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kia345 10-13-2009 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante396 (Post 1529828)
And like I said it's not easy to find an extremely skilled active developer.

Yeah, especially when you're known to be a horrible person to work with

Clockwork 10-13-2009 05:23 AM

I only see supernanny trying to get positions to climb the ladder. He'll take anything he can get, starting with zone faq, then manager, then zone mod, then forum mod, then News admin, then Supermod.

~.~

Switch 10-13-2009 05:33 AM

Taking a quick LOL at this thread.
By the way, YOU aren't getting manager, no matter how many time you say "I'm active and I have good ideas!"

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Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1529796)
Supermanager.

Superpooper.

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Originally Posted by Dante396 (Post 1529800)
I don't think he's going to want to play with himself.

:blush:

Liberated 10-13-2009 07:42 AM

Even if he isn't doing the greatest job, could you find someone both capable and willing to do a better job? I highly doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1529835)
I only see supernanny trying to get positions to climb the ladder. He'll take anything he can get, starting with zone faq, then manager, then zone mod, then forum mod, then News admin, then Supermod.

~.~

Well, he must've done something right to get this far, don't you think?

Crono 10-13-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1529859)
Well, he must've done something right to get this far, don't you think?

Nope.

Elk 10-13-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAppircesKid (Post 1529824)
Well they haven't and if updates don't help, and you say in-game staff won't help? what or who will?..are you waiting for Obama to become manager or something... i can't wait that long...

I wont let that happen

RebelArbiter 10-13-2009 09:28 AM

Wonder why he hasn't deleted this yet.

bahamutstevetff 10-13-2009 10:14 AM

how much can supernanny do with little Dev skills, im sure he does more than moaning pisstards like you see.

Elizabeth 10-13-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1529859)
Well, he must've done something right to get this far, don't you think?

hmm, maybe i'll try sucking up too!

bahamutstevetff 10-13-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1529894)
hmm, maybe i'll try sucking up too!

you like tottally should man!

kia345 10-13-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1529881)
how much can supernanny do with little Dev skills, im sure he does more than moaning pisstards like you see.

He doesn't do any. The fact is, he's a terrible regardless of the position he's in. A prime example would be as a forum mod

bahamutstevetff 10-13-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1529917)
He doesn't do any. The fact is, he's a terrible regardless of the position he's in. A prime example would be as a forum mod

hes always helped me when ive needed it.

we just have to wait for updates, if their crap blame supernanny, if thier good praise the dev staff, which is what will happen since everyone seems to have it in for SN.

DuBsTeRmAn 10-13-2009 05:49 PM

I think hes a pretty good manager, But at the same time i can't really say.. Because far as i know nothing has happend?

Pelikano 10-13-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1529955)
I think hes a pretty good manager, But at the same time i can't really say.. Because far as i know nothing has happend?

How is he a good manager if nothing happened?

Damn.

DuBsTeRmAn 10-13-2009 07:08 PM

Because.

Pelikano 10-13-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1529975)
Because.

wow so cool

Feonix 10-13-2009 07:54 PM

I think SN is doing a good job as manager. Sure you might not think he's a good
manager but pfft, atleast he's Trying.

TheAppircesKid 10-13-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1529982)
I think SN is doing a good job as manager

What has he done so far that you think is good? I certainly haven't seen anything good for the last couple of months.

Feonix 10-13-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAppircesKid (Post 1529985)
What has he done so far that you think is good? I certainly haven't seen anything good for the last couple of months.

well to me he's a good manager. He was always there for me when i
needed help or had a question, Mostly everytime i log on he's there.
So he must be working hard :)

TheAppircesKid 10-13-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1529986)
well to me he's a good manager. He was always there for me when i
needed help or had a question, Mostly everytime i log on he's there.
So he must be working hard :)

Again with no proof, WHAT has he DONE TO ZONE to make it more enjoyable for players so they stick around ?....Nothing..

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1529986)
He was always there for me when i needed help or had a question

That's not his main job, there is an FAQ for that

DustyPorViva 10-13-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1529986)
well to me he's a good manager. He was always there for me when i
needed help or had a question, Mostly everytime i log on he's there.
So he must be working hard :)

That makes him a good FAQ.

Shadow5596321 10-13-2009 09:41 PM

inb4wallsoftext

Okay let's see here

Nothing major has been released in god knows how long. Dan started to decline and Jesse if you really think that when Dan and you quit it killed Zone. It didn't really, it was already dead all you did was host events like crazy giving us somewhat of a temporary boost in the playercount. When Dan quit joy was given to the players (or the ones that still played). I'm also pretty sure you guys released a broken weapon at one point.

Some ways to improve Zone:
1. Don't throw every new weapon into the god damn Grelat system. All the overpowered **** gets thrown into the mix with it and if you guys do ever release a new weapon to the players thats not on the Grelat system its completely underpowered. Quit doing that.

2. Solid content. Really? Whatever happened to "mission" planet that was planned atleast five years ago.

3. Teasers. Give us teasers, quit being "OMFGWTFBBQ GET OUTTA MY ROOM MOM YOU CAN'T SEE THIS" attitude.

4. Re-do the old content. Yes, RE DO IT. Just don't make it complete crap like what Raven tried to do with iricia.

5. Go back to #1 and re-read through everything.

Also, Sean why the hell are you on that account?

