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StoneColdRichie
03-21-2001, 05:07 AM
http://www.rottencat.com/thegame/thugz/Jack1.png

He said that he is a co captain so he can't get fired, oh well, seems as if the person who wins will have to just have his tag taken away and have him cry about it to Stefan later. :(

http://www.rottencat.com/thegame/thugz/jack2.jpg

waar
03-21-2001, 05:17 AM
haha, "peanut brain"

03-21-2001, 05:23 AM
Jack is a creep.

Asuka
03-21-2001, 05:55 AM
Game isn't that a bit hypocritical you call people immature all the time. Maybe he thinks you have a peanut brain and maybe you do.

HiryuuX
03-21-2001, 05:57 AM
I don't think anyone who goes down to the level of using "***** FACE" should be a Police or any other Admin for that matter. Unless it is just playing with their friends.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 06:57 AM
Well, he arranged it with Stefan. I can't blam him, though, I'd want to defend my job too.

freddyfox
03-21-2001, 07:17 AM
Can't blam him?

Anyways, Jack should have his power taken away. He is actually violating some of the terms of agreements (Personal Conduct) presented on the page.


You may not verbally assault other players. Due to the nature of the game and the fact that there's often nothing better to do, Player Killing (PK) is currently allowed.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:22 AM
Oh, be a little forgiving vermain, everyone has typos. :(

You are correct that he violated the terms of agreement...

03-21-2001, 07:24 AM
Yes, Vermain is right. In the personal conduct page ON THE GRAAL2001 WEBSITE it says that pking is allowed.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:26 AM
I think the more important point is that his verbal abuse is against the license agreement.

Asuka
03-21-2001, 07:26 AM
The police are violating the terms of agreement for jailing people for pking because pking is allowed.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:27 AM
No, it doesn't say anywhere that players are not allowed to jail players for pking. I covered this in my"real deal about pking staff" thread.

Asuka
03-21-2001, 07:34 AM
if pking is allowed how can it be illegal?

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:35 AM
Pking is always legal. [groans] You have made a reversal fallacy.

Asuka
03-21-2001, 07:36 AM
If pking is legal how can someone be jailed for it?

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:37 AM
Jailing is not a revokal of service. Besides, allowing pking is not in the service agreement, it was in an old document that said "pking is currently allowed. Any changes can be made to that rule.

Psyker
03-21-2001, 07:37 AM
because PKing is annoying and is not that welcome on the G2K1.

Asuka
03-21-2001, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by FatherDante
Jailing is not a revokal of service. Besides, allowing pking is not in the service agreement, it was in an old document that said "pking is currently allowed. Any changes can be made to that rule.

Yeah your right but before it can be put in the service agreement that pking IS illegal there must be a month wait before it can go in effect.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:40 AM
It was never in the license agreement to begin with!

freddyfox
03-21-2001, 07:41 AM
*Evil cackle*
Pointing out everyone's bad spelling errors is part of my master plan to RULE THE WORLD!!!!!!! Sorry, I get out of hand when I talk about evil master plans

Asuka
03-21-2001, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by FatherDante
It was never in the license agreement to begin with!

exactly that means pking is neither legal or illegal. *gets confuzed*

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 07:43 AM
Perhaps you didn't read my post...

Jailing is not a removal of service, so it need not be in the license agreement.

03-21-2001, 07:44 AM
"They're Pinky, they're Pinky and the Brain Brain Brain Brain Brain! Narf!"

Tyhm
03-21-2001, 08:32 AM
Maybe not legally required for them to say they can toss you in jail for PKing, but it'd be nice.

"For 27 bucks, you get a year of access. If you PK, your access will be limited to the jail."

Fai
03-21-2001, 08:41 AM
I WAS JAILED FOR CHASING ICE PICK WITH A BUSH

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 08:42 AM
lol You have a point, Tyhm. But most pks won't be in jail much. :)

Punishing pks in one way or another has been common. Graal has been one of the most pk friendly games I've played.

Crono Illusion
03-21-2001, 09:20 AM
On Graal Classic, during the time of "Reject-All-Levels," PKing was basically all that was done.

Zulithe
03-21-2001, 09:24 AM
I don't think its an issue of punishing the PKers. Its more about promoting other activities, having a larger variety of activities to do will keep players busy and less PKing.

