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SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 02:12 AM
Well, I've thought of a Zone RPG. I was going to ask Stefan, if we could start a project like this, and have me manage it, once we were finished. I was going to try to have things end up like this:

Levels = Vulcan / Huwajux
GANI's = Vulcan / Huwajux
Scripts = Stefan / ?
GFX = Me / ?

But then I thought about that part, and figured that Stefan wouldn't allow it. So heres the idea...

Zone hasn't been doing so well. It gets very repetitive. I just started playing GK again, about a week ago, along with Graal itself. During the time that I've started playing again, I've found out a couple of things.

Zone:

-Negitives.

Is very repetitive.
Gets boring, very quickly.
Has small "planet" levels.
To many people look alike.
Laggy.

-Positives.

Nice Graphics.
Guns. ;)

Graal Kingdoms:

-Negitives.

To hard to raise your level, after about 25.
You have to eat like 20 times a day.

-Positives.

Alot of different sets of "armor" and "weapons"
Big "Over World(s)"
Not very laggy.


Now, We could try this on a "World" for Zone, and if things went well, we could make "Zone" that planet. Of course there would need alot of work for the "Planet". The size itself would have to be probly the size of the GK world map.

So, I was thinking. I thought of "Combining" Graal Kingdoms, with Zone.

It would be like this;

Q-Menu.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9510/zonerpgguigo3.gif

Hp/Energy Menu.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4682/zonerpgguihpbarts3.gif

Stats.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif


Top-Left to Bottom-Left.
IMG]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif[/IMG]

-Strength (Str)

Determines your Weight Limit.
For every 2 Str points, you get 1 WC and 1 AC. After 20 points every point adds 1 WC and 1 AC.
Every 3 Str points adds .1 speed. After 20 points every 2 points adds .1 Speed.
Every 5 Str points adds 10 health points to you. After 20 points every point adds 10 Health.


-Dexterity (Dex)

Determines how long, and how fast you can run.
Every 5 Dex points adds .5 speed. After 20 points every 2 points adds .5 Speed.
Every Dex point adds 1 AC.


-Constitution (Con)

Determines your max health points.
Each Con point adds between 3-10 health. After 20 points each point adds 6-13 Health points.


-Intellegence (Int)

Determines how many bullets hit you, out of a group.
Determines if you have the "common sence" to use something. (ex. -To use a powerful gun, you would need alot of "common sence". Without "common sence" you wouldn't be trusted.)
Points.
- 7 points = Way Below Average. Only trusted with using some Pistols, and some Rifles.
- 12 points = A little Below Average. Trusted with all Pistols, and some Rifles, and some Grenades.
- 15 points = Average. Trusted with all Pistols, all Rifles, and all Grenades.
- 20 points = Trusted with everything. (Able to use any weapon.)
Some items require you have more than 20 int points to use.


-Energy (Energy)

Determines how long you can run.
Determines how much energy you use with weapons/items.
Each point adds 5 energy. After 20 points, it adds 10 energy.


-Damage (Dmg)

Determines how much Dmg, per bullet/stab, that your weapon does.
Each point adds 1 Dmg to the weapon.
To figure out the amount of damage, take the whole amount of dmg, and divide it by 5. The number remaining is the players dmg per bullet.


-Aim (Aim)

Determines how far your bullets spread, and how far they go.
Every 2 points increases your chances for bullets to hit, and increases the distance the bullets go by 1 tile



Top-Right to Bottom-Right.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif

-Speed (Speed)

Determines how fast you walk. Double-Tappin a keypad (running) is two times faster than your walk speed.


-Weight (Weight)

How much your carrying


-Weight Limit (Weight Limit)

How much weight you can carry total.


-Armor Class (AC)

Displays how much armor you have on.
In order to break someones AC you must be within atleast 12 WC of the players AC


-Weapon Class (WC)

Displays how much armor your bullets can peirce through.
You get 1 WC for every level you gain in Weapons.


-Energy Dmg (Energy Dmg)

Determines how much Dmg you do with energy attacks.
Each point adds 1 dmg.
To figure out the amount of damage, take the whole amount of dmg, and divide it by 5. The number remaining is the players dmg per bullet.


-Bullet Speed (Bullet Speed)

Displays how fast your bullets are.


The max amount of points you can get with any of these, is 30.

Armor.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9510/zonerpgguigo3.gif

Helmets.
Amulets.
Body Armor.
Belts.
Boots.
Bracers.
Gloves.
Rings.
Weapons.
Grenades.
Misc. Items. (Jetpack, Medpack, Cloaks, etc.)


Levels.
Levels would only mean more Health, and more of anything else that is added from leveling up.

Level System:
[LIST]
1 = 250 exp.
2 = 500 exp.
3 = 750 exp.
4 = 1000 exp.
5 = 1750 exp.
6 = 3500 exp.
7 = 5250 exp.
8 = 8750 exp.
9 = 14000 exp.
10 = 22750 exp.
11 = 36500 exp.
12 = 59250 exp.
13 = 95750 exp.
14 = 150000 exp.
15 = 245000 exp.
16 = 300000 exp.
17 = 365000 exp.
18 = 480000 exp.
19 = 560000 exp.
20 = 700000 exp.
21 = 850000 exp.
22 = 980000 exp.
23 = 1250000 exp.
24 = 1500000 exp.
25 = 1610000 exp.
26 = 1870000 exp.
27 = 2100000 exp.
28 = 2500000 exp.
29 = 2750000 exp.
30 = 3300000 exp.
31 = 3950000 exp.
32 = 4600000 exp.
33 = 5100000 exp.
34 = 6000000 exp.
35 = 7500000 exp.
36 = 8500000 exp.
37 = 9500000 exp.
38 = 10500000 exp.
39 = 11500000 exp.
40 = 13500000 exp.
41 = 15500000 exp.
42 = 17000000 exp.
43 = 19500000 exp.
44 = 23500000 exp.
45 = 27000000 exp.
46 = 40000000 exp.
47 = 45500000 exp.
48 = 50500000 exp.
49 = 56000000 exp.
50 = 70000000 exp.


Highest level is 50.

[B]Max.

Health = 600
Energy = 300
Speed = None.
Damage = 300
Weapon Class = -120
Armor Class = -100
Bullet Speed = 5.0 (in player speed)
Weight Holdable = 5,000 lbs.


Resistances.

Fire
Lava
Ice
Poison
Explosions
Bullets


*We would need a "Trade Center" or some way to trade items/money.
**We would need a .GMAP, set up like GK's (with the 3D terrain)
***We would need to make "Baddies" that give away exp.

We'd have to make "Planets". These "Planets" would be like GK "Treasure Maps". To get to a "Planet" you would use a device to call the "Drop Ship". You'd be beamed to the ship, and then you would be given a "ride" to the planet. (It'd be kinda like the boat on GK, except your inside a Dropship.

Planet Types.

Level 1 Planets = "Baddies" (NPC's that look like characters) running around with different types of pistols. These types of "Planets" would have weak "Baddies". Each "Baddie" would give 50 exp.
Level 2 Planets = "Baddies" run around here with different pistols, and some using rifles. These "Baddies" would be harder than the Level 1's. Each "Baddie" would give 100 exp.
Level 3 Planets = "Baddies" running around with only Rifles. These "Baddies" would be harder than the Level 2's. Each "Baddie" would give 250 exp.
Level 4 Planets = "Baddies" running around with ALL weapons. These "Baddies" would be the hardest types of "Baddies" around. Each "Baddie" would give 1000 exp.

(Remember you'd be able to stay on the "Planet" until you died, or "Called the DropShip")

uhhh this is just an idea...as you can tell ive been thinking about it lol...uhhh i thought of it 2 days ago...not tryna spend more time writing this, cause most of you will probly not like it.or say "go to era" lol. i'm waiting for that one.

Anyways...It'd make Zone alot more interesting. And I think it'd be a nice idea.

FOR 2 HOURS IVE BEEN WRITING THIS, so you guys better like it. :D

dude2020
09-22-2006, 02:16 AM
No No No No No that Rpg Would kill trials very badly and posabley zon along with it and i don want Zone to die thats the only reason i payed Gold/vip for :cry:

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 02:19 AM
It wouldn't really KILL anything. It would be set up in the -exact- form that Graal Kingdoms is in. The only difference between Zones Trials now and what Zones Trials would be, is that they would only be limited to non-saving if this idea happened. Rather than being restricted from 20 HP, No-Tags, Less Equipment, and non-saving.

;)

jkool666
09-22-2006, 02:20 AM
I'm reconsidering this Zone RPG idea. Sayain took it REALLY in deep :)

dude2020
09-22-2006, 02:20 AM
It wouldn't really KILL anything. It would be set up in the -exact- form that Graal Kingdoms is in. The only difference between Zones Trials now and what Zones Trials would be, is that they would only be limited to non-saving if this idea happened. Rather than being restricted from 20 HP, No-Tags, and Less Equipment.it would kill Zone becuz most ppl that play zone are non RPGers like me :\

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 02:36 AM
it would kill Zone becuz most ppl that play zone are non RPGers like me :\
Thats why I wanted it to be a whole other server. Because some of Zones CHILDREN( :D ) wouldn't like the idea. Did you even read what I wrote? lol. It would be Zone, but with items, and stats. :oo:

*Edit.

I'm reconsidering this Zone RPG idea. Sayain took it REALLY in deep :)
Also, just seen this.

<3

lol...Ive had the idea on my mind since Tuesday night...so I had alot to write about ^^

*Edit x2.

I think one of the reasons I thought of it like this, is because once you get "so good" things get boring...And I dont really get bored of GK easily because theres always a challenge...I just hate sword fights lol...Also this adds more "Veriety" to the game...so it would make opponents more of a challenge. :D

dude2020
09-22-2006, 02:47 AM
Thats why I wanted it to be a whole other server. Because some of Zones CHILDREN( :D ) wouldn't like the idea. Did you even read what I wrote? lol. It would be Zone, but with items, and stats.i didnt read all of it i jsut dont like even the littlest Rpg games z.z

pooper200000
09-22-2006, 02:47 AM
Thats why I wanted it to be a whole other server. Because some of Zones CHILDREN( :D ) wouldn't like the idea. Did you even read what I wrote? lol. It would be Zone, but with items, and stats. :oo:


Also, just seen this.

<3

lol...Ive had the idea on my mind since Tuesday night...so I had alot to write about ^^

If had worse ideas its not all together the worst idea ever. I don't know if I like all the calculations involved and how you would need stuff. Maybe that oculd be another playworld but i speak for a couple of friends who are p2p when I says this when I say that the only reason I play zone is because i like zone. I wouldn't much enjoy anything else. Maybe they could offer a new world, but this would also be a Great way to save the gk and zone
I think we all want to deny that all the worlds playercounts have dropped. I just hope they can do soemthing without morphing gk and zone. Sayain I appreciate all the thought and time you put into this but I wouldn't like zone like that. Okh and sayain why woudl you write for 2 hours?!?! I couldn't do that my threads are usually a paragraph long rofl.

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 03:49 AM
Maybe that oculd be another playworld
Well, I've thought of a Zone RPG. I was going to ask Stefan, if we could start a project like this, and have me manage it, once we were finished. I was going to try to have things end up like this:

Levels = Vulcan / Huwajux
GANI's = Vulcan / Huwajux
Scripts = Stefan / ?
GFX = Me / ?

But then I thought about that part, and figured that Stefan wouldn't allow it.
Stefan most likely, won't allow it. I'll Forum PM him later asking about it. But I still figured I'd post my idea ;)

o...and uh...i got the car taken away...cause i aint gotta job :whatever:

so im stuck at the house all day and decided to finally get around to typing my idea up. ^^

*also there will be 2 more replys from me, which means a triple post...but thats only because you can only have 10000 words per post...and i have 13339 x_x

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 03:50 AM
Well, I've thought of a Zone RPG. I was going to ask Stefan, if we could start a project like this, and have me manage it, once we were finished. I was going to try to have things end up like this:

Levels = Vulcan / Huwajux
GANI's = Vulcan / Huwajux
Scripts = Stefan / ?
GFX = Me / ?

But then I thought about that part, and figured that Stefan wouldn't allow it. So heres the idea...

Zone hasn't been doing so well. It gets very repetitive. I just started playing GK again, about a week ago, along with Graal itself. During the time that I've started playing again, I've found out a couple of things.

Zone:

-Negitives.

Is very repetitive.
Gets boring, very quickly.
Has small "planet" levels.
To many people look alike.
Laggy.

-Positives.

Nice Graphics.
Guns. ;)

Graal Kingdoms:

-Negitives.

To hard to raise your level, after about 25.
You have to eat like 20 times a day.

-Positives.

Alot of different sets of "armor" and "weapons"
Big "Over World(s)"
Not very laggy.


Now, We could try this on a "World" for Zone, and if things went well, we could make "Zone" that planet. Of course there would need alot of work for the "Planet". The size itself would have to be probly the size of the GK world map.

So, I was thinking. I thought of "Combining" Graal Kingdoms, with Zone.

It would be like this;

Q-Menu.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9510/zonerpgguigo3.gif

Hp/Energy Menu.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4682/zonerpgguihpbarts3.gif

Stats.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif


Top-Left to Bottom-Left.
IMG]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif[/IMG]

-Strength (Str)

Determines your Weight Limit.
For every 2 Str points, you get 1 WC and 1 AC. After 20 points every point adds 1 WC and 1 AC.
Every 3 Str points adds .1 speed. After 20 points every 2 points adds .1 Speed.
Every 5 Str points adds 10 health points to you. After 20 points every point adds 10 Health.


-Dexterity (Dex)

Determines how long, and how fast you can run.
Every 5 Dex points adds .5 speed. After 20 points every 2 points adds .5 Speed.
Every Dex point adds 1 AC.


-Constitution (Con)

Determines your max health points.
Each Con point adds between 3-10 health. After 20 points each point adds 6-13 Health points.


-Intellegence (Int)

Determines how many bullets hit you, out of a group.
Determines if you have the "common sence" to use something. (ex. -To use a powerful gun, you would need alot of "common sence". Without "common sence" you wouldn't be trusted.)
Points.
- 7 points = Way Below Average. Only trusted with using some Pistols, and some Rifles.
- 12 points = A little Below Average. Trusted with all Pistols, and some Rifles, and some Grenades.
- 15 points = Average. Trusted with all Pistols, all Rifles, and all Grenades.
- 20 points = Trusted with everything. (Able to use any weapon.)
Some items require you have more than 20 int points to use.


-Energy (Energy)

Determines how long you can run.
Determines how much energy you use with weapons/items.
Each point adds 5 energy. After 20 points, it adds 10 energy.


-Damage (Dmg)

Determines how much Dmg, per bullet/stab, that your weapon does.
Each point adds 1 Dmg to the weapon.
To figure out the amount of damage, take the whole amount of dmg, and divide it by 5. The number remaining is the players dmg per bullet.


-Aim (Aim)

Determines how far your bullets spread, and how far they go.
Every 2 points increases your chances for bullets to hit, and increases the distance the bullets go by 1 tile



Top-Right to Bottom-Right.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9628/zoneexcm5.gif

-Speed (Speed)

Determines how fast you walk. Double-Tappin a keypad (running) is two times faster than your walk speed.


-Weight (Weight)

How much your carrying


-Weight Limit (Weight Limit)

How much weight you can carry total.


-Armor Class (AC)

Displays how much armor you have on.
In order to break someones AC you must be within atleast 12 WC of the players AC


-Weapon Class (WC)

Displays how much armor your bullets can peirce through.
You get 1 WC for every level you gain in Weapons.


-Energy Dmg (Energy Dmg)

Determines how much Dmg you do with energy attacks.
Each point adds 1 dmg.
To figure out the amount of damage, take the whole amount of dmg, and divide it by 5. The number remaining is the players dmg per bullet.


-Bullet Speed (Bullet Speed)

Displays how fast your bullets are.


The max amount of points you can get with any of these, is 30.

Armor.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9510/zonerpgguigo3.gif

Helmets.
Amulets.
Body Armor.
Belts.
Boots.
Bracers.
Gloves.
Rings.
Weapons.
Grenades.
Misc. Items. (Jetpack, Medpack, Cloaks, etc.)


Levels.
Levels would only mean more Health, and more of anything else that is added from leveling up.

Level System:
[LIST]
1 = 250 exp.
2 = 500 exp.
3 = 750 exp.
4 = 1000 exp.
5 = 1750 exp.
6 = 3500 exp.
7 = 5250 exp.
8 = 8750 exp.
9 = 14000 exp.
10 = 22750 exp.
11 = 36500 exp.
12 = 59250 exp.
13 = 95750 exp.
14 = 150000 exp.
15 = 245000 exp.
16 = 300000 exp.
17 = 365000 exp.
18 = 480000 exp.
19 = 560000 exp.
20 = 700000 exp.
21 = 850000 exp.
22 = 980000 exp.
23 = 1250000 exp.
24 = 1500000 exp.
25 = 1610000 exp.
26 = 1870000 exp.
27 = 2100000 exp.
28 = 2500000 exp.
29 = 2750000 exp.
30 = 3300000 exp.
31 = 3950000 exp.
32 = 4600000 exp.
33 = 5100000 exp.
34 = 6000000 exp.
35 = 7500000 exp.
36 = 8500000 exp.
37 = 9500000 exp.
38 = 10500000 exp.
39 = 11500000 exp.
40 = 13500000 exp.
41 = 15500000 exp.
42 = 17000000 exp.
43 = 19500000 exp.
44 = 23500000 exp.
45 = 27000000 exp.
46 = 40000000 exp.
47 = 45500000 exp.
48 = 50500000 exp.
49 = 56000000 exp.
50 = 70000000 exp.


Highest level is 50.

[B]Max.

Health = 600
Energy = 300
Speed = None.
Damage = 300
Weapon Class = -120
Armor Class = -100
Bullet Speed = 5.0 (in player speed)
Weight Holdable = 5,000 lbs.


Resistances.

Fire
Lava
Ice
Poison
Explosions
Bullets


*We would need a "Trade Center" or some way to trade items/money.
**We would need a .GMAP, set up like GK's (with the 3D terrain)
***We would need to make "Baddies" that give away exp.

We'd have to make "Planets". These "Planets" would be like GK "Treasure Maps". To get to a "Planet" you would use a device to call the "Drop Ship". You'd be beamed to the ship, and then you would be given a "ride" to the planet. (It'd be kinda like the boat on GK, except your inside a Dropship.

Planet Types.

Level 1 Planets = "Baddies" (NPC's that look like characters) running around with different types of pistols. These types of "Planets" would have weak "Baddies". Each "Baddie" would give 50 exp.
Level 2 Planets = "Baddies" run around here with different pistols, and some using rifles. These "Baddies" would be harder than the Level 1's. Each "Baddie" would give 100 exp.
Level 3 Planets = "Baddies" running around with only Rifles. These "Baddies" would be harder than the Level 2's. Each "Baddie" would give 250 exp.
Level 4 Planets = "Baddies" running around with ALL weapons. These "Baddies" would be the hardest types of "Baddies" around. Each "Baddie" would give 1000 exp.

(Remember you'd be able to stay on the "Planet" until you died, or "Called the DropShip")

Experience

How would you get exp? The same way you get it from "normal" Zone. People get bountys, which when they die whoever killed them, gets the money/exp. But! there would also be "Baddies" to kill and get money/exp from.

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 03:50 AM
Baddies

Are NPC's, Like the "Spar Bot".

Baddie Info.

Level 1-2 Baddies have;

5 WC, 5 AC, do 5 dmg, have 25 hp.
Give 25 exp, and $25.


Level 3-4 Baddies have;

3 WC, 3 AC, do 6 dmg, have 75 hp.
Give 50 exp, and $50.


Level 5 Baddies have;

0 WC, 0 AC, do 6 dmg, have 100 hp.
Give 75 exp, and $75.


Level 6-10 Baddies have;

-12 WC, -10 AC, do 6 dmg, have 150 hp.
Give 150 exp, and $125.


Level 11-15 Baddies have;

-20 WC, -25 AC, do 7 dmg, have 175 hp.
Give 375 exp, and $175.


Level 16-20 Baddies have;

-35 WC, -35 AC, do 8 dmg, have 250 hp.
Give 500 exp, and $250.


Level 21-25 Baddies have;

-40 WC, -45 AC, do 9 dmg, have 275 hp.
Give 1300 exp, and $300.


Level 26-35 Baddies have;

-45 WC, -45 AC, do 10 dmg, have 300 hp.
Give 2225 exp, and $425.


Level 36-45 Baddies have;

-50 WC, -50 AC, do 11 dmg, have 350 hp.
Give 3500 exp, and $500.


Level 46-49 Baddies have;

-55 WC, -55 AC, do 12 dmg, have 400 hp.
Give 5000 exp, and $1000.


Level 50 Baddies have;

-65 WC, -70 AC, do 15 dmg, have 500 hp.
Give 10000 exp, and $5000.


Drop Ships
Drop Ships are only to be used for transporting from world to world. They also have Out-Of-World Weapons, and Armor. Drop Ships aren't something you come buy everyday.

Fighting
Would stay like the way it is on Zone. The only difference would be if someone has to high of a AC level, your bullets wouldn't do any damage.

AC
AC would work the same way it does on Graal Kingdoms. You can "Enchant Armor", but there are restrictions. (EA = Enchant Armor)

Level 1-4 = EA up to +1
Level 4-8 = EA up to +2
Level 8-12 = EA up to +3
Level 12-16 = EA up to +4
Level 16-20 = EA up to +5
Level 20-24 = EA up to +6
Level 24-28 = EA up to +7
Level 28-32 = EA up to +8
Level 32-35 = EA up to +9
Level 35-45 = EA up to +10
Level 45-49 = EA up to +11
Level 50 = EA up to +12


WC
WC would also work, sort of, like GK. The amount of WC you have, will result in if you do more damage (the lower the other players AC is, will increase the damage you do on them). It will also result in if you are able to hurt someone (if your WC is 13 lower than there AC your chances of doing dmg are dropped to about 5%)

Preping Your Gun/Weapon.
Will work like this;

Level 1-2 = can handel up to 1 improvement
Level 3-4 = can handel up to 2 improvements
Level 5-6 = can handel up to 3 improvements
Level 7-8 = can handel up to 4 improvements
Level 9-10 = can handel up to 5 improvements
Level 11-12 = can handel up to 6 improvements
Level 13-14 = can handel up to 7 improvements
Level 15-16 = can handel up to 8 improvements
Level 17-18 = can handel up to 9 improvements
Level 19-20 = can handel up to 10 improvements
Level 21-22 = can handel up to 11 improvements
Level 23-24 = can handel up to 12 improvements
Level 25-26 = can handel up to 13 improvements
Level 27-28 = can handel up to 14 improvements
Level 29-30 = can handel up to 15 improvements
Level 31-32 = can handel up to 16 improvements
Level 33-34 = can handel up to 17 improvements
Level 35-36 = can handel up to 18 improvements
Level 37-38 = can handel up to 19 improvements
Level 39-40 = can handel up to 20 improvements
Level 41-42 = can handel up to 21 improvements
Level 43-44 = can handel up to 22 improvements
Level 45-46 = can handel up to 23 improvements
Level 47-49 = can handel up to 24 improvements
Level 50 = can handel up to 25 improvements


Improvements
Help better your weapon. You can add these types of "Improvements" to your weapon;

Fire - Adds a Burning Effect to your weapon. (Adds more damage if someone has - resistance to fire)
Lighting - Adds a Shocking Effect to your weapon. (Adds more damage if someone has - resistance to Lighting)
Ice - Adds a Freezing Effect to your weapon. (Adds more damage if someone has - resistance to Ice)
Goo - Adds a Poison/Slow down effect to you weapon. (Makes opponent move .6 slower for 10 seconds.)
Lava - Adds more 3 more dmg to your weapon, also makes opponent burn for 10 secs.
Explosion - Adds an explosion opon impact with opponent. This adds 5 dmg to your weapon.
Enhancement - Enhances your bullets. This adds 1 WC to your weapon, per scroll that you use.


Peacefull Mode
There will be none. It will be a PK Zone everywhere. The only non-Pk zones will be inside the Drop Ship (only some) and in some buildings.

Added a few more things. Will add more, when I think of them :o

Stone_Tower
09-22-2006, 04:16 AM
That's mean I already had this idea :cry:

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 08:02 AM
Heres an example of how/what it should look like.

The bottom left side will display your lvls

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/721/ex1wo5.gif

Huwajux
09-22-2006, 12:00 PM
Oh my God, this is brilliant. Amazing brain wave, dude. I'd certainly take this into consideration, except it should be a new server in my opinion.

Draenin
09-22-2006, 01:46 PM
I'm going to choke you so hard you'll be pushing food directly into your esophagus with your index finger for the rest of your life.

Jackel9
09-22-2006, 03:28 PM
I'm going to choke you so hard you'll be pushing food directly into your esophagus with your index finger for the rest of your life.
Was that suppose to be funny. Well Sayian I think this will be a great idea for Zone. It could be used as a side event and so forth.

Draenin
09-22-2006, 03:30 PM
Was that suppose to be funny.Do you think it was supposed to be funny?
Well Sayian I think this will be a great idea for Zone.Haha, you've got to be kidding me.
It could be used as a side event and so forth.You fail to see how the engines conflict.

Jackel9
09-22-2006, 03:37 PM
Oh really.
I mean Stefan wouldn't see any problem with it.
Describe how it would interfere with the engines.

Huwajux
09-22-2006, 03:47 PM
Haha, you've got to be kidding me.
The idea is awesome. Makes a change. Or maby this could be a completely new server? Nothing to do with Zone, just a shooting RPG. But not like Era.

Jackel9
09-22-2006, 03:51 PM
You're right.Stefan Should make it into a different server.

Draenin
09-22-2006, 03:53 PM
The idea is awesome.Yeah, if you're on drugs.

Oh wait, I forgot who made this thread. My bad, Sayian. <3

Jackel9
09-22-2006, 03:55 PM
Yeah, if you're on drugs.

Oh wait, I forgot who made this thread. My bad, Sayian. <3
:\ Heh

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 04:03 PM
Yeah, if you're on drugs.

Oh wait, I forgot who made this thread. My bad, Sayian. <3]

...your sooo lucky I fsckin love you. <3

Wheres my 200 dias?! :cry: lol.

You're right.Stefan Should make it into a different server.
Ya...I wanted it to be a new server...if you read the very begining I say that...But I doubt'd that Stefan would make a new Server, just to start this Project.

*Note - ain't seen you in AWHILE :o

The idea is awesome. Makes a change. Or maby this could be a completely new server? Nothing to do with Zone, just a shooting RPG. But not like Era.
<3
I like it...I'm glad to see you guys do aswell. :D
And like I said above, I wanted it to be a new server under the Gold tab. Since "Gold" servers, only have a Sword RPG and a Arcade Game. I thought it'd be nice to mix the 2 into a Gun RPG game. I wanted to manage it, if it was going to be a new server, but like I said:
Well, I've thought of a Zone RPG. I was going to ask Stefan, if we could start a project like this, and have me manage it, once we were finished. I was going to try to have things end up like this:

Levels = Vulcan / Huwajux
GANI's = Vulcan / Huwajux
Scripts = Stefan / ?
GFX = Me / ?

But then I thought about that part, and figured that Stefan wouldn't allow it. So heres the idea...

Someone should mention it to Stefan, and have him take a look at it. :cry:

Jackel9
09-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Maybe I can join with this.
If it's ok with you Sayian.

(PS Been Awhile check your pm)

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 04:10 PM
I checked it :o

And, I'm not sure this "Idea" will even work out...it's all up to Stefan...If he "ok's" the "Project" I'm pretty sure you'd be able to help out. (If I remember right, you can script?).

But it's up to Stefan, If this is to be a new Gold Server. It wouldn't work as a Classic Server, Unless we were approved to use Graal Kingdoms, and Zone Gfx.

So, we have to wait for Stefan to see this, before we make any decisions. :cry:

Draenin
09-22-2006, 04:11 PM
...your sooo lucky I fsckin love you. <3

Wheres my 200 dias?! lol.Since I'm starting to run out of gold, I'll probably just pawn off some stuff to you last-second.
Someone should mention it to Stefan, and have him take a look at it. If you're actually being serious about it, for the love of freaking god, don't use the same engine setup that Kingdoms has. Kingdoms is the epitomy of nearly everything gone from great to horrendously stupid, and you could do better than that. What you're proposing is unoriginal, and it would use Crossfire's engine as a crutch, which is what continues to screw up Kingdoms day by day.

Huwajux
09-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah, if you're on drugs.

Oh wait, I forgot who made this thread. My bad, Sayian. <3
I'm guessing the GUI that was shown was an example, hopefully. It's easy enough to make a new one.

bahamutstevetff
09-22-2006, 04:17 PM
i am seriosly in love with this idea, i think it could possible become the best server ever. i mean its just incredible, and it holds endless oppertunities, ablolutely amazing sayian, i see you put haert and soul into the idea and you deserve to have it put through, incredible.

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 04:24 PM
**Side Note to Draenin** Wait, your not re-upgrading?! :( ...you really should x_x

You meet me n then quit?! :cry:

:(

*Back to the Posts*

What do you mean it would use "Crossfire's Engine"? It would need a whole new "Engine" to run on. It'd use Zones; Health Point, Energy Point, Weapon System, Bullet System, and Fighting Style. It'd use Graal Kingdoms; Mapping (.GMAP) to make terrain 3D, and there Weapon System (for Swords being used).

That's about it. Everything else would probly need to be rebuilt from scratch.

