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EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 04:24 AM
This guild has been disbanded since the owner of it REPEATEDLY refused to tell me what it stands for leading me to believe that it's an illegal name of some sort. If the owner tells what it means I'd be happy to put it back up but until then it's down. -KA

guileatc
10-19-2002, 04:54 AM
alright this isnt my account, i'm using my friends account to post here, since my account cant log in cause my p2p expired.

I did not refuse to tell him what it means, I told him exactly what it meant, it means nothing, they are just 3 (three) letters. I have the log here

Opposite (10/18/2002 4:22:22 PM):

ATC has been disbanded by me as a global guild. Feel free to complain but
when you're VERY rude co-leader refuses to tell me what the guild stands for I
suspect foulness in the name. Have a nice day - King Arthur

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You (10/18/2002 4:23:30 PM):

i told him not to tell you, it's not important, it doesnt mean anything, there just 3
letters, notice how's there's no period after each letter. if you think ATC means
something bad, kid u got ur head in the wrong clouds. =/

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:24:49 PM):

That's not your choice to make, my job requires me to find out what things mean
to make sure they aren't bad things, and the decision will stand now.

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You (10/18/2002 4:26:45 PM):

well guess what? do you kno what MHX means? why dont you go ask them, it
sounds very "foul" to me, in fact why dont you go ask everyone out there who
has letters in their guild name, ATC meant nothing, so there was nothing he
could of said to you,

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:27:13 PM):

I did ask them, MHX is Mega Hunters X or something like that last I recall, and I
have been asking everyone

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You (10/18/2002 4:28:56 PM):

good for you, disbanding a guild cause because the "very RUDE co-leader"
didnt tell you is wrong man, ur doing it on suspicion, if ATC meant something
rude, do you think it would of lasted for yr and a half, i'm sure someone who
thinks like you would of gotten rid of us already, someone seems jealous or
angry cause he didnt get what he wants to kno in my opinion

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:29:34 PM):

What I want to know is different from what I need to know for you to remain.
Goodbye.

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Thanks for taking your time to read it.

-KrayzieYang

AlexH
10-19-2002, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by guileatc
<snip>

Illegal.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 05:02 AM
"illegal"
yo what you talking about? X_X

AlexH
10-19-2002, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by guileatc
"illegal"
yo what you talking about? X_X

Account sharing is illegal as is posting messages for other people.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 05:06 AM
okay.. it didnt say that at the account sign up thing. :megaeek:
and thats not the point yo, what he did was wrong, and if people are gonna ignore this, cause i'm posting with my friends account then something is very wrong man. =/

AlexH
10-19-2002, 05:09 AM
a) I'm just trying to save your account.
b) Read Unix announcment.
c) He's just following the rules. If he wants to know what the initials stand for he can. I find it hard to believe they are just three random letters.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 05:12 AM
kay, Ty, i'll check what unix said. and ya, it's possible but i'd prolly think the same if was someone else.

icemanextreme
10-19-2002, 05:14 AM
ATC means nothing it is just letters ive known ATC for as long as i can remember this is bs and they shouldnt have their tags taken away cause you think its dirty KA which it is not!!!!!!!!!!


KA 1 word to ya


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid30/p2bbc91d7e03d9c1826620546bfab206e/fd547eb0.gif



OFF!!!!!!!

Nemesis
10-19-2002, 05:38 AM
Umm first off whats going on? lol second if it was deleted, umm it's been around for how long now :: scratches head :: just there should be more co-operation between the guild leader and guild manager...if you have problems...come to me

I'll be the peace maker to the best of mah ability

guileatc
10-19-2002, 06:03 AM
okie, thanks Nemesis. well to summarize what happened

King Arthur asks Guile what ATC means, guile and him argue about it cause Guile says its nothing (thats what he tells me), and King Arthur doesnt believe him and thus assumes it means something 'foul' in his words.

I log on to Bab and he (King Arthur) pm's me saying something to the effect that my guild has jus been globally deleted because the "very RUDE co-leader" would not tell him what ATC meant.

He asked me what it meant, and the log is up above so if u need to look at it it's up there. Basically , he asked me what it meant, I told him it meant nothing, that they were jus 3 letters, and eventually it ended up with him logging off without fully explaining to me what happened, he logged off where it says "good bye".

so thats what i saw from my point of view, you can ask King Arthur to see what he has to say about it.

EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 06:20 AM
1) King Arthur logs on looking at guild that might be illegal
2) King Arthur attempts to PM Guile and ask nicely
3) Guile won't reply at all
4) King Arthur tries asking Guile nicely and is witnessed by *Jourdan
5) Guile STILL refuses to answer what the guild means
6) King Arthur shrugs, logs into cp, and deletes guild since the guild leader seems to not wish to comply
7) King Arthur posts making it clear that once they tell him what it means they can come back but until then IT'S NOT COMING BACK.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 06:27 AM
o.0 thats not what happened, guile gave the log X_X! your denying it.. but in a clever "lawyer-ish" way, like i said to you in the pm it means nothing. I never gave the letters in ATC a meaning..but if you really really, want me to give one to it, i'll do it right now just for you, jus reply to this post and i'll think of something.

EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 06:28 AM
Read my rules, meaningless guilds are also in violation of them.

EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by guileatc
o.0 thats not what happened, guile gave the log X_X! your denying it.. but in a clever "lawyer-ish" way, like i said to you in the pm it means nothing. I never gave the letters in ATC a meaning..but if you really really, want me to give one to it, i'll do it right now just for you, jus reply to this post and i'll think of something. Logs also do not include all that happened on screen.

EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 06:32 AM
You (10/18/2002 4:08:57 PM):

What does ATC stand for

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You (10/18/2002 4:14:08 PM):

Your guild has been disbanded. Have a nice day.

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:14:15 PM):

**** u

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You (10/18/2002 4:14:44 PM):

warning one on harassment.

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:14:55 PM):

o_O

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:15:19 PM):

u damn **** admin

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You (10/18/2002 4:16:16 PM):

I'm more oldbie than you'll ever be kid. Warning 2. Third warning and you get
punished. Read the forums btw as to why you were deleted

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Opposite (10/18/2002 4:17:59 PM):

u harrassed us, i'm gonna complain about this,

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You (10/18/2002 4:18:22 PM):

Go for it, I asked what your guild meant, there was no harassment.

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In the 6 minutes between first and second PM I asked him on screen where he said it was "none of my business" what the guild meant. Jourdan is testifiable to the incident.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 06:39 AM
alright, well it looks like he wasnt being completely truthful to me about what you two said, I apoligize (<--sp?). well here jus for you King Arthur this is the def of what ATC means


Against The Choices

you happy, i'm pretty sure that doesnt offend anyone.

EliteDeath
10-19-2002, 06:42 AM
I'm fine with it. Wasn't that complicated sheesh. Go to www.graal2001.com and create a guild, I'll pass it no need for supports since it already was a guild.

guileatc
10-19-2002, 06:51 AM
alright all done. I re-applied for it.
oy...this is gonna be tough finding most of the members..since a lot of quit when graal went to p2p..
thanks for fixing this.


-KrayzieYang

btw: i used my account (THEONE-N-ONLYKRAYZIE) as the leader.