps.

DustyPorViva 07-23-2010 12:06 PM

http://i28.tinypic.com/352rjt2.jpg

Soala 07-23-2010 12:30 PM

Nice hills!

Crono 07-23-2010 03:03 PM

omg

Crow 07-23-2010 03:47 PM

Unfortunately, the high sky contrast is lost in your version. I think you should try to give this piece the bright feel again. You know, the transition from bright blue to darker blue.

WhiteDragon 07-23-2010 04:38 PM

Great job on that last one Dusty :D

DustyPorViva 07-23-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1589226)
Unfortunately, the high sky contrast is lost in your version. I think you should try to give this piece the bright feel again. You know, the transition from bright blue to darker blue.

I'm aware and it was a conscious decision. To achieve the high contrast it would take way more colors to do it smoothly, as I originally tried to use the provided details but I felt the dithering/transition with them were way to sudden and made it look messy. I may attempt to rework that somehow, though.

The perspective of the castle is worrying the hell out of me...

DustyPorViva 07-23-2010 06:59 PM

Hmm, taking quite a bit longer to do this than I had originally thought!
http://i29.tinypic.com/2i75jqg.jpg

DustyPorViva 07-24-2010 08:30 PM

Gettin' there! Had a lot of problems with the "D" and "A" as they took the longest to do... Don't know if I'm going to apply a texture to the letters yet, we'll see.

http://i25.tinypic.com/6tmdxk.jpg

WIP for those interested:
http://i26.tinypic.com/ng7ukj.jpg

Crow 07-24-2010 08:52 PM

Planning to add anti-aliasing?

DustyPorViva 07-24-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1589411)
Planning to add anti-aliasing?

To the exterior? Thought about it. Not sure yet, as in the game the logo is drawn as a sprite so wouldn't be able to have proper AA. However, just for the sake of a better picture I might do it.

12171217 07-24-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1587219)
Indeed! :) Nice work, keep it up please. This is very nice. Maybe you can contribute this to some Zelda fan game?

I'd post a link to ZFGC (Zelda Fan Game Central), but I don't think external links are allowed.

Loriel 07-24-2010 11:31 PM

What is the link, I will post it for you

Loriel 07-24-2010 11:32 PM

Huh. I cannot find it. Odd.

fowlplay4 07-24-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1589439)
I think it is http://www.zfgc.com/

Thanks, now I can use their copyrighted sprites for my own profitable ventures.

Jiroxys7 07-28-2010 07:48 PM

Yeah I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that anyone actually using these "hi-def" LttP tiles on graal would result in Cyberjoueurs getting slapped with a big fat lawsuit.. Unless there's some exception that I'm missing?

Fulg0reSama 07-28-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590017)
Yeah I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that anyone actually using these "hi-def" LttP tiles on graal would result in Cyberjoueurs getting slapped with a big fat lawsuit.. Unless there's some exception that I'm missing?

Uh, I doubt cyberjoueurs would get sued for us using a tileset provided by a player that hasn't been uploaded to a server. Now if it was uploaded to a server for use publicly than it's possible, If they give a **** anymore.

Jiroxys7 07-28-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1590020)
Uh, I doubt cyberjoueurs would get sued for us using a tileset provided by a player that hasn't been uploaded to a server. Now if it was uploaded to a server for use publicly than it's possible, If they give a **** anymore.

Yeah, I was talking about if it was uploaded to a server.
IIRC, general rule of thumb: If no one's making money off of the copyrighted material, you can't be hit with a lawsuit. Otherwise, it's possible. Assuming it's being used without permission.

Crow 07-28-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590025)
IIRC, general rule of thumb: If no one's making money off of the copyrighted material, you can't be hit with a lawsuit. Otherwise, it's possible. Assuming it's being used without permission.

That's Nintendo's rule of thumb, I guess. Unfortunately, SquareEnix seems to follow some other rules, or otherwise this Chrono Trigger fan game wouldn't have been ditched :[ But this is going off topic..Sorry.

cbk1994 07-28-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590025)
IIRC, general rule of thumb: If no one's making money off of the copyrighted material, you can't be hit with a lawsuit. Otherwise, it's possible. Assuming it's being used without permission.

