Finally someone saw what I was seeing. +rep to you asap.

Graal needs.

Advertising.

Nintendo > Graal :(

no idea lol

Apparently ~someone~ said "should be improved"

don't worry, v6 will fix all of graal!!!

For the record.

Graal stopped rocking in 2002. They called it "Graal2002".

And it sure as hell did not rock.

shouldn't have been playing a **** server then

I didn't read anyone's reply, but I totally agree with Hiro.

I was actually able to play Zone and still have fun, whereas now it has the population of 2.

:cool:

Graal will never be the same as when Galen was around.

04' Was the best for me. I remember plenty of new people and old people I could interact with, so Graal felt life like and wasn't all boring as it has become now.

I haven't had the thrill for a long time, the last spark I got were back in 06 when I started playing Graal Kingdoms, these days I get my buzz from developing.

I say to revive Graal we should show the players on Classic iPhone that there is 'PC Graal' I know we would get a lot of noobs, but in a herd of noobs, there is always a star.

I highly dought it.
v6 will be no different than v5 I'm guessing. The only way Graal will be good again is if they bring back lifetime subscriptions and give you the ability to have the account name you want, not a Graal######.
Oh, and if they downsize Graal.

What we need is another modern server with guns! If only people would begin developing one and realize it's a stupid idea.

To some extent you can measure a server's player growth by the amount of Graal###### accounts online, both Era and Zodiac have a fairly healthy amount of them. While UN has very little which leads me to believe that they aren't attracting any new players (and have a **** load of staff).

The amount of decent (uninterrupted) trial play time you can actually have on Zodiac and Era have increased dramatically with the removal of Observer Mode, and to some extent can be credited to the recent jump in the global PC playercount. Classic iPhone players do find their way on to the PC, so suggesting that they need to advertise more on the iPhone is rather pointless.

Community names in them self are not bad at all, the continued lack of support for them however is. The flaws of community names that players describe can easily be hidden and support added for it so it feels seamless.

Lifetime subscription also doesn't need to be re-added back either, Graal would be better off with a trial experience that doesn't completely castrate you like Observer Mode does and lower Gold subscription costs would also help as well.

Nothing can be done to return the community back to what it was years ago though, which is more so an adapt or move on decision that needs to be made individually.

Servers should be measured by how many scripters they attract, not new players.

I think first impressions need to be improved, both on servers and on Graal. There should be some startup screen "Welcome to Graal! Choose a server below to start playing!" on first login with a blurb and icon for each server. While on that topic, the serverlist and login screen need to be scrapped entirely. It would take a couple of hours at the most to rework them to emulate Graal v3 or 4 (assuming that's the direction to take, which it might not be—Graal has changed a lot since then).

In addition, servers need to have better starting guides. I think I'll probably start one for Era (which currently completely lacks one) soon. I know UN used to have one, and Zodiac has one (which looked good at first impression but I haven't completed).

Valikorlia definitely needs a better one. x_x

03-06 nuff said.

Mafia Life.

Did you realize it was a stupid idea yet? or what you actually quoted?

i think he missed the part about modern being called a stupid idea.

Graal hasn't changed -that much- over the years, it's the community that has drastically changed. The most noticeable change would probably be the overall maturity of the staff, globally and locally. I know there is still much immaturity going on within the ranks of many servers, but the abusiveness that made the game interesting is nowhere near as bad as it was from late 2000 (when players first got to own their own servers) up through 2005 when the average age of "higher ups" became 17 - 21 rather than 12 - 16.

I can't speak much for Unholy Nation because I always strayed away from there as it was the slums of the Graal world, but during Delteria's, N-Pulse's, and Babylon's most popular times was when there were constantly people getting fired for stuff that most people would never even think of doing nowadays. Delteria was the best for this sort of entertainment, the climax being when Smooth and Zega took over the server by removing everybody else's RC rights and then proceeded to delete everything in the FTP folders. There was also the time when somebody uploaded "NAT Boots" into everyone's weapons inventory, and when everyone got summoned to a level that reset their kills/deaths/spar rating. I do remember Classic having its own fun times during this period of time with Tyhm as LAT Admin. He did some pretty crazy stuff, although I can't think of any of it off the top of my head.

This abuse also lead down into the guild community, certain servers essentially becoming run by certain guilds. This lead to even further abuse, where people would trump up random reasons to throw people into "jail" to gain an advantage in a PK war, or even going as far as having guild leaders and major members banned for the duration of the fights.

But alas, all of this was very stupid and childish, reading this post you are probably thinking "none of that sounds very fun" however I recognize quite a few names of people in this thread and I know most of you were logged on during these occasions and were having just as much fun as I was arguing about how messed up it was over mass messages. Many of the people who did this crazy abusive stuff are still in power, though like I said earlier they became "older" 5 years ago, now being even more mature they have all taken steps to ensure the things we used to do will never happen again.

I read in a thread a few weeks ago that Hell Raven is now a Global Admin. I'm not gonna knock the choice, in fact knowing the kind of person he is I think it was a great decision but this alone should show you just how little Graal has changed in comparison to how much all of us have changed. The same things that entertained us back then would only annoy and frustrate us now. What's the solution? Well you can accept that you can no longer enjoy the things you used to about this game even if the same corrupt people were in charge and had not changed one bit, thus forcing yourself to move forward with your life and maybe taking a new perspective at Graal as a development platform. Unless you find endless hours of sparring and pking fun, there aint much Graal has left to offer most of the older players.


As for you younger players, if you're as bored with Graal as some of us bickering "oldbies" then -act- mature in order to get yourself a staff job, rise through the ranks to get more and more power and once you get enough of it, abuse all the power you have as much as you can while you still have it. I guarantee you will enjoy yourself and give many other people quite a few hours of entertaining conversation.

Delteria was the first server ever, that I called home on Graal. The first time I obtained a staff position was on Delteria, and I was hired by Smooth Criminal, when he was Events Chief. I was only in 6th grade at the time, and I am now 22 years old. But, it was the funniest times of my life on a PC game.

In my personal opinion, I believe the down fall was when you had to start paying for Graal. Before Gold, and all that stuff. When it was just a download, account creation, and boom...Graal.

I remember the last day before you had to upgrade your account with a one time fee. Everybody was saying good bye, and a lot of players were leaving, most of them I considered the best players on Graal. But one thing was for sure, TNR and MHX battles were the best PK wars on Delteria.

Ans as Chance mentioned, its probably because we all have grown up and we aren't enjoying it as much as we did when we were younger. Mostly because of our immaturity at that time. But I seem to always come back, hoping Graal will be as good as it was when I played way back when.

*drops single tear*

You were 13 years old in 6th grade?

Graal needs to go back to being one server only

No.

how is this a good idea

I apologize, 8th grade. =)

graal needs to give me global RC and all of your issues would be dissolved.

upload trojan too all servers :cool: