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TStodden
03-18-2001, 12:01 PM
Since we're getting into adding realism into the game (with Skop & Jewel), why not add the Seasons into Graal?

I talked it over with my friend Spongebob & think it would be cool to see the seasons change & this will most likely add a little extra demention into the world of Graal...

With the Seasons, The Mine could be openned in the fall & winter. Fishing would be closed in winter (due to the cold weather & possibly iced over areas).

With the seasons, we could also throw in random weather events like rain/snow & possibly the very rare & exclusive Solar Eclipse. Maybe get special events going on certain days/months of Graal as well like Holidays (where the stores WILL be closed).

The possiblites could be endless here!!! What do ya think? (I'm making this a Poll to check for interest)

Lomgren
03-18-2001, 12:13 PM
It would be quite interesting to see seasons, but I don't know how feasible it would actually be for them to be created, I think it would take a lot of work.......well, thinking about it, maybe not, since it could be based off of the server time script...but you would have to create all the individual effects.

*looks at post count*

Heh, I am now a senior member

Nai
03-18-2001, 12:54 PM
like in the new game Zelda: Oracle of Seasons? That would be cool but I don't really care cause I don't like Graal2001. Just Classic....

Falcor
03-18-2001, 01:23 PM
Hmm... If you would want a sucessfull season it would need to edut the board or change the whole world.. that wouldnt be right....

FatherDante
03-18-2001, 01:56 PM
Um......... I think Cloud X already made seasons.

Crono Illusion
03-18-2001, 01:59 PM
Seasons that would effect gameplay would be good. However, Seasons that just lag people and have no real purpose would be useless.

FatherDante
03-18-2001, 02:00 PM
Being affected by graphics isn't lag, it's slowness. And of course, you just turn off directx use to disable it.

Psyker
03-18-2001, 03:14 PM
I think that would be great.

Maybe we could have a "Fatigue" NPC System... the more you fish/mine/fight/travel, the more you get tired. Maybe you could have a command to sit down, fall asleep, or something :D

FatherDante
03-18-2001, 03:31 PM
That's an awesome idea, psyker!! It'd be cool.

Fighting should take the most stamina, then mining, then travelling, then fishing.

Standing still should recover a little, sitting a little more, and sleeping a lot. It would probably be pretty simple to make, if somebody wanted to!

Psyker
03-18-2001, 03:36 PM
Hey Dante, I got tons more ideas in this old thing! *points at head*

FatherDante
03-18-2001, 03:38 PM
Well, let 'em spill out some time. :)

I got tons of ideas.... but don't remember a lot of them. <:)

Psyker
03-18-2001, 03:48 PM
haha, yeah.
sometimes I'm too lazy to post up my new ideas here, then a few hours later I forget. :o

grim_squeaker_x
03-18-2001, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Falcor
Hmm... If you would want a sucessfull season it would need to edut the board or change the whole world.. that wouldnt be right....

And for that I put thee attention to zer magic command of setbackpal filename; If you make a good palette for it you can perfectly recreate seasons.

Lycia
03-18-2001, 09:24 PM
There are ways to make weather without the need of animated graphics. You can just do a backpal thing.

Falcor
03-18-2001, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Psyker
I think that would be great.

Maybe we could have a "Fatigue" NPC System... the more you fish/mine/fight/travel, the more you get tired. Maybe you could have a command to sit down, fall asleep, or something :D
Valikorlia (Acually it was kharlia) Used to have a Stamina system. They got rid of it becuase ti was messing everything up.. Luike nmerchants couldnt sell things if they were tired and everyone complained.. they finally got rid of it..

freddyfox
03-18-2001, 10:14 PM
Uhh, sorry, but I already suggested the season thing on the old board.

FatherDante
03-18-2001, 10:38 PM
And I already told you, weather has been made!

BTW, backpals are passe, it's coloreffects now. ;)

grim_squeaker_x
03-19-2001, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by FatherDante
And I already told you, weather has been made!

BTW, backpals are passe, it's coloreffects now. ;)

blah for night yes, but if you awnt to make a really neat looking winter thing it's beter to use backpals since otherwise the night/day NPC will go kablowy.

