So i guess that didnt cross your mind when you made minish cap style tileset?\

You are Rufus for sure btw. Our conversations proves from in-game pm's that you wanted to say this, and despite "being banned" for saying it, you paid for an account?! LOL. Fix your guild instead of paying IRL money to post about some server. Or it's some close dumb friend that paid like $30 to post lol. lame either way. BTW RUFUS ANSWER MY GOD DAMN QUESTION ITS LIKE 20 POSTS LATER U IDIOT. STILL IGNORING THAT QUESTION DIP ****?!


Sooooooo......... where did Eye of beholder post this ****? I would love for Graal to ip track you if they are allowed to. If not unfortunate for them, but I wouldn't dare pay $30 or so extra just post **** about someone. U mad Rufus. U really mad that you failed as a manager.


Dusty. So you're telling me over what classic has worked on, and over the manager, stefan gave you clearance to remake the server yourself. No staff needed and **** the classic staff?! lol. Love to see that fake PM.

Because of you ****s, I will give 3 solid days for people to convince me otherwise to continue on this server. You can take it as a *****, a baby, a cry, whatever. I will not continue unless more than 10 people want me to. Mostly because I'm not going to make some server Rufus and other *****es can use for guilds and stuff that is innovative as **** to play on. I will not pay another dime, or take another month offered for you pricks. Stop *****ing, and get over yourself, then report it to a pwa if you have a problem when its done instead of being a loud mouth **** ass mother ****er. It has little to nothing to do with you right now, as you only long on to be "shown otherwise" you stupid piece of ****. Rufus, Dusty, and Kea, among a few others, are the reasons servers like this go down in flames. Blame them until they make a server themsevles that is SO ****ING AWESOME AND UP IN CLASSIC TAB. The end. 3 days, 10 people, or I have 0 reason to continue for these bastards to play on a server I helped make. I planned to resign soon after classic, so say all the ****e you want to about "not being able to take it". I'm not an Admin on a dev server to take ****. I'm an admin on a dev server to make ****. I would have quit soon after classic to enjoy the server myself.

There is no content thieft besides 1 damn treetop to explain. Why dont you explain to me who beholder is. If theres something stolen ill let a PWA handle it.

I think that is probably the best route. With that said, I'm done posting about this stupid attempt at a server.

Care to share, or all talk?

Still can't answer my question like 15 posts later?!


What did you accomplish as bombyisland manager? Little to nothing. U mad.

C'mon, say who it is. Say it mister "I'm not scared"...

What tileset? I made a single Minish Cap style tree and I never used it, hence putting it in the free tiles thread.

Yes, Stefan is a pretty cool guy.

ROFL , your stupid you know that right ? im not this Rufus person , My name you should already know as its right there in the poster information , no one paid me anything to post . also , you know where you stole them from but why is graal gona track my ip ? for posting in the forums , that's not a crime . how ever graal will put a stop to people using stolen images on a server . if you really think I'm upset your sadly mistaken . Im having a good time cause your getting upset about people disagreeing with your less than rule abiding methods .

MERGED - i agree with Rusty and Decus_Arillias . the PWA will deal with it , probally shut down the server , no one to blame but the people too lazy to make their own stuff . FYI - it was made by "eye of the beholder" and used on "bomber arena" . tho it don't matter who made it or where it is used , you wern't given permission to use the images and are there by stolen . congrats thiefs .

No. They'll get banned. They just want to talk ****. They can't back it up whatsoever. PM a pwa. Say what its from, I dare you. Say it here and stop being a *****.

You have yet to say what they are stolen from...

Beholder is Eye of the Beholder. He used to play Graal but he quit a long time ago. However his graphics from his own personal use have managed to show up on your server. Mainly most of these interior tiles:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3...1284593985.png

Also, servers don't have to go up in flames. Just remove stolen content and manage it better so it doesn't happen again. I already confronted the server about stolen graphics and here they are again. The server would have no problems if the theft was dealt with. There is a reason I only showed up now, and that is when I saw Beholder's graphics being used even when he told me he said specifically NOT to use them because he didn't want them being claimed as Graal's because of their dumb uploaded content clause.

Im glad to hear, before you go how did u get control of US?

And what are we looking for?

no one knows wtf your talking about, wow our OSL big deal?

Lol this is getting funny, what is stolen and from where so i can take it down.
or just trying to tear down another server?

He told me and said it was ok and we could use. What is it from if I don't know. If it's not safe to use on graal, I don't want to, but Dusty and Rufus need to tell me since they know apparently. From what I know, it's as safe as RPG Maker, unless graal says otherwise. I don't give about what you mother ****ers say, from what he told me and what graal says. Is it illegal or something Dusty and Rufus?! Care to explain why you guys are so mad on something that isn't on graal anywhere?! Must the PWA figure out why you guys are so mad?!

His graphics:
http://i55.tinypic.com/rvym91.jpg

We're looking for why this is a problem. Dusty and Rufus know why. Why won't they tell us?! Are they hiding something to make us look like ****?!

WHERE IS THAT FROM DUSTY?! I've never seen that on graal!!!! PLZ SAY WHERE IT IS FROM AND DON'T BE A *****!!!!!

wow where from? what server?

Because they are my images, and for my personal projects. They were never meant to touch Graal Online servers, due to their inherent proposition you lose all rights to your own work.

Last time I was probably on these forums was over 10 years ago, and I still don't like it's atmosphere.

I do not wish for you to get shut down, or get harassed. The jist of it, I want my work totally removed, all copies and edits.

- Beholder

It's not from Graal and it's not from a server, hence the problem. He doesn't want Graal claiming legal rights to something of his just because someone decides to steal and upload it to their server.

Why is this so complicated? If you didn't argue and you didn't try to make other people look bad this would have ended a long time ago.

Looking forward to Amageddon

funny most of these images were given from a email from a close friend, i dont know how you can prove these images are yours

Yes, it's from Graal. The same engine, too. You guys are hiding behind something that you're too cowardly to admit. You guys are more in the wrong then any of the people staffed on Armageddon.

Keep going man. Looks like Rufus and Dusty and this other dude are in some weird illegal **** or something but they wont say... a PWA will handel that though...I can explain it plainly to a PWA.

By saying they are scared to name what it's from just tells the rest of us that you know what it's from as well, meaning you stole from it. Why don't you admit it yourselves?

Hmm? It's Beholder's, and he made the graphics. I'm pretty sure that's the main point here. Yes, see, you can try to wonder where they came from but that's moot because they're not Armageddon's to use, regardless of where they came from.

It doesn't matter if I know what it's from. Why? I'm not the one involved with that crap nor will I ever be. I support Graal Online.

So could I. One of your staff members 'borrowed' a portion of my works from my other projects to use as a "place holder" on your server.

The theft was spotted back on June 01/10 and relayed to me.

I confronted the staff member, and explained I wanted them removed and why.
Several months later, the images are still in place and I was notified once again.

Do not make accusations and try to direct attention elsewhere.
It is a simple matter of, I want my property on your server removed and for it to never be misused without my direct consent.

Who the **** cares? That's not what this discussion is about, it's about the stolen graphics.

i dont know who beholder is and what hes doing, obiously involved with something illegal or he stole content himself.

i care about where the **** is came from, Since theft is being brought up, thats the main subject now retard

Development using clients of Graal for public use on Graal Online is against the EULA/ToS, is it not?

Therefore void.

"Hey, what, we stole stuff? Well how about those Giants..."

It's his graphics, he is free to do with it what he cares. It's his own personal project and he doesn't have to disclose anything to anyone other than to tell you to get his work off of your server. I already posted a screenshot of his graphics being used in their intended manner(the screenshot is more complete and the graphics fit stylistically together, instead of being a complication of random graphics).

I am Beholder, and I am not involved in something illegal.
I draw pixel art and commission work for others, and the images used there are reserved within my personal stockpile to do as I please, such as to sell the images or to create my own works with it.

As for the jest I stole that content, I assure you I did not and the work is purely of my own.

wow if thats the case thumbs up for some wall images i was given and my additions to them.

Hold on. I'll search google and see what I find. Then if I can find it on google we'll know where Dusty, Rufus, Cling, and that random account thats like never posted on here got it from.

We'll see if PWA's are allowed to support it, and go from there. From what I've heard, once you upload it on graal its graal property unless otherwise noted. If it's copyrighted as of when we posted it per RC, we'd be glad to say we made a mistake, its not bad to have on here, its not something someone was doing bad, and take it off.

I was told by Rufus it was from graal reborn, whatever that is, so I'll search that too...

Amen , beholder showed up and told you they are his images , argument over .

just out of curriousity . if what you said is the truth i would advise against accepting work from this individual again . the reason people don't reconize our names is because we were around graalonline years ago , by the join dates I'd say before all you joined . except ssssss .

Loakey_P2P, please read this thread again.

Cyril never stated he was personally contacted by him, however; he did receive them from somebody.