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Crow 08-15-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1340192)
good morning ;o

G'Morning Chompy :P

Chompy 08-15-2007 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1340195)
G'Morning Chompy :P

rc? ;o :p

smirt362 08-15-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1340173)
fixed the bridge a bit

:confused: Where :confused:

Spark910 08-15-2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1340125)
I wanted to do that, but it's impossible currently :(
I already had the idea planned and how I'd do it, but Graal just isn't capable of doing the necessary things, like cropping ani's and vertical/horizontal flipping.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5...tiongifmt1.gif

If EVERY water has shallow water before deep, could you not edit the gani?

Elk 08-16-2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1340211)
:confused: Where :confused:

log in lol

Crono 08-16-2007 12:25 AM

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Sexy bridge.

Elk's edit (below) is rounder and seems to be lighter. Much better and very very nice.

smirt362 08-16-2007 12:43 AM

Ooooh.

Switch 08-16-2007 01:13 AM

It looks hott no offense :( ;)

haunter 08-16-2007 01:53 AM

Have you figured out how the character's swimming animation will work? or will characters not be able to enter deep water?

DustyPorViva 08-16-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark910 (Post 1340338)
If EVERY water has shallow water before deep, could you not edit the gani?

Hmm, well I'm not getting what you're trying to say.
The limitations that hold back the reflections I had in mind were:
  • Cropping showani's. Needed for the effect I did, though for static reflections, I guess it could work without.
  • Tile layers need to be able to have specified levels(ie, over the player, under). That way I could make the reflection surface layer 0, grass and such layer 2, and the reflection itself between it. That way the reflection would 'disappear' under the grass when the player walks from water to grass. Currently you can only achieve this effect with a GUI, and that's a pain-staking process and it's not even smooth(updating the player's x/y to screenx/y is laggy for some reason). This effect could technically be possible by cropping the reflection accordingly depending on the tile it's on, but even then, there is still no cropping.
  • Flipping images/showani's. Currently you can only rotate, and that causes the player's shield and such to be on the wrong side.
  • Lastly, at least with rotations, the showani is offset a lot when it's rotated. The idle is shown directly under the player, then if you walk, it shifts a little to the bottom-right, and if you swing a sword, it just shoots away. I dunno if this would happen with flipping though.

Switch 08-16-2007 02:21 AM

Slate (Dusty) complain to Stefan. Start a riot, if you will.

zokemon 08-16-2007 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1340388)
  • Tile layers need to be able to have specified levels(ie, over the player, under). That way I could make the reflection surface layer 0, grass and such layer 2, and the reflection itself between it. That way the reflection would 'disappear' under the grass when the player walks from water to grass. Currently you can only achieve this effect with a GUI, and that's a pain-staking process and it's not even smooth(updating the player's x/y to screenx/y is laggy for some reason). This effect could technically be possible by cropping the reflection accordingly depending on the tile it's on, but even then, there is still no cropping.

I'm gonna start a "patition" of sorts maybe on the wiki (if I can get permission to put such a thing on there) so if you agree that this is a feature for tilelayers that is super super important, contact me! (Applys to everyone) If we get enough people wanting this, maybe that can convince Stefan of its importance. I know that he won't be able to do it by the next Graal version though since his agenda for updates is already pretty booked (lots of bug fixes such as the playerlist lag) and I have to agree that those are probably more important then this.

Crow 08-16-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter (Post 1340383)
Have you figured out how the character's swimming animation will work? or will characters not be able to enter deep water?

For now we have decided that players cannot swim. Maybe we will change that later, who knows.

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 10:05 AM

Aw, that's too bad. Graal is like the only 2d mmorpg I've ever played where you could swim.

Horrified 08-16-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1340452)
For now we have decided that players cannot swim. Maybe we will change that later, who knows.

:(

That's like making a 2000 level GMap to only use 700 of the not-water tiles.

Shakram 08-16-2007 12:00 PM

yeah think about the question why you need to swim ?
there is no open gmap you can swim around
how i said we use small gmaps hanging together so there will
be no empty lvls only filled with water
the work to do swimming is to large for the minimal effect it brings
its like wow i can swim and now ?

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 12:53 PM

Well, I kind of wanted to transform into a mermaid fairy goddess and rule the underwater kingdom. :\

Codein 08-16-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1340359)
Sexy bridge.

Elk's edit (below) is rounder and seems to be lighter. Much better and very very nice.

The posts keeping the bridge in place are all in the centre of the bricks aswell.

Chompy 08-16-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340475)
Well, I kind of wanted to transform into a mermaid fairy goddess and rule the underwater kingdom. :\

O.o

Codein 08-16-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340475)
Well, I kind of wanted to transform into a mermaid fairy goddess and rule the underwater kingdom. :\

Jesus christ man, you're campest person I've ever met. Even for a homosexual.

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 01:47 PM

What does that even mean? Camping is ugly

Codein 08-16-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340483)
What does that even mean? Camping is ugly

>_>

It means, you act more like a girl than any other homosexual who acts like a girl I've ever met. Hell, you act more than a girl than some girls I know. Mind you, the clarity on their sex too isn't all that known either...

Chompy 08-16-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1340484)
>_>

It means, you act more like a girl than any other homosexual who acts like a girl I've ever met. Hell, you act more than a girl than some girls I know. Mind you, the clarity on their sex too isn't all that known either...

I wish I could put that in my sig O.o

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 02:16 PM

Oh, well... what do I say to that?

Codein 08-16-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340492)
Oh, well... what do I say to that?

I don't know. You shouldn't have to say anything. Mate, you don't even have to be insulted. It's like the cool new thing to act like a girl these days =p

ChrizP2P 08-16-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1340493)
I don't know. You shouldn't have to say anything. Mate, you don't even have to be insulted. It's like the cool new thing to act like a girl these days =p

So your saying it's cool to be emo >_<

Codein 08-16-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrizP2P (Post 1340495)
So your saying it's cool to be emo >_<

Most definitely not. What I'm saying is...they're taking over the god damn world. Soon I'll have to fend them off with a 12 Gauge on front lawn >_>

ChrizP2P 08-16-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1340496)
Most definitely not. What I'm saying is...they're taking over the god damn world. Soon I'll have to fend them off with a 12 Gauge on front lawn >_>

Sounds fun :D if you ever get that urge, invite me :)

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 02:35 PM

I hate it :( Every guy I see now sets off my ***dar and then it turns out he's not ***, just "emo".

EDIT: I still don't understand why *** is censored but lesbian, homosexual & transexual aren't. x_x

Codein 08-16-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340501)
I hate it :( Every guy I see now sets off my ***dar and then it turns out he's not ***, just "emo".

EDIT: I still don't understand why *** is censored but lesbian, homosexual & transexual aren't. x_x

lol irl @ ***dar

Also, because I haven't heard anyone insult someone on here by saying like:

"WHAT ARE YOU DOING, YOU TRANSEXUAL?! GTFO"

ChrizP2P 08-16-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340501)
I hate it :( Every guy I see now sets off my ***dar and then it turns out he's not ***, just "emo".

EDIT: I still don't understand why *** is censored but lesbian, homosexual & transexual aren't. x_x

huh? arnt most emo's homosexual?

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 02:48 PM

Oh god, you haven't seen anyone insult me yet then. Believe me, transexual is used more than *** as an insult for me.

And nope, most teen ***s I know of are typical rap/pop loving "queen *****" Jack from Will & Grace types. I mean yea there are plenty of *** emos but usually the ones I see are like, straight, straight EDGE and christian. My best friend dated a "scene kid" once.. he straightened his hair, wore girl pants, etc but talked about how manly he was and how he's never lost a fight. He even said he was gonna kick her ex-bf who was like, 300lbs, and he's like.. 90lbs. But she dumped him once she found out he was an illegal immigrant. Kids these days, huh?

Codein 08-16-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNolan (Post 1340504)
Oh god, you haven't seen anyone insult me yet then. Believe me, transexual is used more than *** as an insult for me.

And nope, most teen ***s I know of are typical rap/pop loving "queen *****" Jack from Will & Grace types. I mean yea there are plenty of *** emos but usually the ones I see are like, straight, straight EDGE and christian. My best friend dated a "scene kid" once.. he straightened his hair, wore girl pants, etc but talked about how manly he was and how he's never lost a fight. He even said he was gonna kick her ex-bf who was like, 300lbs, and he's like.. 90lbs. But she dumped him once she found out he was an illegal immigrant. Kids these days, huh?

LOL! That scene kid should come to the UK so I can kick his ass >_>

You get called a transsexual? Wow.

Tom 08-16-2007 03:03 PM

i straighten my hair rofl Looks good >.>

Codein 08-16-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 1340508)
i straighten my hair rofl Looks good >.>

I don't need to. It's perfectly straight...naturally. And naturally black aswell.

Felix_Xenophobe 08-16-2007 03:26 PM

Esteria returns! How lovely!

xXziroXx 08-16-2007 04:19 PM

I feel sorry for you Angelu, these.. bastards! stole your thread.

Crono 08-16-2007 04:19 PM

ChrisNolan isn't homosexual. He's just "transgendered", but enough of that since I think it's illegal to discuss it (we're all kids, remember?).

I agree with Shakram's decision, swimming is not needed.

ChrisNolan 08-16-2007 04:35 PM

Haha, see what I mean Codein? Actually,

ChrisNolan isn't "transgendered", he's just homosexual. If I was transgendered I would have self-identification as female which I do not.

Codein 08-16-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1340518)
I feel sorry for you Angelu, these.. bastards! stole your thread.

It was early. I needed a natter whilst I had a cup of tea =(


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