Of course you can; "fair use" requires more than just using it for non-profit activities. Cracking Adobe software and uploading it online may not be done for profit, but it's still illegal and they can still sue you.

kia345 07-28-2010 09:16 PM

Wouldn't a vastly improved tileset like what Dusty's doing now be more of a homage than anything? I'm pretty sure there are different copyright rules concerning homage/parody.

Jiroxys7 07-28-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1590048)
Of course you can; "fair use" requires more than just using it for non-profit activities. Cracking Adobe software and uploading it online may not be done for profit, but it's still illegal and they can still sue you.

Well of course pirating would be a different case. :p

But I'm talking about for example, if you rip sprites or music from say, Super Metroid and decide to use them without permission.

cbk1994 07-28-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590081)
Well of course pirating would be a different case. :p

But I'm talking about for example, if you rip sprites or music from say, Super Metroid and decide to use them without permission.

It's the same thing from a legal standpoint.

DustyPorViva 07-28-2010 11:27 PM

Like my first post said:
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It is not intended(and never will be) to actually be used in Graal.

ffcmike 07-28-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590081)
Well of course pirating would be a different case. :p

But I'm talking about for example, if you rip sprites or music from say, Super Metroid and decide to use them without permission.

It's been done here before, destiny.mid x_x.

cbk1994 07-28-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590101)
Like my first post said:

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as arguing about your work. I was talking more in general.

maximus_asinus 07-28-2010 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590101)
Like my first post said:

If you do finish the tileset, would you mind posting it? I would love to use it for my default tiles.

Loriel 07-29-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiroxys7 (Post 1590025)
IIRC, general rule of thumb: If no one's making money off of the copyrighted material, you can't be hit with a lawsuit.

I challenge everyone to find me advice on these forums that is worse than this.

DustyPorViva 07-29-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1590106)
If you do finish the tileset, would you mind posting it? I would love to use it for my default tiles.

Sure. I didn't start off converting the tileset but I've since starting putting it all into one to easily work with the tiles. I can't guarantee that they'll be 'compatible' with pics1, but I'll see what I can do.

maximus_asinus 07-29-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590114)
Sure. I didn't start off converting the tileset but I've since starting putting it all into one to easily work with the tiles. I can't guarantee that they'll be 'compatible' with pics1, but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks mate, appreciate it.

Jiroxys7 07-29-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1590110)
I challenge everyone to find me advice on these forums that is worse than this.

"Seatbelts cost more lives than they save." (I actually had another but it probably isn't too appropriate for the forums)

So I was wrong. But you didn't have to be so blunt =/

DustyPorViva 07-29-2010 06:14 AM

Hmm, I dunno which bush to use:
http://i29.tinypic.com/admdzb.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2cn89e0.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/m7ba6x.jpg

The first one I think fits in with the original and the tileset the most, but the double-thick outlines really bug me and I couldn't get it to look right with single-line thickness. However the second one I think fixes that but looks too bright for the tileset.

maximus_asinus 07-29-2010 06:18 AM

the thicker version seems more like the original anyways, but maybe try the thin version with darker colors?

Crono 07-29-2010 11:38 AM

i like the thick one

Demisis_P2P 07-29-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590209)
The first one I think fits in with the original and the tileset the most, but the double-thick outlines really bug me and I couldn't get it to look right with single-line thickness. However the second one I think fixes that but looks too bright for the tileset.

Fusssiooonnn-ha!

http://i30.tinypic.com/o8hvrt.png

DustyPorViva 07-30-2010 12:36 AM

Cookie to anyone who knows what this is:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2w73er4.jpg
Pity, shame and pox on your next generation to anyone who doesn't.

Soala 07-30-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590344)
Cookie to anyone who knows what this is:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2w73er4.jpg
Pity, shame and pox on your next generation to anyone who doesn't.

Trinex (that's his name in french)
Well that's the 3-headed boss, the last of the dark world if I recall correctly (and last before Ganondorf right?).

ffcmike 07-30-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1590344)
Cookie to anyone who knows what this is:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2w73er4.jpg
Pity, shame and pox on your next generation to anyone who doesn't.

Golem using withdraw?

Soala 07-30-2010 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1590356)
Golem using withdraw?

shame on you :P

amazing job by the way.


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