Fai
03-19-2001, 09:33 PM
OMG NO THAT WOULD OWN ON A HARVEST MOON PLAYERWORLD

JoMomma
03-19-2001, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by FatherDante
And I already told you, weather has been made!

BTW, backpals are passe, it's coloreffects now. ;)

but color effects doesn't always work on all systems... Remember it requires DirectX support on which not all graphics cards seem to be supporting... and no the answer is NOT "get a better graphics card" cause sometimes this DOES happen with better graphics cards.

As for "animated graphics are pointless just use backpals" I don't think you can use backpals to simulate falling snow.

Fai
03-20-2001, 12:03 AM
snow is eezee

if (playerenters||timeout) {
timeout=0.05;
}
if (timeout) {
showimg 0,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
showimg 1,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
showimg 2,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
showimg 3,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
showimg 4,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
showimg 5,snow.gif,random(1,63),random(1,63);
}

dig my l33t npc sk33lz

Cloud_X
03-20-2001, 01:02 AM
Graal's lighting effects eh directx thing is pissy and doesnt work for all but about 10 people

FatherDante
03-20-2001, 08:04 AM
If you have a new card, it will work on it unequivocally excepting two possible exceptions: 1) you have a bogus 3rd party brand 2) You have not set up your drivers correctly. DirectX works fine and dandy for me.

G_yoshi
03-21-2001, 05:21 AM
setcoloreffect is for messing with npc graphics...(can do some really nifty fading effects similar to zelda 3)
setcolor is the night/day transparency effect
backpal just changes sprite table colors

use backpal to change the grass in the sprite table to white.......or just play with the pics1.png and copy stuff around.......

Psyker
03-21-2001, 07:03 AM
either my card is six years old, my computer doesn't like me, or I've drank too much pepsi... but the lighting effects show up as big black circles.

FatherDante
03-21-2001, 08:23 AM
I think something like that happened to me once... but not since then.

Psyker
03-21-2001, 08:42 AM
how did you fix it? :(

deedle
03-21-2001, 09:11 AM
I Like the idea of the Weather system. But Adding it to Graal2001 wouldn't seem just right, unless it like uploading another server, So replace the Forest Tree with white trees, througout the server? It like a new server, But Sound like a cool idea

Lycia
03-23-2001, 02:46 AM
PACHUKA tried rain, but it lagged.

FatherDante
03-23-2001, 03:19 PM
Too bad GodSpeed made it, that means it's going on ToT. :)

Tyhm
03-24-2001, 12:34 AM
It rains in Babord...

freddyfox
03-24-2001, 01:35 AM
It doesn't anymore for me?

Tyhm
03-24-2001, 03:03 AM
Well, it rains until you beat the wall anyway. ^__^

grim_squeaker_x
03-24-2001, 08:39 PM
Heh blah, Babord's rain is cool...
It uses the images splash1.gif through splash3.gif on random locations if I'm correct.

Tyhm
03-25-2001, 12:28 AM
Held by an array. Using showimg 201+ and changimgvis so it's local. Correct.

Psyker
03-25-2001, 04:24 AM
I like the rain in Babord. :)

grim_squeaker_x
03-25-2001, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Tyhm
Held by an array. Using showimg 201+ and changimgvis so it's local. Correct.


Thought so, best way of making such effects.

IceHawk
03-28-2001, 04:16 PM
Okay, a couple of things here.

1. It shows black circles because your videocard cannot support alpha-blending. (i.e. VooDoo cards)

2. Zelda 3 had rain at the beginning that added to the effect of really being in the world so it seems possible

3. Seasons, You could have season specific activities, like the soccer arena could turn into another skating rink (Antora would always be winter) also you could have ice fishing when it's winter.

Also in the winter you wouldn't be able to swim in the rivers because they would be frozen over (The ocean would not because it is salt water) and to ice fish you have to have an axe or hammer from mining.

and in fall the bushes could be yellow and the leaves falling off, in winter just branches and in spring new growth and summer just like they are now.

crbgraal
04-02-2001, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by FatherDante
And I already told you, weather has been made!

BTW, backpals are passe, it's coloreffects now. ;)

You'd still need backpals, some things would be afected, some woldent. Becides, you would want the backpals anyway. Non-pay servers will want wether/sesons to probly!