I'll hopefully get the chance to talk to you about this when I get back from school. Thankfully, I go to tec, so I'll be getting out at 12 today. :D
(Regular school gets out at 2:14) ;)

*Edit

I really have to go, so I'll comment Huwa's post, and IXI's post when I get back.
Sorry Guys. :cry:

Draenin
09-22-2006, 04:24 PM
What in blue f*** are you all on? This same idea was proposed in a different way about two threads ago, and the general consensus was that the concept is a failure, and with a lot of templated information thrown into visuals, suddenly it's a bright new freaking day. Get a power drill and give yourselves lobotomies, then come back when you've truncated enough out of your skulls to prevent further pollution of human thought.

bahamutstevetff
09-22-2006, 04:26 PM
What in blue f*** are you all on? This same idea was proposed in a different way about two threads ago, and the general consensus was that the concept is a failure, and with a lot of templated information thrown into visuals, suddenly it's a bright new freaking day. Get a power drill and give yourselves lobotomies, then come back when you've truncated enough out of your skulls to prevent further pollution of human thought.

what the hell did you just say.

Draenin
09-22-2006, 04:28 PM
DRILL A HOLE THROUGH YOUR HEAD TO GET THE STUPID OUT KTHX



caps

SayianOozaru
09-22-2006, 04:31 PM
:whatever:

Last post and Im out.

Draenin, the one your talking about, Stone_Henge brang up. I took his idea, added in alot of new details, and how systems would work, and also threw in a couple of Gfx Templates. I got more in-to details about how the game would work, so everyone got to see what I meant by "Zone RPG". Stone_Henge was talking about an "Era-Like" rpg, if I remember correctly. This type of RPG would be FAR greater, and FAR better than Era, Zone, and GK. Like I said, I like RPG's like GK, but I hate Swords. I love Gun games, but I hate Arcade like servers. So why not make a RPG that has Guns? Thats all this idea is about. :)

bahamutstevetff
09-22-2006, 04:35 PM
DRILL A HOLE THROUGH YOUR HEAD TO GET THE STUPID OUT KTHX



caps

get bent. so what if im not intellectual or smart? atleast im not a fkin nerd like you.

Huwajux
09-22-2006, 04:50 PM
DRILL A HOLE THROUGH YOUR HEAD TO GET THE STUPID OUT KTHX
What have you got against this idea? New concepts could be brought in. It would be very fun to play. E.G. Buying a house, getting a job (Police, army), brand new weapons, tactical weapons, new tilesets, new GUI, new system, new scripts and new maps. Why are you so moody? :(
Stone_Henge
It's Stone_Tower. :p

Draenin
09-22-2006, 06:28 PM
get bent.What is this, the hip phrase of the day or something? It's the second time I've heard it in the same day. Cram it, neanderthal.
Why are you so moody? :(Perhaps it's because a lot of things are in decline, and I really hate seeing ideas recycled. Shortly, I'll be leaving Zone and Kingdoms for a while, and don't want to see crap going down on a bad note.

Sayian, I respect your attempt to work on an integration of ideas, but you're taking the wrong approach with it. These ideas are just a compilation of information that will not work out. If you want ideas for a new futuristic server based on Zone or whatever, ask me and I'll do my best to put out some documentation of things that would work. But please, for the love of god, don't pick random things out here and there, superglue them together, and call it a plan. I can actually see how a futuristic RPG server would work, (Hell, look at SWG) but it's not going to work on Crossfire's engine. That engine does not fly well with nearly any server, since the amount of content needed to fill in the gaps is ridiculous. Zone is successful because it has a simple concept. That is no longer so when you add a completely new engine to it.

bahamutstevetff
09-22-2006, 06:39 PM
its a ****in great idea, sayian put a hell of a lot of thought/time and work into this, your out ****in numbered so be a moody twat with your head up your arse, most of the decent people like the idea, so shut up and live with it your arrogand twat.

gratz on idea sayian.

Firechamp1
09-22-2006, 08:01 PM
Your Idea So ****ing Rocks!

Stone_Tower
09-22-2006, 09:57 PM
Well now I know Zone just except's ideas for repuatation or how long you've been playing........This is a good idea but people didnt like mine because of the leveling idea, this is the same thing. Also maybe make it so you can choose whether or not to show your kills and deaths because people brag about their stats which cuases alot of fights. Zone would need a complete reset for this meaning all your stats, money, items, and lists that you are on will be erased.

MisterMastermind
09-22-2006, 11:36 PM
No. Zone is an arcade style game, not an RPG.

dude2020
09-22-2006, 11:43 PM
No. Zone is an arcade style game, not an RPG.TYvm ^^

pooper200000
09-22-2006, 11:52 PM
What in blue f*** are you all on? This same idea was proposed in a different way about two threads ago, and the general consensus was that the concept is a failure, and with a lot of templated information thrown into visuals, suddenly it's a bright new freaking day. Get a power drill and give yourselves lobotomies.

Already did that one. :pluffy:
I understnad if you disagree with this i am not in love with it either. Maybe we can have a cabal against the idea. I wouldn't mind it and would consider it fun as long as it was a different server seeing as I love zone and have neverf found it boring. WEll except for when I tr to bug osomene for events like vulcan.

Stone_Tower
09-23-2006, 01:15 AM
No. Zone is an arcade style game, not an RPG.

Dont ruin all the fun, think of all the work he put into this idea. Also see bad ideas help, my bad idea, helped trigger this good idea. Great idea! :cool:

pooper200000
09-23-2006, 01:17 AM
Dont ruin all the fun, think of all the work he put into this idea. Also see bad ideas help, my bad idea, helped trigger this good idea. Great idea! :cool:

This idea was coming even without your help.

Stone_Tower
09-23-2006, 01:24 AM
This idea was coming even without your help.


You can predict the future? Your going to be famous some day! Clearly he got the overall idea from me, he just made it better and went more in-depth, dont tell me otherwise.

pooper200000
09-23-2006, 01:27 AM
You can predict the future? Your going to be famous some day! Clearly he got the overall idea from me, he just made it better and went more in-depth, dont tell me otherwise.

OK i won't say i was thinking of posting it if the ocmbined playercounts of teh worlds got below a certain amount :pluffy:

konidias
09-23-2006, 04:52 AM
its a ****in great idea, sayian put a hell of a lot of thought/time and work into this, your out ****in numbered so be a moody twat with your head up your arse, most of the decent people like the idea, so shut up and live with it your arrogand twat.

gratz on idea sayian.
Wow... my 8 year old niece is more mature than you are.

Just because you like the idea does not mean it's a great idea and should be executed. Also just because he put a lot of thought, time and work into this does not mean it's a good idea.

I have to agree with the "non-decent" people and say that this is a horrible idea, and the reason is simple (and was stated a few posts above me)

Zone is an arcade style game. A game where you just jump in and play and jump out without having to worry about leveling up and obtaining stronger armor and items. Turning it into an RPG is like turning Street Fighter into a puzzle game. While the idea might seem omgkilleramazingawesome because you're combining two concepts, it doesn't exactly mean it will end up that great.

Anybody who shows such a lack of maturity shouldn't even be allowed to have their opinion be heard. Come back and post when you're not going to call people "twats" and put someone down because you and 3 other people don't like their opinion.

Draenin
09-23-2006, 05:00 AM
Wow... my 8 year old niece is more mature than you are.

Just because you like the idea does not mean it's a great idea and should be executed. Also just because he put a lot of thought, time and work into this does not mean it's a good idea.

I have to agree with the "non-decent" people and say that this is a horrible idea, and the reason is simple (and was stated a few posts above me)

Zone is an arcade style game. A game where you just jump in and play and jump out without having to worry about leveling up and obtaining stronger armor and items. Turning it into an RPG is like turning Street Fighter into a puzzle game. While the idea might seem omgkilleramazingawesome because you're combining two concepts, it doesn't exactly mean it will end up that great.

Anybody who shows such a lack of maturity shouldn't even be allowed to have their opinion be heard. Come back and post when you're not going to call people "twats" and put someone down because you and 3 other people don't like their opinion.For once, Konidias, I'd like to thank you for something. :]

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2006, 08:25 AM
"zone is an arcade style server, not an RPG".......exactly why its so god damn ****in **** boaring and repetetive, what the hell is wrong with change. i wonder who else niticed the GK players are the ones who are considering the idea distainfully ¬.¬

Crono
09-23-2006, 01:13 PM
you're right IXI, let's turn Zone into a racing server where all you do is race mechs, speeders, and such. I MEAN CHANGE IS GOOD RIGHT?

:rolleyes:

pooper200000
09-23-2006, 01:35 PM
you're right IXI, let's turn Zone into a racing server where all you do is race mechs, speeders, and such. I MEAN CHANGE IS GOOD RIGHT?

:rolleyes:

I propsed as a different server. Change is good so yes make a world like that just don't killl 2 good servers to do it. Im not entierelyl iking this idea because I see a large lack of how they would carry it out.

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2006, 03:08 PM
crono shut up, i didnt say make zone a random ****ty server like a mech racing server, i said an RPG zone is a well good idea, sayin explained it very very well and u has made it look damn possible, the zone RPG server would be great.

Crono
09-23-2006, 03:11 PM
crono shut up, i didnt say make zone a random ****ty server like a mech racing server, i said an RPG zone is a well good idea, sayin explained it very very well and u has made it look damn possible, the zone RPG server would be great.

RPG = not zone and will never fit

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2006, 03:15 PM
you=be quiet, zone rpg will be great, u dont know ****, era and gk players r prolly scares zone rps would out do their servers.

Crono
09-23-2006, 03:21 PM
you=be quiet, zone rpg will be great, u dont know ****, era and gk players r prolly scares zone rps would out do their servers.

What the hell are you talking about?

YEAH LETS RUN AROUND AND HIT BOTS AND GAIN EXP SO I CAN LEVEL UP "DUAL WIELD PISTOLS"

No. Zone is a game where you log in, and own. Like Counterstrike and such.

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2006, 03:25 PM
no one is saying take zone away, re make a new ****in server, if you wanna just log in and own then log onto zone, if you wanna lvl up and kill bots and play a RPG game then log onto zone RPG! so shush swede :D

Crono
09-23-2006, 03:28 PM
no one is saying take zone away, re make a new ****in server, if you wanna just log in and own then log onto zone, if you wanna lvl up and kill bots and play a RPG game then log onto zone RPG! so shush swede :D

It's still a stupid idea. It's like saying yeah I want GK in a log on and own mode. You log in and have a selection of different swords and such and kill eachother.

It doesn't work that way.

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2006, 03:29 PM
it would be good if done right.

Crono
09-23-2006, 03:38 PM
it would be good if done right.

Or you can just play Maloria or Zodiac?

MrsMastermind
09-23-2006, 05:37 PM
Hate it.

Bl0nkt
09-23-2006, 07:01 PM
This idea, I hate to admit, is very good.

I'd suggest making a Zone -RPG server.

someonesomewhere
09-23-2006, 07:44 PM
Don't like it too much

Maybe it doesn't look good on paper, but it could be fun. Who knows...

Crono
09-23-2006, 08:25 PM
I'd suggest making a Zone -RPG server.

Think we could have an Era -RPG server too?

Draenin
09-23-2006, 08:40 PM
if you wanna lvl upThat doesn't make sense. Here's why.

Guns are made for shooting people in the face, crotch, etc, and it generally doesn't take a whole ton of bullets to turn someone into a pile of bloody mush.

It takes a lot of power in your arms to beat someone to death with a piece of wood.

Guns = Many oppotunities for a challenge.
No guns = Few opportunities for a challenge.


Essentially, you'd be eliminating the challenge of people being as good or better than you, since levels would easily become leverage in a fight. So, way down the road, you would get bored of it even faster, and quit sooner.

invaderzim66889
09-23-2006, 10:22 PM
its a ****in great idea, sayian put a hell of a lot of thought/time and work into this, your out ****in numbered so be a moody twat with your head up your arse, most of the decent people like the idea, so shut up and live with it your arrogand twat.

gratz on idea sayian.

Lol British.

(Spam)

Maybe just make an RPG planet on Zone? Then when you leave your stats from Iricia, Koth, and all the others turns back to what it was. And if you re-enter the RPG planet you get those stats back. That way a new server doesn't have to be made but there is a new style of play in Zone.

bahamutstevetff
09-24-2006, 06:10 AM
god....i give up. bad night, and im prolly gonna go to jail.

Crono
09-24-2006, 03:27 PM
Maybe just make an RPG planet on Zone?

Maybe just make an RPG city on every server? And if they already have RPG, LETS MAKE AN ARCADE WORLD FOR EVERY SERVER TOO! DAMN IM A SMART ZONE PLAYER THOUGH IM 12 YEARS OLD AND SUCK AT EVERYTHING ELSE BUT ZONE ^_^_^_^

[/typicalzoneplayer]

MisterMastermind
09-24-2006, 04:27 PM
Maybe just make an RPG city on every server? And if they already have RPG, LETS MAKE AN ARCADE WORLD FOR EVERY SERVER TOO! DAMN IM A SMART ZONE PLAYER THOUGH IM 12 YEARS OLD AND SUCK AT EVERYTHING ELSE BUT ZONE ^_^_^_^

[/typicalzoneplayer]
S: Sam needs to stop deleting my posts.:mad: Now I'll repeat myself and change the language. I hate having to use my cyber-shovel to dig through all this cr*p to get to the small amount of intelligent thought hidden underneath.

Sulukra
09-24-2006, 04:32 PM
S: Sam needs to stop deleting my posts.:mad: Now I'll repeat myself and change the language. I hate having to use my cyber-shovel to dig through all this cr*p to get to the small amount of intelligent thought hidden underneath.

You should be cyber smacked with your cyber shovel ;)

However, I do quite agree; theres alot of unintelligent spam kickin' round these parts.

alexrox222
09-24-2006, 06:14 PM
I like the idea but maybe we could keep zone and it could be a third gold server?

Sulukra
09-24-2006, 06:59 PM
I like the idea but maybe we could keep zone and it could be a third gold server?

Thats what everyone has been saying for the last 5 pages.

But, I don't like this idea for a few reasons. The idea of a Gun RPG is interesting (Maybe not good, but interesting) and if you think Zone is repetitive, think about it like this.

Lets say you have maxed out stats. On current Zone, that just means you can shoot more bullets then someone (Ammo) or have better guns (Buyables and event guns). Now, most of Zone's playerbase is trial players. Now that you have your maxed out stats that you have worked oh so hard for, you walk up to those weak, unleveled trials.

And you shoot them. You inflict damage, their bullets don't do anything because they are weak, unleveled trials. I mean, on current Zone, you can walk in and get owned by almost anyone (Or maybe thats just me x_x) and, on this second Zone, you don't. You can only get owned by those five or six other people who have the awesome stats that you do, and wow! Even less challenging!

If you don't understand the picture I painted there, go see Draenin in the medical office and his drill.

Draenin
09-24-2006, 07:01 PM
You should be cyber smacked with your cyber shovel

However, I do quite agree; theres alot of unintelligent spam kickin' round these parts.You yell at someone and then agree with them quoting only one part of the post. :whatever: Sort out your priorities.

someonesomewhere
09-24-2006, 07:54 PM
blah.

Most people seem to forget about that trial part

Since Zone is really the only server where trials can stand up to p2ps

Zulu15
09-24-2006, 08:15 PM
Roleplaying game, modeled around guns is not a good idea, and that's basicaly all I have against it. Oh and also the whole accuracy thing; Having your bullets centralized is sometimes a bad thing, you know. Add some moves into the server and I might agree with you on a very small ammount, but I still don't find this idea very apealing to me. At any rate I'm not going to get very into it, I don't have any gold left and I'm not upgrading anytime soon so it's none of my concern, just one thing to say: Bye bye Muramasa

Huwajux
09-24-2006, 08:33 PM
You guys are very narrow minded. Just because the title has the word "Zone" in it, next to "RPG" jump-starts you into "l0l ****e idae" mode. All great ideas start off as something and just because the idea was originally based on Zone becoming an RPG gun server, doesn't mean it will.

Sayian's concept could obviously and easily begin as a new server instead of taking away Zone's key gameplay. Think about it. The idea isn't that bad. You just have to see it in a different light. Don't go throwing realistic comebacks at me with "lol irl hwo cud u lvl up wit gunz?! taeks no physical powre". GRAAL CAN BE WHATEVER THE **** IT WANTS TO BE! That's what Stefan and Unixmad created it for (I presume :P)! Just because the idea sounds dodgy on paper doesn't mean it's going to suck. It's a crazy idea, and that's exactly why it should be put into action!

Hey, if it flops, it flops. But with the proper care and dedication we could have something special right infront of us. Just look at UN, what kind of plot is that? It's a load of jumbled **** thrown together, yet it is successful as hell. I know it's noob friendly, but if we just think about the situation nearly every problem thrown at us could be overcome. Just give something a chance and see it in a positive light and think about all the little possibilities it could hold.

But myself, I am not too keen on something like a big city with guns and randomly blasting at people and acting gangsta, go to Era if you want that. I'm just think about different cities, getting different jobs, police, army, RAF, Navy (lol), make a living off of whatever you can find to do. E.G. Fishing, hitman whatever. New ideas for jobs could be submitted. I'm not talking about such a gun crazy server, in fact, you could enjoy the server without having guns at all!

Referring back to the army etc of what I said. You could join a certain city and fight for it. This is where all the crazy gun play can happen. But with some nice tactics and having to rely on teammates. Random situations you can be thrown into. You have something important to deliver back to your city that could give an edge in the war. Different maps can be used for those different situations. A Z axis could be introduced. When you crawl behind sandbags or whatever the bullets do not hit you, but standing up, they do. And when I read back over this later what I'm saying may seem confusing, but just reply to key points and I'll try and smooth it out. :P

Crono
09-24-2006, 08:40 PM
That's what Stefan and Unixmad created it for (I presume :P)!

Just stefan.

Just because the idea sounds dodgy on paper doesn't mean it's going to suck. It's a crazy idea, and that's exactly why it should be put into action!

Go for it.

Hey, if it flops, it flops. But with the proper care and dedication we could have something special right infront of us. Just look at UN, what kind of plot is that? It's a load of jumbled **** thrown together, yet it is successful as hell. I know it's noob friendly, but if we just think about the situation nearly

Because it's the most Graalian server on the playerlist.

every problem thrown at us could be overcome. Just give something a chance and see it in a positive light and think about all the little possibilities it could hold.

Yeah lets make a server where you run around as a normal graal player trying to kill me dressed up as pluffy. JUST THINK OF IT IN A POSITIVE SENSE OK?

Huwajux
09-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Just stefan.
Go for it.
Because it's the most Graalian server on the playerlist.
Yeah lets make a server where you run around as a normal graal player trying to kill me dressed up as pluffy. JUST THINK OF IT IN A POSITIVE SENSE OK?
Ok.
Ok.
Ok(?)
Positive sense, eh? IT COULD BE FUN!?

Crono
09-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Ok.
Ok.
Ok(?)
Positive sense, eh? IT COULD BE FUN!?

a lot of things could be fun but usually aren't

pooper200000
09-24-2006, 09:03 PM
a lot of things could be fun but usually aren't

It would be for a while until we knew your tricks1 :pluffy:

jkool666
09-24-2006, 10:52 PM
You know, I've actually reconsidered this idea. I think its alright, and really well planed out, but it wouldn't fit Zone. Zone just wouldn't work being PvsP while being an RPG, and if PvsP was taken out, Zone would be ruined. Zone would turn into a game where the player whos online more wins.

Crono
09-24-2006, 11:11 PM
It doesn't make sense, how could you upgrade the amount of damage A BULLET does? Sure you could say LOL HEADSHOT but not a ****ing bullet. lol

SayianOozaru
09-25-2006, 01:09 AM
It doesn't make sense, how could you upgrade the amount of damage A BULLET does? Sure you could say LOL HEADSHOT but not a ****ing bullet. lol

ORLY?!

Armor-piercing ammunition is used to penetrate hardened armored targets such as body armor, vehicle armor, concrete, tanks and other defenses, depending on the caliber of the firearms. Armor-piercing ammunition consists of a hardened steel, tungsten-carbide, or depleted-uranium penetrator enclosed within a softer material, such as copper or aluminum. Armor-piercing ammunition can range from rifle and pistol caliber rounds all the way up to tank rounds.

pwnt :confused:

Thats how the bullets would do more damage. We have bullets right now, that can either;
a)Just shoot you
b)Put a hole the size of your fist in you
c)Pierce through body armor
d)Pierce through armored vechiles
So why, in the year 3000 or w/e, cant we have the same type of bullets? We would just count this as doing more damage, instead of piercing through vechiles, and such.

:noob:

:D

konidias
09-25-2006, 07:43 AM
It's not that a gun based RPG wouldn't work. (look at Grand Theft Auto) It's just that it's not cut out for Zone and there is nowhere near enough thought put into this idea for it to work well.

There is an online game that is entirely based on shooting yet it has RP elements where you can buy clothing and armor and better weapons and items and stuff. The name of the game starts with a G and ends with "unz". But again, it's in a totally different environment and there still isn't much roleplaying involved.

It's just not as simple to make an MMORPG based on shooting guns.

Crono
09-25-2006, 01:21 PM
ORLY?!



pwnt :confused:

Thats how the bullets would do more damage. We have bullets right now, that can either;
a)Just shoot you
b)Put a hole the size of your fist in you
c)Pierce through body armor
d)Pierce through armored vechiles
So why, in the year 3000 or w/e, cant we have the same type of bullets? We would just count this as doing more damage, instead of piercing through vechiles, and such.

:noob:

:D

According to your post you "upgrade your bullet damage" which means your bullets do more damage after you magically level up. :noob: :noob: and :noob:

Jackel9
09-25-2006, 02:43 PM
The bullets should have status effects.

bahamutstevetff
09-25-2006, 06:54 PM
x.x

Stone_Tower
09-26-2006, 10:21 PM
Overall, the idea is great, even if Zone isnt an rpg calibur server, the idea was still great. Maybe remove the whole idea of leveling but add the concept of a Zone community instead of just 7 randomly placed maps.

alexrox222
09-26-2006, 10:28 PM
Thats what everyone has been saying for the last 5 pages.

I well I am sorry I just reread everything for you -Crono's pluffy here- I don't read entire forums did you not hear?

alexrox222
09-26-2006, 10:37 PM
omgThismay Opticns Show your signat

dude2020
09-26-2006, 11:27 PM
Overall, the idea is great, even if Zone isnt an rpg calibur server, the idea was still great. Maybe remove the whole idea of leveling but add the concept of a Zone community instead of just 7 randomly placed maps.If stefan thought zone would be a great RPG server he would of done it by now and No is a bad idea its a good idea for different servers but not zone

Sulukra
09-27-2006, 12:00 AM
I well I am sorry I just reread everything for you -Crono's pluffy here- I don't read entire forums did you not hear?

You say that as if you expect something -other- then pointless arguing to fill up a whole 5 pages in a thread in the Zone forums.

Crono
09-27-2006, 01:39 AM
omgThismay Opticns Show your signat

Ok seriously now, what the hell is up with you? :noob: :noob:

Jackel9
09-27-2006, 03:52 PM
This thread went off topic

Crono
09-27-2006, 04:53 PM
This thread went off topic

You act like your post was putting it BACK on topic when infact it was off topic. Being off topic is not against the forum rules, I don't see what the big deal is.

bahamutstevetff
09-27-2006, 06:43 PM
You act like your post was putting it BACK on topic when infact it was off topic. Being off topic is not against the forum rules, I don't see what the big deal is.

go to bed.

Crono
09-27-2006, 08:03 PM
go to bed.

You're telling someone older than you to go to bed. :noob:

SayianOozaru
09-27-2006, 10:50 PM
D:

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! -> :cry:

D:

Stone_Tower
09-28-2006, 05:04 AM
If stefan thought zone would be a great RPG server he would of done it by now and No is a bad idea its a good idea for different servers but not zone

It's a good idea, just because you dont like it means it's bad. Im not saying add it, but make an idea that long and detailed, I know you would never do that. That is the point im trying to make......

MisterMastermind
09-28-2006, 05:14 AM
It's a good idea, just because you dont like it means it's bad. Im not saying add it, but make an idea that long and detailed, I know you would never do that. That is the point im trying to make......
So you're just after proving him wrong, and not proving his opinion wrong. According to your logic, if I spent three days straight typing pages about why appirces need to be raised to 400 damage a bullet and why I need 8- hp then nobody except people that would type for three days straight would be able to say no. You logic sucks.

Stone_Tower
09-28-2006, 05:17 AM
So you're just after proving him wrong, and not proving his opinion wrong. According to your logic, if I spent three days straight typing pages about why appirces need to be raised to 400 damage a bullet and why I need 8- hp then nobody except people that would type for three days straight would be able to say no. You logic sucks.

Read the idea and you will get my point, the idea is great but wont be added. Stop being so immature and grow up for once. The forums do not need people to just complain in every post they make, stop and think before you type in your statement.

MisterMastermind
09-28-2006, 05:22 AM
Read the idea and you will get my point, the idea is great but wont be added.The idea takes away Zone's unique quality. Stop being so immature and grow up for once.You've stated this many times before and you have no reason to say this. Using "LOLOLGROWUPNEWB!" everytime somebody points out your biases is very childish. The forums do not need people to just complain in every post they make, stop and think before you type in your statement. So every negative opinion somebody has about an idea is complaining? Again, your logic sucks.

Stone_Tower
09-28-2006, 05:28 AM
The idea takes away Zone's unique quality.You've stated this many times before and you have no reason to say this. Using "LOLOLGROWUPNEWB!" everytime somebody points out your biases is very childish. So every negative opinion somebody has about an idea is complaining? Again, your logic sucks.

No, you could of said your thinking is bad, not your logic sucks, saying you logic sucks reminds me of a 6th grader trying to act tough in front of his friends. I dont want to fight, post to get back at me but I wont respond, I dont need to waste my time on fighting with you when I could be doing better things.

Specs of this topic:
-Great idea
-50% like it, and 50% hate it. (estimated)
-Wont be added because it would change the complextion of zone, I like the idea and I would hope it got added.

Jackel9
09-28-2006, 03:02 PM
You act like your post was putting it BACK on topic when infact it was off topic. Being off topic is not against the forum rules, I don't see what the big deal is.
Lol Cry Kid

bahamutstevetff
09-28-2006, 06:20 PM
You're telling someone older than you to go to bed. :noob:

see you later then.

Crono
09-28-2006, 06:55 PM
Lol Cry Kid

You are telling me? LOL

see you later then.

Don't you have some crying-to-emo-music to be doing?

bahamutstevetff
09-28-2006, 07:01 PM
your overall veiws on emos r as warped as the daily mails? streotypical retard, get a life.

Crono
09-28-2006, 07:03 PM
your overall veiws on emos r as warped as the daily mails? streotypical retard, get a life.

I'm acting like the average zone player. Is this a crime?

I have a life and it's much better than yours. ;)

bahamutstevetff
09-28-2006, 07:04 PM
i seriosly doubt that, my life used to suck, but now i ****in love life.

Crono
09-28-2006, 07:05 PM
i seriosly doubt that, my life used to suck, but now i ****in love life.

Ok that's great.

Stone_Tower
09-28-2006, 09:09 PM
Time to call for Darlene!

This topic went way off of it's point, it wont be added, sorry to all those who wanted it, close please.....

Crono
09-28-2006, 09:31 PM
Time to call for Darlene!

This topic went way off of it's point, it wont be added, sorry to all those who wanted it, close please.....

You didn't even make the thread to begin with, I've always hated people who go LOCK DIS THREAD PLEASE

No. We're having a discussion here, we're here to post which is the whole point of a forum.

Stone_Tower
09-28-2006, 11:15 PM
You didn't even make the thread to begin with, I've always hated people who go LOCK DIS THREAD PLEASE

No. We're having a discussion here, we're here to post which is the whole point of a forum.

Dont post about emo music or saying your life is so good, no one really cares and if you do want to talk about that stuff save it for the ngrt's.

MrsMastermind
09-29-2006, 01:16 AM
You're all so ****ing dumb. :\

dude2020
09-29-2006, 01:27 AM
You're all so ****ing dumb. :\:cry:

MisterMastermind
09-29-2006, 01:48 AM
You're all so ****ing dumb. :\

Yes, why yes I am.

someonesomewhere
09-29-2006, 02:19 AM
No, you could of said your thinking is bad, not your logic sucks, saying you logic sucks reminds me of a 6th grader trying to act tough in front of his friends. I dont want to fight, post to get back at me but I wont respond, I dont need to waste my time on fighting with you when I could be doing better things.


And once again you prove his point by calling him immature. No, seriously, your logic does suck, get used to people saying it.

Dont post about emo music or saying your life is so good, no one really cares and if you do want to talk about that stuff save it for the ngrt's.
sar·casm- a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual

You're all so ****ing dumb. :\

You need to log on more often :(

Stone_Tower
09-29-2006, 03:34 AM
You can say my logic sucks but my IQ is far greater then the average Zone player, which is sad because that isnt much to brag about. You can say my logic sucks but you need to grow up. Saying things like:

"Your a noob"
"Your all so ****ing dumb"

and things along that nature are immature, im guessing most of you are under 10 years of age.

MisterMastermind
09-29-2006, 06:06 AM
You can say my logic sucks but my IQ is far greater then the average Zone player, which is sad because that isnt much to brag about. You can say my logic sucks but you need to grow up. Saying things like:

"Your a noob"
"Your all so ****ing dumb"

and things along that nature are immature, im guessing most of you are under 10 years of age.
The bold words are said too much. You need to hear the underlined words more often.

bahamutstevetff
09-29-2006, 06:59 PM
lol the only zoners i know who seem to have lives r sayian touya jin and dark, and to be fair jo and venom, the rest of you r just sad nerds, who care too much.

Sam
09-29-2006, 07:18 PM
Rip