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Ryukuh_PK
08-03-2008, 11:15 AM
it kinda sucks man

Crono
08-03-2008, 04:08 PM
It's sucked for a while now.

Demisis_P2P
08-03-2008, 04:45 PM
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

Crono
08-03-2008, 04:58 PM
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

BRLLNT!caps

excaliber7388
08-03-2008, 05:12 PM
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4135/3dtext30110gk8.gif

You, sir, are some kind of genius.

cbk1994
08-03-2008, 06:46 PM
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

Don't forget to make players buy gelats, not subscriptions.

Cow2001
08-03-2008, 07:04 PM
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.
half?

Ryukuh_PK
08-03-2008, 07:11 PM
im tryin to get my friends to play this game but they dont seem to give a ****

wut can be done about the playercount

excaliber7388
08-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Better content.

DrakilorP2P
08-03-2008, 08:45 PM
Graal is broken, everyone hates it and here's how to fix it:

Make it 3D. 2D is primitive and obsolete.
Implement a leveling system with skills and talents.
Implement raids and instances.
Implement MGS style sneaking/stealth.
Quests, quests, quests, quests.
Make it intense with a deep storyline like HL2.

The last thing that needs to be done is to replace all current staff because I hold personal grudges against them and therefore hate them.

cbk1994
08-03-2008, 08:52 PM
Graal is broken, everyone hates it and here's how to fix it:

Make it 3D. 2D is primitive and obsolete.
Implement a leveling system with skills and talents.
Implement raids and instances.
Implement MGS style sneaking/stealth.
Quests, quests, quests, quests.
Make it intense with a deep storyline like HL2.

The last thing that needs to be done is to replace all current staff because I hold personal grudges against them and therefore hate them.

I hope you're kidding x_x

Crono1508
08-03-2008, 09:13 PM
If GraalOnline decided to be 3D only, I probably wouldn't play anymore.

Honestly, Graal has been 2D all the way.

excaliber7388
08-03-2008, 09:18 PM
Yeah part of it's charm is that it's 2d. But there are a few changes that could be made.

Mark Sir Link
08-03-2008, 09:45 PM
half?

I guess he's assuming half of Graal's playerbase are in the United States or Canada

Cow2001
08-03-2008, 09:59 PM
I guess he's assuming half of Graal's playerbase are in the United States or Canada
it still doesn't make any sense

cbk1994
08-03-2008, 10:30 PM
it still doesn't make any sense

For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.

Cow2001
08-03-2008, 10:32 PM
For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.
how come?

cbk1994
08-03-2008, 10:35 PM
how come?

They were losing money because the United States Dollar isn't worth crap. Now, the players who pay have to make up for the dollar sucking, not them.

Which is going to make a lot of people not reupgrade or even upgrade in the first place.

excaliber7388
08-03-2008, 10:41 PM
Its not their fault our dollar sucks :(

Cow2001
08-03-2008, 11:09 PM
They were losing money because the United States Dollar isn't worth crap. Now, the players who pay have to make up for the dollar sucking, not them.
but doesnt it affect europeans in the same way?
they had to pay less euros when it was based on the dollar

cbk1994
08-03-2008, 11:22 PM
but doesnt it affect europeans in the same way?
they had to pay less euros when it was based on the dollar

No, because they are charging euros now, so they can afford to lower the price.

Cow2001
08-03-2008, 11:23 PM
No, because they are charging euros now, so they can afford to lower the price.
k let me ask in a different way.
how much did it cost earlier for americans and europeans, and how much does it cost now?

cbk1994
08-04-2008, 12:38 AM
k let me ask in a different way.
how much did it cost earlier for americans and europeans, and how much does it cost now?

Gold bundle used to be $48 USD (a year). Now it's around $55-$60.

Not sure about euros.

Also, you can't just buy a playerworlds package, so I've also got to pay for a zone subscription, a kingdoms subscription, and a classic subscription when I upgrade.

Mark Sir Link
08-04-2008, 06:00 AM
For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.

no, it's more expensive. Since the number amount has remained the same but they are now charging Euros, Europeans and Americans are both paying alot more than they used to

cbk1994
08-04-2008, 06:14 AM
no, it's more expensive. Since the number amount has remained the same but they are now charging Euros, Europeans and Americans are both paying alot more than they used to

it's less expensive for european people who bought gold bundle
we now bind prices to euro (which increases prices by 55 percent), and give you gold bundle in exchange. Also you get the starter packs and a much more flexible subscription system.

Original thread .. (http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80066)

Cow2001
08-04-2008, 12:08 PM
so the price is now the same for everyone, instead of discriminating to europeans, I don't see the problem

cbk1994
08-04-2008, 07:54 PM
so the price is now the same for everyone, instead of discriminating to europeans, I don't see the problem

It costs much more for us. Regardless of "fair", it costs too much, and people can't afford to upgrade.

Cow2001
08-04-2008, 08:09 PM
It costs much more for us. Regardless of "fair", it costs too much, and people can't afford to upgrade.
if they could have handled a even higher cost, I'm sure you can handle the current one.
the united states isn't a third world country

Frankie
08-04-2008, 08:57 PM
I don't understand how it's less for Europeans.

If an account was 20 dollars, Europeans are paying 13 euros.
With the new system, an account would be 20 euros instead of 20 dollars, so now Europeans are paying 7 euros more than they were, and Americans are paying about 11 dollars more.

cbk1994
08-05-2008, 12:02 AM
if they could have handled a even higher cost, I'm sure you can handle the current one.
the united states isn't a third world country
I can afford, but there are others who can't. I'm not complaining, I'm answering your questions.
I don't understand how it's less for Europeans.

If an account was 20 dollars, Europeans are paying 13 euros.
With the new system, an account would be 20 euros instead of 20 dollars, so now Europeans are paying 7 euros more than they were, and Americans are paying about 11 dollars more.

They weren't using the exchange rates to calculate how many euros it used to cost.

xAzerothx
08-05-2008, 01:09 AM
Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

Baszle
08-05-2008, 03:11 AM
Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?

DustyPorViva
08-05-2008, 03:13 AM
You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?
Lots of people spend $50 just to talk on the game. At least this way you don't gotta download a client.

xAzerothx
08-05-2008, 03:18 AM
You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?

I don't play the game itself anymore. I just like seeing people on the forums go "grrrrrrrrrrrr i h8 u."

excaliber7388
08-05-2008, 05:47 AM
Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

Unless you ever want to change your email. So yeah, if you don't want to get emails from anti unix anymore, because CJ's security sucks, you're **** out of luck. I was told I couldn't change my name, or have my info transfered over to another account (or have my name changed). Essentially, a classic account is treated like a trial account, who has cheated their way into getting access to saving their progress on classic servers.

xAzerothx
08-05-2008, 05:52 AM
I do not use the email I use for graal anyways.

excaliber7388
08-05-2008, 06:02 AM
I do not use the email I use for graal anyways.

Same.
Which is part of the reason I wanted it switched.
Maybe if I had a gold account, or if someone got one for me, I could get my name, email, etc, changed. :[

cbk1994
08-05-2008, 07:01 AM
saving their progress on classic servers.

Everyone can save on Classic servers now (and even UC/gold servers). Observer mode is the new reason to upgrade. It's way better than the old trial system. [/sarcasm]

excaliber7388
08-05-2008, 07:26 AM
w/e

DustyPorViva
08-05-2008, 07:34 AM
Everyone can save on Classic servers now (and even UC/gold servers). Observer mode is the new reason to upgrade. It's way better than the old trial system. [/sarcasm]
Oh... phew, you saved yourself with a sarcasm tag there. I was ready to post some obscenities and such.

Baszle
08-05-2008, 09:02 AM
Lots of people spend $50 just to talk on the game. At least this way you don't gotta download a client.

i would of never known. D: