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Rufus
03-11-2009, 04:40 PM
I logged on a different account earlier to show off my GC prizes and was presented with this.

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Oh come on, what the hell is it supposed to be? Seasonal? It's like logging onto a completely different (and completely hideous) new world. This shows up for new players by default too? No wonder we don't get any of them. Worst tileset I've seen since Gothic Vampire Times.

weeway
03-11-2009, 04:51 PM
I actually acree poo green grass?BLUE trees wth???

BlackSolider
03-11-2009, 04:59 PM
Yeah...its ghetto.

Besides, it's pretty...ok I don't know if there's a word for this. But you're essentially disrespecting people who live in the southern hemisphere, since their seasons are opposite.

Ok on second thought...I doubt we have anyone who plays from the southern hem.

Point is, it is ugly.

maximus_asinus
03-11-2009, 05:06 PM
It reminded me of the Dark World from LTTP the first time I seen them.

Rufus
03-11-2009, 05:07 PM
It reminded me of the Dark World from LTTP the first time I seen them.

Haha I see the resemblance. This tileset looks much more alien than the Dark World did though.

maximus_asinus
03-11-2009, 05:19 PM
I agree, it looks like one of the after effects if using the outdated 'setbackpal' command.

Crono
03-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Did someone slap an ugly backpal onto the overworld?

I agree, it looks like one of the after effects if using the outdated 'setbackpal' command.

God damnit, you beat me to it.

Elizabeth
03-11-2009, 08:19 PM
ew classic is ugly

Luda
03-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Reminds me of Zodiac awhile back lol

maximus_asinus
03-11-2009, 09:02 PM
ew classic is uglynice shirt. LOL.

Elizabeth
03-11-2009, 09:14 PM
nice shirt. LOL.

nice server. LOL.

pig132
03-11-2009, 09:21 PM
reminds me of a pile of ****

Kill
03-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Honestly reminds me of puke.

grim_squeaker_x
03-11-2009, 09:55 PM
the grass should be a color that resembles more to the original graal tileset. I dislike the seasons. winter and summer is enough. fall and spring is too much since it just looks weird.

Remonq
03-11-2009, 10:59 PM
if you guys really don't like it then turn it off

Crimson2005
03-11-2009, 11:18 PM
if you guys really don't like it then turn it off

Ya but this is the default for new players. They may not know how to turn it off. They just see ugly and leave. Stop trying to justify bull**** lol

xnervNATx
03-11-2009, 11:19 PM
if you guys really don't like it then turn it off

touche

BlackSolider
03-11-2009, 11:48 PM
Too bad we can't turn off ugly irl.

weeway
03-12-2009, 01:33 AM
Well we know that but for noobs who log on and see it, they dont know they can turn it off and as soon as you see it, it makes you wanna barf and run away

Luda
03-12-2009, 01:48 AM
but ur a noob too

p2p_Sir_Link
03-12-2009, 02:37 AM
should use the bomy islands tileset

WhiteDragon
03-12-2009, 02:38 AM
should steal lttp tileset and use it

Rufus
03-12-2009, 03:18 AM
if you guys really don't like it then turn it off

The issue that people have with the tileset isn't undone by the ability to change it yourself, and that is a copout of an excuse. As Princess Jade already mentioned, the seasonal tileset is what all new players (and old players that haven't logged on for a while) will see as soon as they log on; it's their first point of contact and it reflects the server at current. Can you imagine bizarro Classic actually leaving a good first impression on anyone? I can't, because it is vile.

Just because you may discover the ability to change it later on does not mean that it is at an acceptable standard of quality to actually be on the server either. The ability to change tilesets on the actual server is pretty debatable in itself, but if we're going to have seasonal tilesets then the development staff should actually put effort into it and make them look nice. It isn't hard to make something look nicer than that tileset, but then again it's not even necessary, nor do the default tilesets look out of place in a Spring season.

should use the bomy islands tileset

Yeah you're right, it would probably make the levels look so much better. Doubt it would go down well with the parroting nostalgia 'elitists' though.. or the rest of the server quality.

Luda
03-12-2009, 04:29 AM
Tom's sand tiles pls

Unpredlctable
03-12-2009, 04:47 AM
but ur a noob too

ya

MiniOne
03-12-2009, 08:07 AM
Classic looks ulgy with seasonal changes...
Just keep it the same its alot better :D

Remonq
03-12-2009, 08:49 AM
you guys are blowing this out of proportion

MiniOne
03-12-2009, 09:53 AM
you guys are blowing this out of proportion

Seems so but its true that it looked better without the seasonal stuff added.

Remonq
03-12-2009, 10:07 AM
so it seems. turn it off. and as for the newbies, maybe dev should make it more well known that it can be turned off in options

grim_squeaker_x
03-12-2009, 10:31 AM
I prefer the original tileset with just one color for the grass. :P

MiniOne
03-12-2009, 10:58 AM
There's a option to switch it off?

grim_squeaker_x
03-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Yes

Remonq
03-12-2009, 01:52 PM
it's an NPC in your Q inventory

weeway
03-12-2009, 04:26 PM
Ranger we know that but really it's ugly and noobs, not all of them are to smart it's easyer to remove it then to scare 5 people away with it's ugly colours

maximus_asinus
03-12-2009, 04:30 PM
Yeah you're right, it would probably make the levels look so much better. Doubt it would go down well with the parroting nostalgia 'elitists' though.. or the rest of the server quality.Personally, I have no problem with Classic using that tileset. For those who complain, they can switch to another tileset via the system already in place.

HOWEVER, I do not support the idea of multiple tilesets being used, I have no idea why this was allowed. In my tiles folder there are five different tilesets belonging to classic. Each tileset has different flaws with different tiles. It makes it incredibly difficult for a LAT to create a level that works with every tileset. Classic should focus on using one tileset. If we started using Bomy Island's tileset then it should become the default version, and all others should be removed.

As a side note I would also like to point out that if Classic was to use the tileset that we should get Koni's permission to first, because he created it for Bomy Islands. You may argue that as Bomy Islands manager you can dictate how the tileset is used, or that "everything uploaded to Graal Online is property of Graal Online" so we wouldn't need permission anyway, but I'm not sure everyone would accept this, especially if Koni returned and made a fuss. It would be best to play it on the safe side, get approval.

Remonq
03-12-2009, 10:57 PM
i agree with max on the part of using one tileset. i don't agree with using bomy island's tileset tho

ff7chocoboknight2
03-13-2009, 01:25 AM
The tileset looks nice in Swamp Town and Destiny...

BlackSolider
03-13-2009, 03:21 AM
But who goes there consistently?

xnervNATx
03-13-2009, 04:19 AM
But who goes there consistently?


he do

Luda
03-13-2009, 07:44 AM
Tom's sand tiles pls

woah awesome idea!

ff7chocoboknight2
03-14-2009, 04:07 AM
When I go to my house I have to cross through Swamp Town and Destiny, so I do.

MiniOne
03-14-2009, 04:25 AM
Swamp town looks pretty awesome

ff7chocoboknight2
03-14-2009, 04:31 AM
I think the best looking place on Classic is Lizardon Island, but none of you have seen that yet. Eternia looks nice too.

Unpredlctable
03-14-2009, 04:43 AM
****


edit: wait wrong thread



edit2: ****

Oni
03-14-2009, 05:08 AM
looks like diarea

xnervNATx
03-14-2009, 06:58 AM
****


edit: wait wrong thread



edit2: ****


...what?

wrong thread

Rufus
03-14-2009, 03:48 PM
Personally, I have no problem with Classic using that tileset. For those who complain, they can switch to another tileset via the system already in place.

I do, because it's a lazy way of making the server look nice. Bomy Island's tileset is exactly that, so it's not going to be used on Classic. Classic has the ability to look good itself with it's own style, while still retaining a Classic feel to it. I've worked with people on things like this in the past, so I know it is possible to make Classic look decent.

Remonq
03-15-2009, 06:23 AM
so why don't you actually do some work to help make classic look decent rufus?

Rufus
03-15-2009, 06:28 AM
so why don't you actually do some work to help make classic look decent rufus?

I'm not staff and have no desire to become staff.

xnervNATx
03-15-2009, 03:06 PM
I'm not staff and have no desire to become staff.

touche

Remonq
03-15-2009, 04:29 PM
I'm not staff and have no desire to become staff.

says one of the biggest critics of graal classic

Rufus
03-15-2009, 05:28 PM
says one of the biggest critics of graal classic

Being critical != Being staff

weeway
03-15-2009, 08:10 PM
rufus being staff wouldent make a new tileset appaear...

Luda
03-15-2009, 08:17 PM
It's possible Shannen

xnervNATx
03-15-2009, 08:59 PM
It's possible Shannen

luda , make a new tileset :blush:

ff7chocoboknight2
03-16-2009, 09:07 PM
Doubt he would anyways.

Luda
03-16-2009, 09:38 PM
A new tileset isn't even needed, just a new color choice of the ****ing grass

Remonq
03-16-2009, 10:59 PM
lmao. dude options, i'm telling you. fixes everything

xnervNATx
03-17-2009, 01:03 AM
A new tileset isn't even needed, just a new color choice of the ****ing grass


yaya make it purple , its so hot color