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bahamutstevetff
08-10-2005, 09:21 AM
umm...i was thinking it would be cool 2 have a class that specialises in melee weapons

someonesomewhere
08-10-2005, 09:28 AM
Slow or Fast?
I'd prefer fast, because melee weapons are useless unless you can get close.
Should have every melee weapon, crossbow for rifle, and... no pistol. Firesupport-None. And should have maybe 1 grenade or something.

bahamutstevetff
08-10-2005, 10:32 AM
bout the same speed as scout n commando mebbe faster and ya cross boy and everyy melee weapon what bout beam

someonesomewhere
08-10-2005, 12:25 PM
Eh, beam too laggy, not really useable outside Zone Wars.

bahamutstevetff
08-10-2005, 04:46 PM
i was thinking no beam, beam sux anyway, i personally like the idea , what could the class be called

Akoalin
08-10-2005, 05:56 PM
That's pretty stupid. A scout speed person with a plasmasabre isn't the best idea... although a slow melee class would be great.

Crono
08-10-2005, 06:15 PM
although a slow melee class would be great.

Explain :/

bahamutstevetff
08-10-2005, 06:17 PM
wuts the point in using melee weapons if u cant catch ppl. any1 can just run and shoot u

xAndrewx
08-10-2005, 06:43 PM
A map full of fast melee would be cool.
Super Ninja speed! D:

bahamutstevetff
08-10-2005, 07:07 PM
would be fun 2 have lots of mellee fights

MisterMastermind
08-10-2005, 10:23 PM
ummm... maybe like fast as scout but still slower than commando. bcuz if it's too fast there's no point really. The most fun you can have in my opinion with a sabre....is chasing down the little noobs who use commando and try to immitate the good ppl by using apps. ^^

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 05:44 AM
That's pretty stupid. A scout speed person with a plasmasabre isn't the best idea... although a slow melee class would be great.

u r right....scout would be WAY to fast 2 b using a plasma sabre mayb they should have the speed of a marine of sumthin

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 05:46 AM
nah marine's a little to slow i was thinking sumting like light infantry

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 05:49 AM
u r right....scout would be WAY to fast 2 b using a plasma sabre mayb they should have the speed of a marine of sumthin

LOL then u might as well just make marine a melee clas make it as fast as commando it would have:
FlameThrower
Crossbow
Kv9
Plasmasaber
Muramasa
Knife
And it would be called Combat Master :cool:

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 05:57 AM
LOL then u might as well just make marine a melee clas make it as fast as commando it would have:
FlameThrower
Crossbow
Kv9
Plasmasaber
Muramasa
Knife
And it would be called Combat Master :cool:

no scout is way 2 fast for melee weapons

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:06 AM
no scout is way 2 fast for melee weapons

Dude it's not like they will be invincible i mean it's not really fairwhen yer chasing sum 1 then they lead u to 2 commandos u have no hope of escaping now if u were faster then well u could out run them and save yer ass ^^

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:07 AM
Dude it's not like they will be invincible i mean it's not really fairwhen yer chasing sum 1 then they lead u to 2 commandos u have no hope of escaping now if u were faster then well u could out run them and save yer ass ^^

take zulu for instince

he uses muramasa...class is lightinfantry....he is hard 2 hit...think about that with scout speed???? it would b impossible zzzz :asleep:

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:11 AM
Yah but then think of this maybe muramasa and plasmasaber should be raised in rank req to use like Major or sumtin

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:14 AM
Yah but then think of this maybe muramasa and plasmasaber should be raised in rank req to use like Major or sumtin

ok how about this for melee class

Speed:Travel as fast as Scout but if u run for about 30 seconds your guy gets tired and than goes as slow as a defender (it takes 20 seconds to get stamina back)
Weapons:Plasma Sabre,Muramasa,Knifes,Electron...and ofcourse reapers(if u have them)

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 06:19 AM
nah, maybe like make him as fast as a scout but like 75hp max and named like ninja (lol) good idea or just spam x.x?

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:22 AM
ok how about this for melee class

Speed:Travel as fast as Scout but if u run for about 30 seconds your guy gets tired and than goes as slow as a defender (it takes 20 seconds to get stamina back)
Weapons:Plasma Sabre,Muramasa,Knifes,Electron...and ofcourse reapers(if u have them)

Nah stamina is added in too many games maybe they have a delayed attack time like 1 sec slower than a normal attack speed if runing

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:23 AM
nah, maybe like make him as fast as a scout but like 75hp max and named like ninja (lol) good idea or just spam x.x?

no way...how about this

Speed: It has the speed of commando but drains energy and lessens dmg by 5
Weapons: All melee type weapons

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:26 AM
HM how about's speed of scout but all dmg is reduced by 5

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:28 AM
HM how about's speed of scout but all dmg is reduced by 5

k....sounds good

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 06:29 AM
think about plasma sabres tho......they do 40 damage in 1 shot. (trust me i know this) so they'd do 35 damage still....thats enuff to kill a p2p in 3 shots, same as b4

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:30 AM
think about plasma sabres tho......they do 40 damage in 1 shot. (trust me i know this) so they'd do 35 damage still....thats enuff to kill a p2p in 3 shots, same as b4

Ok plasmasaber on iricia, alpha and deathmatch all do 30 dmg but the class is as fast as commando

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:31 AM
think about plasma sabres tho......they do 40 damage in 1 shot. (trust me i know this) so they'd do 35 damage still....thats enuff to kill a p2p in 3 shots, same as b4

ok how about this....speed is scout but plasma sabre does 20 a hit......muramasa does 20 a hit......knife does 10 a hit/25 a throw......electron does 10 a hit...and mayb a throw should b added 2 this????which would do 25

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 06:32 AM
make it scout and 33 damage lol i dont want them overpowered bcuz i admit it gets annoying.

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:33 AM
ok how about this....speed is scout but plasma sabre does 20 a hit......muramasa does 20 a hit......knife does 10 a hit/25 a throw......electron does 10 a hit...and mayb a throw should b added 2 this????which would do 25

Muramasa should do 20 but when it hit's them it sets them on fire cuz sum times they kill u cuz it's not an easy weapon to lame with

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:34 AM
Muramasa should do 20 but when it hit's them it sets them on fire cuz sum times they kill u cuz it's not an easy weapon to lame with

ok how about this....muramasa does 15 and puts players on fire for 5 seconds doing about 10 dmg

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 06:35 AM
ok how about this....speed is scout but plasma sabre does 20 a hit......muramasa does 20 a hit......knife does 10 a hit/25 a throw......electron does 10 a hit...and mayb a throw should b added 2 this????which would do 25
not really a throw more like a short range stun prod thing-a-ma-bobby and like 30 damage and a shorter range than knife throw. plasma like 30 a hit bcuz muramsa hits fasterand maybe increase the range of it to evn out muramasa/plasma

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:36 AM
not really a throw more like a short range stun prod thing-a-ma-bobby and like 30 damage and a shorter range than knife throw. plasma like 30 a hit bcuz muramsa hits fasterand maybe increase the range of it to evn out muramasa/plasma

Increase the size of muramasa so then it's like really huge and sexy and girls go oooo check out the zsize of that guys thing!

MisterMastermind
08-11-2005, 06:38 AM
Increase the size of muramasa so then it's like really huge and sexy and girls go oooo check out the zsize of that guys thing!
-.-" uhhh not what to say so..... Awesome idea! :cool: that would totally rock x.x

bahamutstevetff
08-11-2005, 07:54 AM
so is the melee class gonna go through if so whats it gonna be called

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 03:34 PM
so is the melee class gonna go through if so whats it gonna be called

Well seeing as how almost ALL of the weapons on this char are swords why not Weapon Master or Sword Master >_<

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:31 PM
so is the melee class gonna go through if so whats it gonna be called

it should b called Warrior

Plasma Sabre
Damage: 20 a hit
Energy:10 a swing
Freezing Time:0.26 seconds

Muramasa
Damage:15 a hit
Energy:8 a swing
Freezing Time:0.67 seconds

Knife
Damage: 8 a hit
Throw Damage: 20 a hit
Energy: 5 a swing
Throwing Energy: 10 a throw
Freezing Time: 0.20 seconds
Throw Freezing Time: 0.30 seconds

Electron
Damage: 10 a hit
Energy: 6 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.43 seconds

Reapers (if u have them)
Damage: 18 a hit
Energy: 10 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.54 seconds
Gun Damage: 10 a bullet
Gun Energy: 2 a shot
Freezing Time:0.87 seconds

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 06:34 PM
it should b called Warrior

Plasma Sabre
Damage: 20 a hit
Energy:10 a swing
Freezing Time:0.26 seconds

Muramasa
Damage:15 a hit
Energy:8 a swing
Freezing Time:0.67 seconds

Knife
Damage: 8 a hit
Throw Damage: 20 a hit
Energy: 5 a swing
Throwing Energy: 10 a throw
Freezing Time: 0.20 seconds
Throw Freezing Time: 0.30 seconds

Electron
Damage: 10 a hit
Energy: 6 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.43 seconds

Reapers (if u have them)
Damage: 18 a hit
Energy: 10 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.54 seconds
Gun Damage: 10 a bullet
Gun Energy: 2 a shot
Freezing Time:0.87 seconds
Meh I like it but muramasa should still do 20

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 06:42 PM
Meh I like it but muramasa should still do 20

iono...it would b a lil cheap then

anubis_wing
08-11-2005, 07:47 PM
iono...it would b a lil cheap then

Yah but then it would be fun maybe u could only add warrior to iricia or not iricia like scout

Wind_Master
08-11-2005, 09:05 PM
Yah but then it would be fun maybe u could only add warrior to iricia or not iricia like scout

mayb the muramsa should do 18 and the class warrior would b availiable on all maps

MisterMastermind
08-12-2005, 05:40 AM
mayeb it speeds up/slows down depends on the wepon your holding. that would bring a whole new lvl of strategy in-game.

Huwajux
08-12-2005, 10:34 AM
mayeb it speeds up/slows down depends on the wepon your holding. that would bring a whole new lvl of strategy in-game.
Good idea! :eek:

Bl0nkt
08-12-2005, 07:17 PM
it should b called Warrior

Plasma Sabre
Damage: 20 a hit
Energy:10 a swing
Freezing Time:0.26 seconds

Muramasa
Damage:15 a hit
Energy:8 a swing
Freezing Time:0.67 seconds

Knife
Damage: 8 a hit
Throw Damage: 20 a hit
Energy: 5 a swing
Throwing Energy: 10 a throw
Freezing Time: 0.20 seconds
Throw Freezing Time: 0.30 seconds

Electron
Damage: 10 a hit
Energy: 6 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.43 seconds

Reapers (if u have them)
Damage: 18 a hit
Energy: 10 a swing
Freezing Time: 0.54 seconds
Gun Damage: 10 a bullet
Gun Energy: 2 a shot
Freezing Time:0.87 seconds
Swing-swing-swing-swing-swing

How fast you can read that is how fast you could swing, according to your idea.

someonesomewhere
08-12-2005, 07:44 PM
I wish you people wouldn't post this much in two days. It'll take me forever to read all the new posts >.<
mayeb it speeds up/slows down depends on the wepon your holding. that would bring a whole new lvl of strategy in-game.
That works. I don't see why someone who is holding a chaingun should move at the same speed as someone who is holding two pistols >.>
Muramasa=Faster than plasma?

Wind_Master
08-12-2005, 10:12 PM
I wish you people wouldn't post this much in two days. It'll take me forever to read all the new posts >.<

That works. I don't see why someone who is holding a chaingun should move at the same speed as someone who is holding two pistols >.>
Muramasa=Faster than plasma?

ya...muramasa is faster than plasma

someonesomewhere
08-13-2005, 01:11 AM
You miss the point. I'm talking abut if you're holding a muramasa, you should go faster than when you're holding a plasma saber >.>

MisterMastermind
08-13-2005, 03:09 AM
yeah but i'mthinking lile put murasma on "s" key and plasma on "d" key so u can run up to them with murasma then chop them to pieces with plasma.... thats a whole new lvl of strategy...

Wind_Master
08-13-2005, 03:54 AM
You miss the point. I'm talking abut if you're holding a muramasa, you should go faster than when you're holding a plasma saber >.>

thats what i said....and if i didnt i meant 2 say that when holding heavier items or plasma items u go slower....(i.e u only go faster with pistols and muramasa and knife)

someonesomewhere
08-13-2005, 05:10 AM
The only problem is what Jar-Jar just posted: Could cause laming.

