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Tyhm
03-27-2001, 01:11 PM
All Sælei info goes here.

Briefing:
the æ is alt-0230. Sælei are basically gonna be the Graal "sprites", not quite Faeries, but close. Playable, obviously, some magic, they can train in offensive or defensive (black or white), they fly over all terrain, attack with a bow instead of a sword, maybe a very tiny bow...
Default skins I've come up with so far, a girl with butterfly wings, an evil girl with bat wings, you can pretty much go crazy from there...yellowjackets, mosquitos, whatever. They're supposed to be support characters, so they're not so much for questing alone as helping others quest, thus the healing magic and/or attack magic (fireball?)

Lion'el-Jonson
03-27-2001, 02:28 PM
The "little bow" could also shoot maybe a bit faster and now freeze the player for so long

FatherDante
03-27-2001, 03:54 PM
Probably better that it just do small damage but have infinite shots, in my opinion.

If there was one I'd like to be a fairy. I like cute things.

grim_squeaker_x
03-27-2001, 09:06 PM
If they were there I'd probably try playing as both of the types of Sælei... I'm willing to help with the scripting and gani parts of course when someone has made the actual templates with pictures.
And perhaps the Sælei should be able to fly over certain things that other races cannot?

Psyker
03-27-2001, 10:50 PM
hmm... what if the Sælae had a slingshot as a default weapon, and kept upgrading it..?

Tyhm
03-28-2001, 03:59 AM
I could adapt the Cane of Brugara code, make a mini-bow...does 0 damage by default, and that's their "sword"...I might even be able to pull the arrow graphic from the skin itself, so you can have color-coordinated mini-arrows...^__^
Then you can upgrade it to one that does damage, and that'd cost real arrows...maybe put that in the template too, 3 powers of arrow (4 directions) and a magic spell, off to the right where everyone puts their signature.
If I used an array, you could probably have like 50 darts on screen at once or so...per Sælei...so they could certainly shoot faster...damage detect behind the dart every cycle, it'd be able to shoot faster too...definitely doable.

Yes, the Sælei would be able to fly over anything, and if the bow and arrow is in the skin, you could certainly make a slingshot Sælei. ^_^

Aidoggy
03-28-2001, 04:42 AM
Sounds Cool

Psyker
03-28-2001, 06:33 AM
Hmm... what if they had two techniques, physical and magical?

Physical: Slingshot, bow and arrows, mini-crossbow, etc.
Magical: Tiny fireball, small traveling explosion, etc.

Maybe you could have both traits at the same time, and be able to switch in between? I think that would be cool.

freddyfox
03-28-2001, 07:38 AM
I'm guessing since they're Faerie-like, they're going to have really poor defence and attack, correct?

Tyhm
03-28-2001, 08:01 AM
Yup. High speed, able to fly over anything, unable to complete quests...

Psyker
03-28-2001, 10:44 AM
High speed? Sounds like fun :D

Aidoggy
03-30-2001, 12:41 AM
Somebody make it already hehe

Lion'el-Jonson
03-30-2001, 12:48 AM
Vroom Vroom

Aidoggy
03-30-2001, 12:51 AM
Gabriel go zoooooooooooom hehe

Tyhm
03-30-2001, 02:57 AM
Again, the scripting's gonna be the easy part. The graphics might be the hardest part, plus I don't exactly have the slightest idea what stringvar the Bomys (and now the Zulites) use for health...so a healing spell would be moderately difficult. I could just add some code for a system NPC, but I no so very little about this new NPC server thing, I'd probably end up laying hearts.
=P

Slingshot, whatever, you can do all that with the GANIs...if the bow is a slingshot in the "skin", that's how it'll appear. If it's a flying catapult, then so be it, it doesn't really matter...

Aidoggy
03-30-2001, 05:17 AM
Of all the new races this one sounds tyhe most original and coolest, Tyhm Dont give up! Annoy admins till you get the things you want! gogogogogogogoogogo

Tyhm
03-30-2001, 06:34 AM
One thing at a time. Zulites are in the spotlight for now...once those are completed, more energy will be dedicated to the Sælei...but right now, everyone's working on that.

Aidoggy
04-01-2001, 12:45 AM
I wanna pet Saelei!
(cant be bothered with that alt stuff lol)

Tyhm
04-01-2001, 05:29 AM
I don't think Sælei should be pets...it's a little TOO Zelda to have a fairy following you around...strictly Player Characters.

crbgraal
04-06-2001, 06:38 AM
What about Vurtu-Players. Kinda like pets only wild. they arent ownd or controald by anyone.

Psyker
04-06-2001, 04:37 PM
Hostile sælei's. They charge after you and can put you to sleep with sprinkle powder!

crbgraal
04-07-2001, 08:16 AM
Neat idea.

Psyker
04-07-2001, 08:44 AM
They wouldn't be necessarilly harmful at all, just annoying...

Aidoggy
04-10-2001, 12:49 AM
At the worst it should irritate your eyes lol

Lion'el-Jonson
04-10-2001, 07:08 AM
And seel sleepingdust/crack :rolleyes::eek:

Zulithe
04-10-2001, 10:11 AM
Does anyone have any ideas for spells for the sælei? I was just thinking, you know how Graal now takes advantage of hardware accelerated graphics for lights and whatnot, well we could use all of that for spell effects too! Could make for some very stunning visuals, however I'm sure they take far more time to develop than normal .gif type effects but it would be worth it in the long run.

Besides, most people out there do have a hardware accelerator by now, and if they don't its an upgrade they greatly need to consider adding on. You can get them very cheap.

mystic_pheonix
04-10-2001, 11:18 AM
anyone made the graphics for thoses little things yet? i hate making graphics, but i can do alot of other stuff, i just hate making graphics :P

Psyker
04-10-2001, 02:33 PM
A blinding flash...

Lion'el-Jonson
04-10-2001, 06:14 PM
We could use the Float1v2 gani! I think its from Vali.

FatherDante
04-11-2001, 05:13 AM
I think what would own would be to have 3d graphics for magic!!!

That would be sooooooooooooo cool!

freddyfox
04-11-2001, 06:22 AM
You could use the light effects to creat neat new spells.
Heh

Fai
04-11-2001, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by freddyfox
You could use the light effects to creat neat new spells.
Heh

I TRIED THAT ONCE

It owned

Lion'el-Jonson
04-12-2001, 02:24 AM
Too bad lights suck for me :(

Aidoggy
04-28-2001, 10:43 PM
Yup Too bad =)

Zulithe
05-03-2001, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Lion'el-Jonson
Too bad lights suck for me :( You don't have a video card that supports them? You can get one very cheaply

Aidoggy
05-19-2001, 05:29 AM
yeah Video cards which support it are simple to find

GexGecko
05-23-2001, 07:51 AM
Get back to the subject!

General
05-24-2001, 07:33 AM
I have a graphics card that supports effects like that, i just have that damn Invalid floating point bug

CrazedMerlin
05-25-2001, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Aidoggy
Sounds Cool

toad1413
05-25-2001, 05:58 PM
Sorry, but if you are going to keep talking about video cards then make a new thread for it.

This is 'the official sælei thread', not 'the official video card thread'!!

Butz
06-14-2001, 05:58 AM
They shouldn't follow you all the time because like Tyhm said :

it's a little TOO Zelda to have a fairy following you around...

But how about if there's a place where you can hire them out as helpers by like paying by the day in gralats.(Graal Day mind you) then they can fly with you and use their magic to protect you from others who try to attack or PK you, (Or maybe you can give them battle commands like attack *playername* or defend me or they can cast a spell and whisk you away to safety..) There could even be a quest where you need to have one with you so it can fly in a little hole and push a button to open a door or something.
Just ideas really.

toad1413
06-14-2001, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by Butz
They shouldn't follow you all the time because like Tyhm said :

it's a little TOO Zelda to have a fairy following you around...

But how about if there's a place where you can hire them out as helpers by like paying by the day in gralats.(Graal Day mind you) then they can fly with you and use their magic to protect you from others who try to attack or PK you, (Or maybe you can give them battle commands like attack *playername* or defend me or they can cast a spell and whisk you away to safety..) There could even be a quest where you need to have one with you so it can fly in a little hole and push a button to open a door or something.
Just ideas really.


Good ideas

Brad0629
06-22-2001, 10:51 AM
you were saying how no pets could be there....but....maybe only like 3 could be put out....and you must find them...the firs 3 to find them gets them...they can be traded like bomys....only they are very rare and dont have like list commands....they just follow you around sort of as your conscience....but I dunno...:eek:

Iracious
06-23-2001, 10:58 AM
Anyone have any GFX to show what these things will look like?

Tyhm
06-24-2001, 08:11 AM
Kill 2 birds with one stone, as it were:

Think I should just develop this into a Sælei template?

AlkarenHyralt
06-26-2001, 02:52 PM
Hmmm its looking kewl Tyhm...Yeah develop it into a template.

FatherDante
06-27-2001, 04:44 AM
Gonna need more than just a flying animation. If we have that many images just for movement, it would need twice again the number for other stuff.

Then again, I guess they wouldn't have carrying, swimming, sitting, and others because they fly. hm.

Tyhm
06-27-2001, 07:28 AM
Really just needs attack, hurt, and dead. Plus projectile and health, if it's gonna be a meter, and I hope not.

Iracious
06-27-2001, 07:37 AM
Yes, develop, as in get rid of that awful artificial look

grim_squeaker_x
06-27-2001, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Tyhm
Really just needs attack, hurt, and dead. Plus projectile and health, if it's gonna be a meter, and I hope not. Yes something original is required... Perhaps something like a pie diagram?

Tyhm
07-03-2001, 07:19 AM
This is all I can be arsed to do for it right now, without any motivation...=_=;

Vash
07-16-2001, 09:12 PM
Neat, kinda of dissapointed in the skin though :\

Tyhm
07-17-2001, 03:02 AM
Yeah, well, noone wants to do the graphics so I use the ones I made for the bird on Classic.

BeZeRkEr
07-17-2001, 08:18 PM
i can gfx for j00

Tyhm
07-19-2001, 05:57 AM
Then please do!
Same format as the one I posted, but at the right side I need the Sælei getting hurt, casting a spell, firing, dying, and the arrow in 4 views. The first 3, hurt, casting and firing, should be in the same format, dying only needs 1 view, and the arrows should all be small enough to fit in 2 "squares"
The default should probably be relatively fairyish...nothing copyrighted, but still, the Bruges Bird is supposed to be a robotic bird, not a healing fairy...

BeZeRkEr
07-19-2001, 10:15 AM
hrmm
can you give me some more info?

Tyhm
07-20-2001, 11:18 AM
The first post in this thread says it all really...

BeZeRkEr
07-20-2001, 12:22 PM
lol
arg
i'll try and find some free time
im working on gfx for my server like all day

07-20-2001, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Tyhm
Then please do!
Same format as the one I posted, but at the right side I need the Sælei getting hurt, casting a spell, firing, dying, and the arrow in 4 views. The first 3, hurt, casting and firing, should be in the same format, dying only needs 1 view, and the arrows should all be small enough to fit in 2 "squares"
The default should probably be relatively fairyish...nothing copyrighted, but still, the Bruges Bird is supposed to be a robotic bird, not a healing fairy...

I'll look at the thingie tomorrow when I get back from work and try my hand. :) Don't expect anything uber-l33t though.

Aidoggy
07-23-2001, 08:47 PM
at least Make Something L33t then :D

Tyhm
12-12-2001, 05:49 AM
KawaiiSaRiA had some free time, and so the project has returned from obscurity.

Tyhm
12-13-2001, 11:34 AM
Pretty well along...having some trouble with warps and signs...plus it'll need to be ported to P2P

BeZeRkEr
12-13-2001, 11:40 AM
bezerker shall help y0

KawaiiSaRiA
12-14-2001, 02:12 AM
Saelei character art.

Faheria_LAT3
12-14-2001, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Saelei character art.

*mmm* Excuse me for a sec. *runs to the bathroom*

:P

KawaiiSaRiA
12-14-2001, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


*mmm* Excuse me for a sec. *runs to the bathroom*

:P
:confused: :megaeek:
...blah, you're gettin' a little too excited there...

Faheria_LAT3
12-14-2001, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

:confused: :megaeek:
...blah, you're gettin' a little too excited there...

Pardon me for trying to make a joke. ;\

KawaiiSaRiA
12-14-2001, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


Pardon me for trying to make a joke. ;\
lol I knew it was a joke, I was just playing along O.o
hehe.

Faheria_LAT3
12-14-2001, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

lol I knew it was a joke, I was just playing along O.o
hehe.

Ooooookay, nice graphic though.

agretsguest
01-10-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Tyhm
able to fly over anything

This is what is going to stop you from getting that race up :grrr:

Tyhm
01-11-2002, 05:27 AM
Blah, that's right, I fixed that a while ago...you can define an array of tiles they consider too high, currently set to the top tile of any given wall...so they can fly up castle walls, just not over them...

jeff335
01-11-2002, 07:27 AM
Or it could be ported to four singledir ganis, and make for Classic.

agretsguest
01-11-2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Tyhm
Blah, that's right, I fixed that a while ago...you can define an array of tiles they consider too high, currently set to the top tile of any given wall...so they can fly up castle walls, just not over them...

Ok Cool :D

Tyhm
01-11-2002, 10:52 AM
Nope, it relies on strictly G2K1 commands. While it would be possible to make one without, it'd suck and get taken down for squeezing past the rule anyway.

Oladahn
01-15-2002, 05:16 PM
Man i love this idea, heck my player already looks like an evil one... i could help with design sketches for different types of them if you'd like. But comp graphics just arent my forte if you know what I mean.

Oladahn
01-15-2002, 06:56 PM
Heheh, here's a goofy idea pic for some of the little guys, ones a flame elemental type and ones wind. The graphic sucks but I think it's funny, and I only spent 5 minutes on it. Just edit the script in Tyhm's beta to use this instead of wbirdt1.png, you can always change it back later.