G2K1 is doing a great job of this so far. We have Ice Hockey, Mining, Fishing, Soccer, Racing, Creative Spar Rooms like CS. And thats just what we've had available in the first few months, we can only imagine what we'll see eventually.

PKing should gradually decrease even more as more activities to suit every taste become available. Also as the subscriber rate increases to the point where there are actually enough people online to participate in larger groups.

Lugie
03-21-2001, 11:11 AM
mining has gerastically slowed my pking, i have a gold name and im, well richer than i ever have been =).

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 11:33 AM
Mining has decreased my pking too! I used to not pk anybody, and now I still don't pk anybody, but I also have no time to do it! :)

Tolerian28
03-21-2001, 12:20 PM
Players with the (Police) tag can now jail people in the admin house. Police guys are for protecting players who don't want to be killed. Only people who kill other people a lot or do hacking should be jailed. Because this gives a few selected people a lot of power.



See it says who kill other players alot, so police can jail people for PKing!

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 02:01 PM
It's kinda tricky no matter what, isn't it? It's a completely subjective decision wether somebody deserves to be jailed... I'm glad I'm not police. :)

Yamizitzu
03-21-2001, 03:14 PM
it is a hard dession to make if you should jail them and you only should do it if a player complains about being pked over and over then you should give the pker a warning and if that dosnt stop them you can jail them for a short time
also icepick is very unfair with what he did to nai
i saw that and icepick provoked it
lucky i was there to let you out nai :)

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 03:18 PM
I got a lot of complaints about Ice Pick...
I don't even know why people were complaining to me about him jailing the, but nonetheless... I think he wasn't very careful with who he jailed.

Yamizitzu
03-21-2001, 03:24 PM
he isnt
:(

KawaiiSaRiA
03-21-2001, 03:31 PM
why am I not surprised...
Ice Pick abuses his power, I don't like the way he does that, and I'm sure you are all sick of it too :(

Tolerian28
03-21-2001, 05:53 PM
hmmmm this thread is named about jack but everyone is saying stuff about ice pick near the end well anyways all you have to do is know jack and he is a really good friend

Shayde
03-21-2001, 08:07 PM
If you people actually took the time to talk to Jack (instead of insulting him for whatever reasons), you would see he isn't really that bad. Ice pick on the other hand;
is incredibly ***.
doesn't talk to people he doesn't want to.
abuses power with every graal related job he's had.
is even more ***.
deserves a ***** slapping session from me.

greezi
03-21-2001, 08:26 PM
LoL! Thats 100% correct Shayde.

Shayde
03-21-2001, 08:30 PM
Why else would I post it? Actually, don't answer that.

greezi
03-21-2001, 08:34 PM
Um...Allright :/

Lycia
03-22-2001, 02:55 AM
POLICIES

The GraalOnline Server is available to players of all ages. In order to keep the environment open to all, the following restrictions have been placed on online activity:


You may not use vile or profane language online. This also covers the use of toall messages and Private Messages (PM).

You may not use sexually explicit language online.

Unwanted suggestions of a sexual nature are considered sexual harassment. This is illegal in the United States, and not allowed on our server.

Racial intolerance is not allowed.

You may not verbally assault other players. Due to the nature of the game and the fact that there's often nothing better to do, Player Killing (PK) is currently allowed.

You may not promote anything explicit or vulgar online. This includes, but is not limited to, sharing URLs with others to websites that contain profanity, nudity, or anything else that violates the GraalOnline personal conduct policy.

Enough said.

FatherDante
03-22-2001, 07:48 AM
The reaosn the conversation changed to Ice Pick is that a lot more people don't like Ice Pick.

Lycia
03-22-2001, 02:00 PM
Just go on Delteria. His server is littered with illegal things.

FatherDante
03-22-2001, 02:20 PM
They banned a lot of the delteria NPCs.

grim_squeaker_x
03-22-2001, 06:13 PM
As I said before we need a team for testing Playerworld servers to check if they still are in the rules and if they update often enough.

Lycia
03-22-2001, 08:42 PM
Delteria and Icepick need to die.

freddyfox
03-22-2001, 10:03 PM
You mean Deleteria?

Lycia
03-23-2001, 02:34 AM
Yes, Deleteteria.

Aidoggy
03-23-2001, 04:02 AM
lol

Lycia
03-23-2001, 04:37 AM
Bah, Icepick should also remove my 5 levels from his server.