Wind_Master
08-13-2005, 05:21 AM
The only problem is what Jar-Jar just posted: Could cause laming.

ya but muramasa isnt that powerful...so no matter what the speed i still think sabre is cheap

bbabba
08-15-2005, 09:18 PM
its just 4 dmg less than a plas.its not bad is it?

anubis_wing
08-16-2005, 06:31 PM
ya but muramasa isnt that powerful...so no matter what the speed i still think sabre is cheap
Saber given to like the 3rd slowest class in zone lower the dmg give it to a faster class. Muramasa fast low dmg given to the like 3rd fastest class give it to a faster class lower the dmg by i don't know say 5 or slow down the attack speed

Wind_Master
08-23-2005, 03:06 AM
its just 4 dmg less than a plas.its not bad is it?

sabre seems 2 have an invisable extension 2 it and hits players w/o even touching them....thats y its cheap

Dante55555
08-23-2005, 05:49 AM
sabre seems 2 have an invisable extension 2 it and hits players w/o even touching them....thats y its cheap

Yea but hitting me with a saber is like impossible unless im inside or ontop of a base lol i just keep my distance and blow there ass off

anubis_wing
09-23-2005, 05:45 PM
I give this topic life again! Ok here's how I see it.
Speed: As fast as a commando
Weapons:
Plasma Saber Damage: 15-20
Muramasa 15-20
Combat knife: 15 stab, 30 throw
G18: 8 damage per bullet
Venom Sword (made by venom): 10 damage poison or 2 secs
Or instead of venom sword syringe.

bahamutstevetff
09-23-2005, 06:14 PM
I give this topic life again! Ok here's how I see it.
Speed: As fast as a commando
Weapons:
Plasma Saber Damage: 15-20
Muramasa 15-20
Combat knife: 15 stab, 30 throw
G18: 8 damage per bullet
Venom Sword (made by venom): 10 damage poison or 2 secs
Or instead of venom sword syringe.
sounds adequate

Wind_Master
09-23-2005, 10:02 PM
Yea but hitting me with a saber is like impossible unless im inside or ontop of a base lol i just keep my distance and blow there ass off

Ya but if you get hit it does so much. And sometimes it glitches and kills you in one hit.

bahamutstevetff
09-24-2005, 04:45 AM
yea i hate the saber its so over powered

Huwajux
09-24-2005, 09:50 AM
I give this topic life again! Ok here's how I see it.
Speed: As fast as a commando
Weapons:
Plasma Saber Damage: 15-20
Muramasa 15-20
Combat knife: 15 stab, 30 throw
G18: 8 damage per bullet
Venom Sword (made by venom): 10 damage poison or 2 secs
Or instead of venom sword syringe.
Actually sounds decent. Well done.
Now I don't have anything to complain about. :frown:

bahamutstevetff
09-24-2005, 01:58 PM
Actually sounds decent. Well done.
Now I don't have anything to complain about. :frown:

wow thats new, but sriosly stefan, could u take note of this thread, its kewl

Wind_Master
09-24-2005, 04:27 PM
wow thats new, but sriosly stefan, could u take note of this thread, its kewl

We should sorta not make any more ideas for awhile. Stefan stills has to upload all those heads and bodies and now this lol. I got 3 words for stefan. God Bless you lol.

anubis_wing
09-24-2005, 05:32 PM
We should sorta not make any more ideas for awhile. Stefan stills has to upload all those heads and bodies and now this lol. I got 3 words for stefan. God Bless you lol.
He's also gotta upload guild wars and make v4 available to the public also he has to really start working on graal-3d seeing as there's supposed to be a preview early next year.

Huwajux
09-25-2005, 11:44 AM
He's also gotta upload guild wars and make v4 available to the public also he has to really start working on graal-3d seeing as there's supposed to be a preview early next year.
Graal 3D lags so much for me. Killing snowmen is as hard as nails.

anubis_wing
09-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Graal 3D lags so much for me. Killing snowmen is as hard as nails.
You can get onto graal 3D how?

Huwajux
09-28-2005, 01:51 PM
You can get onto graal 3D how?
I suggest re-installing Graal. During the process it should come up with a box stating programs, if you wish to "Skip" or "Install" them. Look for Graal 3D on it. Click on the button which says skip, so it says a number like 1.04 or something like that. Now during your installation you will get Graal 3D included. I suggest not doing this until it is done up properly as it takea up a lot of room and it quite laggy.

anubis_wing
09-28-2005, 08:31 PM
I suggest re-installing Graal. During the process it should come up with a box stating programs, if you wish to "Skip" or "Install" them. Look for Graal 3D on it. Click on the button which says skip, so it says a number like 1.04 or something like that. Now during your installation you will get Graal 3D included. I suggest not doing this until it is done up properly as it takea up a lot of room and it quite laggy.
Ok then I just like Zone better ne ways.