Feonix 10-13-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1530012)

Also, Sean why the hell are you on that account?

are you talking about Apprices kid? cus i thought that was Pimp rofl

Shadow5596321 10-13-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1530017)
are you talking about Apprices kid? cus i thought that was Pimp rofl

I'm pretty sure its Sean because of that "rawrz"

Dante55555 10-13-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1529870)
Nope.

You stud.

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Originally Posted by Feonix (Post 1529982)
I think SN is doing a good job as manager. Sure you might not think he's a good
manager but pfft, atleast he's Trying.

That's true. I stuck to the concept that you should get out of a system what you put into it. I got sick of Dan and Stefan not working with me on things so I left. Kudos to SN for sticking with it, even with an ex-staff member trying to start a campaign against him.



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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1530021)
I'm pretty sure its Sean because of that "rawrz"

It's JOK3RZLEADER.

IXIs_Last_Stand 10-13-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1530021)
I'm pretty sure its Sean because of that "rawrz"

It's PIMP but, regardless of who it is, hes got a point.

SN hasn't done much for Zone. Squads we're finished a while before he got admin.

I don't remember the last day I saw some big event on Zone like there use to be. It isn't that hard to plan something and host it.

You guys keep saying hes a good manager but hes on alot and helps you out, so am I, and so are alot of players on Graal.

Also, SN didn't take advantage of the squads and host guild events with them. Squads was mainly created so that trials could participate in guild events but since not much was done with squads, players got bored of them and the player count went down again.

MagikMasterMind 10-13-2009 11:04 PM

We made some big prize events attempts without any succes, the playercount wasn't even reaching 20. Also, how can we host guild vs server if it's 2 on 2.. It's pretty lame ._.

And that's not PIMP guys, trust me.

anubis_wing 10-13-2009 11:18 PM

I say, if you think he's doing a bad job. Get into the system, do a better job and become manager!

jkool666 10-13-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1529859)
Well, he must've done something right to get this far, don't you think?

Backstabbing, sucking up and being two faced can obviously get you a longgg way :P.

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1530033)
Also, how can we host guild vs server if it's 2 on 2.. It's pretty lame ._.

You can't, Squads were released at the wrong time.

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1530033)
And that's not PIMP guys, trust me.

I would think Shadow knows better, as he is friends with PIMP IRL. But on the other hand, TheAppircesKid sounds nothing like PIMP when he argues with me.

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1530012)
and Jesse if you really think that when Dan and you quit it killed Zone. It didn't really, it was already dead all you did was host events like crazy giving us somewhat of a temporary boost in the playercount.

First I want to say you sound nothing like the owner of that account, he has far better grammar. Second, you're right, me and Dan quitting only dug Zones grave further into the ground. But you are right, it was definetly already in the ground when we quit.

TheAppircesKid 10-13-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1530024)
Kudos to SN for sticking with it, even with an ex-staff member trying to start a campaign against him.

It's not about me being an ex-staff memeber or not, i didn't pick SN to be manager but that's another story...

This thread was to mainly find out who agreed with me and disagreed. Many people who tried to say he's done a good job or is a good manager haven't really pointed out what he has done that is good, they simply just responded by saying "because" or "he has helped me". You and and Jesse are the only ones with reasonable arguments with which i still disagree

Either way sticking up with it or not is his problem, no one has a gun next to his head and is forcing him to do this. 2-3 MONTHS is A LOT of time, and he hasn't gotten any decent things on there, Before i was "removed" as ET, there was a bunch of stuff Gambet had nearly completed and SN still hasn't released them (this can date back to mid-August). SN even made his own jumprace paltform like 6-7 months ago, God knows what happened to that idea.

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind (Post 1530033)
And that's not PIMP guys, trust me.

It is PIMP, but most of you already knew tht (there was a reason why i posted on this account)

jkool666 10-13-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAppircesKid (Post 1530041)
It is PIMP, but most of you already knew tht (there was a reason why i posted on this account)

Oh you sneaky little....... xD.

In some ways I'd say Supernanny is a bad Manager, in other ways I'd say hes a good one. Pimp, you've never dealt with Stefan directly to much. It is extremely hard to get him to do ANYTHING, and with his new attitude (hes happy if Graal pays for itself, doesn't wanna put much time into it) SN must be having a HELL of a time. If Stefan still wanted to develop things for Graal, I'm sure we would see more progress.

MagikMasterMind 10-13-2009 11:22 PM

So Sean gave you his account? Ackk! I'm pretty sure Sean used this account then.

bahamutstevetff 10-14-2009 12:15 AM

i dont see what more SN can do for the development of the server except push the dev staff and wait.

kia345 10-14-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1530069)
i dont see what more SN can do for the development of the server except push the dev staff and wait.

He could actually develop, or hire people willing to develop, or step down so someone more competent can take over

bahamutstevetff 10-14-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1530070)
He could actually develop, or hire people willing to develop, or step down so someone more competent can take over

even some of the current zone developers are hardly willing to develop, apparently its "uninspiring" to work on zone, maybe he cant develop himself IDK.

pooper200000 10-14-2009 12:25 AM

I've let this thread run its course.

I understand some of you have problems with me and I'll try to be addressing these in the near future. I'm sure some of you are aware this type of thread isn't allowed on the forums (Due to Stefan not wanting threads that bash staff on the forums), and I've already overexceeded my bounds by asking the other moderators to leave this thread for as long as it has been allowed.

If you have any individual complaints or concerns that you weren't able to post, please forum PM me the posts.


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