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Vima 02-24-2010 04:04 PM

This is ridiculous. I don't understand, why go public when obviously this haven't been discussed with Streety? I mean this is just nonsense! If there is going to be a war against two servers, then the managers on each side needs to discuss this before they dump something like that in our faces. It's not fair to the other server and it's really not fair to the players.

Soala 02-24-2010 05:16 PM

This server war is a complete joke, really.

salesman 02-24-2010 06:17 PM

i guess era's administration didn't realize that war was supposed to be planned out ahead of time and be all friendly and sissy-like

xXziroXx 02-24-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1558441)
i guess era's administration didn't realize that war was supposed to be planned out ahead of time and be all friendly and sissy-like

The point is that you could've (and should've) made a forum thread about it instead of throwing it in the face of the rest of Graal's population. Not to mention how extremely boring these oversized news images are getting :\

Immolate 02-24-2010 07:22 PM

In the past, server wars were mainly spontaneous without planning, though the news on login feature didn't exist back then.

cbk1994 02-25-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1558408)
This is ridiculous. I don't understand, why go public when obviously this haven't been discussed with Streety? I mean this is just nonsense! If there is going to be a war against two servers, then the managers on each side needs to discuss this before they dump something like that in our faces. It's not fair to the other server and it's really not fair to the players.

Why would it be discussed with Streety? We challenged Unholy Nation to a series of cross-server events, and rather than accepting, they tried to call us out on being "unprofessional" and used that as an excuse for declining.

It is a shame, though, that Unholy Nation overreacted so much. I was looking forward to the events :(

Switch 02-25-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1558548)
We challenged Unholy Nation to a series of cross-server events, and rather than accepting, they tried to call us out on being "unprofessional" and used that as an excuse for declining.

Did I miss something?

HelpingAtStuff 02-25-2010 12:47 AM

Well either way, a Modern server has nothing to do with a Classic.

UN should challenge N-Pul..nvm

cbk1994 02-25-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1558567)
Did I miss something?

Apparently.

LordSquirt 02-25-2010 12:58 AM

I think a lot of you don't know what you're talking about. The purpose of the event was to get repersenitives from both servers to participate in some server events. However, everything would be fair for both servers. That means that the Era players can only use the same gun as UN players and they would all have the same stats, i.e. speed, strength, ammo, guns, etc.

On UN the Era players most likely would only need the 13HP/3sword stats.

Then the players would have some events hosted on both UN and Era. The events would include both PK and Non-PK events and then the winner could have custom guildtag, guildhat, weapon, etc.

Also, let me also mention that this would in no way stop the development of the server. What I purposed to do would use events/things already on the server. While yes, their might have to be some small adjustments made nothing too drastic.

I honestly don't mind that Streety said no though. It's his choice and I'm not going to condemn him for it. However, some of you guys don't know what you're talking about.

HelpingAtStuff 02-25-2010 01:01 AM

And did this ever happen? I dont recall it being announced.

Nataxo 02-25-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HelpingAtStuff (Post 1558580)
And did this ever happen? I dont recall it being announced.

Logged in on Graal lately?:o

salesman 02-25-2010 01:07 AM

repersentin' era yo

sizzle1989 02-25-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1558588)
repersentin' era yo

This

HelpingAtStuff 02-25-2010 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1558582)
Logged in on Graal lately?:o

Everyday, yo. !pissed!

evilchaseofdoom 02-25-2010 02:05 AM

Why is there no Graalympics? That would be intense. Like Zodiac, Era, UN and Classic of course all competing.

SwimChao 02-25-2010 02:44 AM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with cross-server events to "stimulate" the game's player base. However, the way the Era administration executed their "challenge" resulted in Era players on UN harassing staff, and other players; with Era administration egging them on by saying things like "Streety won't ban anyone for fear of losing players".

Because of the way they brought this to fruition, I will not be sponsoring any cross-server events at all. I was excited about the idea of Graalympics way back when managers from classic servers talked about it like 7 or 8 months ago; now I want nothing to do with it.

I want to stay as far away from the administration of other servers as possible, and just focus on UN. It's not about watering the "fight" down, or being a sissy at all. It's entirely centric on the immaturity, and lack of professionalism that Era's staff displayed.


On another note, I realize that my own staff base got a little rowdy when the group from Era came to UN. I will be teaching them how to avoid such conflict in future scenarios. It was uncalled for.

cbk1994 02-25-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SwimChao (Post 1558609)
I want to stay as far away from the administration of other servers as possible, and just focus on UN. It's not about watering the "fight" down, or being a sissy at all. It's entirely centric on the immaturity, and lack of professionalism that Era's staff displayed.