ILikeBacon
09-29-2005, 12:17 AM
they should make the melee class called Jackel
have no heavy weapons, all melee weapons,1 or 2 autorifles (probable cross bow and smg),pipebombs or grenades and their hand guns either: aprippers,apprices,g18s(or all). their speed should be as fast as commando or they should take less damage then most classes or theyll be no point to it.

zim5354
09-29-2005, 12:50 AM
they should make the melee class called Jackel
have no heavy weapons, all melee weapons,1 or 2 autorifles (probable cross bow and smg),pipebombs or grenades and their hand guns either: aprippers,apprices,g18s(or all). their speed should be as fast as commando or they should take less damage then most classes or theyll be no point to it.

umm and do you know what melee means....

but anyway they should be faster then normal and take less damage AT A COST and using melee weapons isnt that hard i think they should give up something else maybe less hp but they take less damage or there energy recharges slower then normal or say there hp goes down by 25 but energy recharges 20 percent faster maybe and they take less damage but still they should have NO ranged weapons becuse its not melee and you guys want a melee class.....

ILikeBacon
09-29-2005, 01:02 AM
umm and do you know what melee means....

but anyway they should be faster then normal and take less damage AT A COST and using melee weapons isnt that hard i think they should give up something else maybe less hp but they take less damage or there energy recharges slower then normal or say there hp goes down by 25 but energy recharges 20 percent faster maybe and they take less damage but still they should have NO ranged weapons becuse its not melee and you guys want a melee class.....
eh,i guess

Wind_Master
09-29-2005, 02:54 AM
umm and do you know what melee means....

but anyway they should be faster then normal and take less damage AT A COST and using melee weapons isnt that hard i think they should give up something else maybe less hp but they take less damage or there energy recharges slower then normal or say there hp goes down by 25 but energy recharges 20 percent faster maybe and they take less damage but still they should have NO ranged weapons becuse its not melee and you guys want a melee class.....

No. Crossbow would be cheap and less damage? Are you sure you're thinking right? A melee class should have plasma sabre and muramasa and knifes and electron. No ranged weapons beside beam. In this class beam does NOT take heath from you. You're class speed will be like scout.

Their ya go. It should be something like that.

anubis_wing
09-29-2005, 03:10 AM
How's Elite:
Fast as Commando
Combat Weps:
Plasmasabre
Muramasa
Electron
Combat Knife
Handguns:
g18
Rifles:
(none)
FireSupport:
(none)

Wind_Master
09-29-2005, 04:59 AM
How's Elite:
Fast as Commando
Combat Weps:
Plasmasabre
Muramasa
Electron
Combat Knife
Handguns:
g18
Rifles:
(none)
FireSupport:
(none)

Sounds good.

bahamutstevetff
09-29-2005, 06:49 AM
no beam, its 2 laggy. and the venomsaber would be nice

Wind_Master
09-29-2005, 02:29 PM
no beam, its 2 laggy. and the venomsaber would be nice

I thought you said you had the best internet. How could you lag?

bahamutstevetff
09-29-2005, 04:33 PM
one beam i can handle, but a full map of beams i cant

ILikeBacon
09-29-2005, 06:29 PM
No. Crossbow would be cheap and less damage? Are you sure you're thinking right? A melee class should have plasma sabre and muramasa and knifes and electron. No ranged weapons beside beam. In this class beam does NOT take heath from you. You're class speed will be like scout.

Their ya go. It should be something like that.
that sounds better

bahamutstevetff
09-29-2005, 08:37 PM
yup ^_^

Wind_Master
09-29-2005, 09:38 PM
that sounds better


Thank you very much ^^

zim5354
09-29-2005, 11:20 PM
No. Crossbow would be cheap and less damage? Are you sure you're thinking right? A melee class should have plasma sabre and muramasa and knifes and electron. No ranged weapons beside beam. In this class beam does NOT take heath from you. You're class speed will be like scout.

Their ya go. It should be something like that.

its to avoid future problems people would complain folr a ranged weapon later and somehting would need to be given to them so why not a cross bow?...

Wind_Master
09-29-2005, 11:31 PM
its to avoid future problems people would complain folr a ranged weapon later and somehting would need to be given to them so why not a cross bow?...

Speed of commando. And a crossbow.

If you poisen them once. Their dead. Its cheap.

bahamutstevetff
09-30-2005, 06:21 AM
Speed of commando. And a crossbow.

If you poisen them once. Their dead. Its cheap.

yea, agreed