I don't mind that you want to focus on UN, but don't try to pin it on Era. Your staff and players were muting, renicking, and banning players for a joke, not to mention returning the exact same insults over masses and in-game chat.

I also don't blame you in particular; I know that almost all of the overreactions were carried about by staff simply caught up in the heat of the moment, but that's no reason to continue some crusade in making Era look like an enemy, especially when it was only a minority of Era's players breaking any rules or conduct codes.

Graal is a game, lighten up a bit.

evilchaseofdoom 02-25-2010 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1558615)
I don't mind that you want to focus on UN, but don't try to pin it on Era. Your staff and players were muting, renicking, and banning players for a joke, not to mention returning the exact same insults over masses and in-game chat.

I also don't blame you in particular; I know that almost all of the overreactions were carried about by staff simply caught up in the heat of the moment, but that's no reason to continue some crusade in making Era look like an enemy, especially when it was only a minority of Era's players breaking any rules or conduct codes.

Graal is a game, lighten up a bit.

Classic vs Era, this Friday @ 8 PM, count on it.

HelpingAtStuff 02-25-2010 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by evilchaseofdoom (Post 1558617)
Classic vs Era, this Friday @ 8 PM, count on it.

That's worst then Valikorlia vs. Zodiac :noob:

ffcmike 02-25-2010 04:12 AM

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CharlieM 02-25-2010 04:22 AM

tbh, I was the one getting players to mass it wasn't the administration, I'm not even staff on era unless you count ET. The administration got them on era sure, but I'm the one who got them to spam, for some reason UN thought it was Squirt and banned him..Streety just accept the challenge, its good PR for both servers, both should be mature about it from now on but seriously..

Switch 02-25-2010 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1558571)
Apparently.

Apparently not.
If this is what happened,
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Originally Posted by SwimChao (Post 1558609)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with cross-server events to "stimulate" the game's player base. However, the way the Era administration executed their "challenge" resulted in Era players on UN harassing staff, and other players; with Era administration egging them on by saying things like "Streety won't ban anyone for fear of losing players".

then there was no real challenge except Era players and staff harassing UN. It's ok to actually PROPOSE SOMETHING and, in light humor, say "Era will win," but when you get a bunch of players to go on UN, say Era will win, spam us, call us names, and then NOT EVEN PROPOSE ANYTHING, then that's taking it too far too soon.

MysticX2X 02-25-2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1558615)
I don't mind that you want to focus on UN, but don't try to pin it on Era. Your staff and players were muting, renicking, and banning players for a joke, not to mention returning the exact same insults over masses and in-game chat.

Sorry that the GP's couldnt notice 3 or 4 people (who didnt have their nicks set to "UN SUCKS") out of the 20-30 massing. UN players massed in retaliation.

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I also don't blame you in particular; I know that almost all of the overreactions were carried about by staff simply caught up in the heat of the moment, but that's no reason to continue some crusade in making Era look like an enemy, especially when it was only a minority of Era's players breaking any rules or conduct codes.
How was that a minority? I practically saw half of the active players doing so, and you were egging them on.

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Graal is a game, lighten up a bit.
Yeah it is a game, but it doesn't mean you should disrupt another server for fun and games.

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1558629)
tbh, I was the one getting players to mass it wasn't the administration, I'm not even staff on era unless you count ET. The administration got them on era sure, but I'm the one who got them to spam, for some reason UN thought it was Squirt and banned him..Streety just accept the challenge, its good PR for both servers, both should be mature about it from now on but seriously..

It was the fact that Chris and squirt encouraged this matter, which happened to turn out completely immature. If UN wanted to challenge Era, a thread or even possible conversation with UN staff could of been more appropriate. I don't think Streety was being a wuss at all when he declined.

If it was up to me, I would have Era Administration reviewed on server diplomacy.

maximus_asinus 02-25-2010 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1558638)
Yeah it is a game, but it doesn't mean you should disrupt another server for fun and games.

yeah guys, no fun and games on this game.

MysticX2X 02-25-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1558661)
yeah guys, no fun and games on this game.

Harassing others can be fun and games for somebody else. Do you condone that as well?

papajchris 02-25-2010 05:58 AM

If UN's staff got upset that Era's players said UN sucks then honestly, all you UN players need to get some self-esteem. Your server ego got hurt? Now before you say im supporting Era, that's not true. If Squirt/Chris really did send people over to spam UN, then that is very very unprofessional. But lets be honest, on UN 90% of mass messages are spam anyways or inappropriate. Also, I see streety's reason for not wanting to participate, but then i see the other side that makes me think he actually is not acting mature, as he appears scarred for life because of this action as he wants to be so far away from these "events". This event was ruined by both sides actions, but neither side should be holding a grudge, like someone said, at the end of the day it is just a game.

Demisis_P2P 02-25-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1558665)
If UN's staff got upset that Era's players said UN sucks then honestly, all you UN players need to get some self-esteem.

UN is full of emos and goths.
eg. Malinko.

FuManchu 02-25-2010 10:27 AM

Do you do anything other then assume things?
Era's own Scelus family was full or more goth and emo kids then UN has ever had.

Demisis_P2P 02-25-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FuManchu (Post 1558716)
Do you do anything other then assume things?
Era's own Scelus family was full or more goth and emo kids then UN has ever had.

We killed them. Then they went to UN.

And I do lots of other stuff, assuming doesn't take much time.

LordSquirt 02-25-2010 01:44 PM

Let me just say this before you go all hating on Era.

Era players for the majority were just saying ERA WILL WIN!!!!!, and setting their tags to era is better than UN. There is nothing wrong about that. Then the UN players started to goad them into doing worse things. For example, the PR Admin stated that Era players are illiterate retards who couldn't count. Honestly, what do you expect the era people to do? Just sit there and take that? I don't think so. Also, he was supposed to be a highly respected individual on the server and instead he goes to these pity masses. Chris and me did nothing that should condone us.

Also, the whole thing was a joke so grow up. I already told Streety I was sorry and apologized about what happened, but this shouldn't be taken overboard by both servers.

CharlieM 02-25-2010 02:38 PM

I'd like to mention I got called an emo and was told to kill myself..srs guys? I massed the link to the forums and said era will win. my nick wasn't even anything because I didnt like the spam nick everyone was using. UN needs to chill, this wasn't anything serious whatsoever. It was meant to be fun, and you blew it out of proportions because UN is Dahrahhhhhmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa zone half the time.

Switch 02-25-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1558764)
Also, he was supposed to be a highly respected individual on the server and instead he goes to these pity masses.

Flares is LOL.

Heroin 03-06-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1558661)
yeah guys, no fun and games on this game.

ya squirt, how dare you try to bring fun back to graal when people clearly want to idle and complain about how there's nothing to do?

joel34 03-06-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1558696)
UN is full of emos and goths.
eg. Malinko.

Maybe you should go on there and check again?

Malinko quit like 2 years ago.

Also this joke is a war, I dont know why Era players are gangsters and say LOL WE WONZ and act retarded 3 year old kids.

Not saying Era is a bad server, They are acting retards when it goes to this war.

joel34 03-06-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwimChao (Post 1558609)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with cross-server events to "stimulate" the game's player base. However, the way the Era administration executed their "challenge" resulted in Era players on UN harassing staff, and other players; with Era administration egging them on by saying things like "Streety won't ban anyone for fear of losing players".

Because of the way they brought this to fruition, I will not be sponsoring any cross-server events at all. I was excited about the idea of Graalympics way back when managers from classic servers talked about it like 7 or 8 months ago; now I want nothing to do with it.

I want to stay as far away from the administration of other servers as possible, and just focus on UN. It's not about watering the "fight" down, or being a sissy at all. It's entirely centric on the immaturity, and lack of professionalism that Era's staff displayed.


On another note, I realize that my own staff base got a little rowdy when the group from Era came to UN. I will be teaching them how to avoid such conflict in future scenarios. It was uncalled for.

Thank god, An Era player got on me and spammed me nonstop in PMS with :D

coreys 03-06-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joel34 (Post 1560808)
Thank god, An Era player got on me and spammed me nonstop in PMS with :D

Some people spam the smileys because it crashes some people. Probably something that should be fixed...

Dragonosteel 03-06-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1558764)
For example, the PR Admin stated that Era players are illiterate retards who couldn't count. Honestly, what do you expect the era people to do? Just sit there and take that? I don't think so. Also, he was supposed to be a highly respected individual on the server and instead he goes to these pity masses.

I lol'd because this isn't even the first time he's done something like this.

joel34 03-09-2010 10:45 PM

The war ( or Super insulting montage ) is over now. This can be locked.

Crono 03-09-2010 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwimChao (Post 1558609)
Because of the way they brought this to fruition, I will not be sponsoring any cross-server events at all. I was excited about the idea of Graalympics way back when managers from classic servers talked about it like 7 or 8 months ago; now I want nothing to do with it.

I want to stay as far away from the administration of other servers as possible, and just focus on UN. It's not about watering the "fight" down, or being a sissy at all. It's entirely centric on the immaturity, and lack of professionalism that Era's staff displayed.

So because one server (Era of all places as well, srsly vimes) acted this way you want nothing to do with any cross-server events with the rest of the community?


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