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KawaiiSaRiA
06-08-2002, 10:39 PM
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

haunter
06-08-2002, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

I love GFX, they are fun to make!

homeless1
06-08-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

Yah, thats what I told somebody on another thread when they said gfx werent important (the "graal would not exist" part).

On Babylon, during my all my time there, Graphics was generally well respected. I was GFX Admin and was one of the 3 people who had full FTP access, at one point. I've done close to every custom graphic they have though, so it didnt come without trust and hard work..

But yah, I can get real defensive when it comes to my work. People can get shallow. So I can empathize with you.

Kawaii, I know for fact you are well respected. When you were leaving that one time, that thread you started was FULL of people that was gonna miss you. :(

AlexH
06-09-2002, 12:00 AM
All aspects of the game are as important as the other.
Without gfx there would be no game.
Without the engine there would be no game.
Without levels there would be no game.
Without NPCs there would be no game.
They're all as important as each other.

evilive
06-09-2002, 04:24 AM
Agree!

:( Same thing goes for what I put into 2k1. They just don't care about us people :(

Pssst...Kawaii.....I wanna do more gfx for 2k1!!! Lemme in!

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

check in Hiring Mithica GFX or something i said those exact words last week when i was GFX admin heh :-p

GrappaRoo
06-09-2002, 04:43 AM
*Wub from Glub*

I'll back you up but I only draw GFX for the sake of art.

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 04:47 AM
Glub i suck at GFX in RL if u get time Draw my guy not the one in the main Bad Religion sig, Draw the one with n00bs around him in the suit

If u get time lol ive dulled the colors but u should know what its like anyway

GrappaRoo
06-09-2002, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by GraalBR
Glub i suck at GFX in RL if u get time Draw my guy not the one in the main Bad Religion sig, Draw the one with n00bs around him in the suit

If u get time lol ive dulled the colors but u should know what its like anyway

I'd like to but if I ever started doing that again I already owe Kawaii one...

haunter
06-09-2002, 05:21 AM
Someone should make some pixel-art toutoruals(sp) :O So I can learns more!

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 05:29 AM
How i learned to get good at gfx and shading ect:

Zoomed in the most u can so each pixel is like the size of ur screen and just take it from their it takes ages to do but with stunning results and as u get better zoom back 1 or 2 lol if u understand

Pir
06-09-2002, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

USUCK

just kidding, wub kawaii

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

We own our bosses they know if they fire us ect its pretty hard to find a half decent GFX guy out their heh just fight for your right and everything will pull through lol.

Sorry i dont make sense

haunter
06-09-2002, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by GraalBR
How i learned to get good at gfx and shading ect:

Zoomed in the most u can so each pixel is like the size of ur screen and just take it from their it takes ages to do but with stunning results and as u get better zoom back 1 or 2 lol if u understand

I know how to make GFX, i just wanna get better, and it'd go faster if i had some sorta guidance.

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by haunter


I know how to make GFX, i just wanna get better, and it'd go faster if i had some sorta guidance.

I wish i could help you out but im realy busy at the moment.
If u know how to make Gfx get a simple gfx job on a server and learn from ur boss

Ghost Pirate
06-09-2002, 06:17 AM
I do the zoom all the way in way....I zoom out alot to make sure its how I want it and zoom right back in...I'm still in the progress of improvement =X
Soon I might beable to make big graphics!

haunter
06-09-2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by GraalBR


I wish i could help you out but im realy busy at the moment.
If u know how to make Gfx get a simple gfx job on a server and learn from ur boss

I have a job as LAT Admin, GFX are just like a side thing that i like to do... I just make them for fun, or to use in my levels, like these...

Pir
06-09-2002, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by haunter


I have a job as LAT Admin, GFX are just like a side thing that i like to do... I just make them for fun, or to use in my levels, like these...

thats really happening in a far out groovy way

davidpsy
06-09-2002, 07:44 AM
yes i agree use GATS should get more respest and i also argee that npcs level and imgs without any of them graal would nothing
also im working on makeing a server called tomorrow land its gonna have its own gfx im working on a tile set its prity cool ill make a thread about it when i got more done i have 88 levels so far

haunter
06-09-2002, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Pir


thats really happening in a far out groovy way

WTF? *whips out frying pan* *PING!* *stuffs pan back in trench coat*

Birdbird_0
06-09-2002, 07:49 AM
I personaly haven't seen a Graphics maker on graal that truely disirves my respect for content already exsisting in graal.

Thats my opinyon, impress me, make me say wow, those are some nice graphics, not some chair here and there, you know? You won't get recognition unless there is something that someone can recognize you by. You can't expect to be praised as a godly person when only doing some hats, an evelvator, and some mining equipment .ect, npc and levels are payed attention to more since they are the things the people see.

Places where will will say wow at will be places like oasis, murasamune, 2k2, and 2230 *rar*. I know alot of the graphics people are talented, from what I've seen, but thats all Ive seen, nothing in game.

And thats the bottom line, if you expect to be respected just like everyone else, you have to be able to put the same amount of work into your field as they do, make some new tiles, make a new house, make something that impresses everyone, making an end of a table just doesn't cut it.

Bam.

Pir
06-09-2002, 07:51 AM
birdo...........what about willi? ( a lot of you guys know him by cardone )

he is really good

haunter
06-09-2002, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I personaly haven't seen a Graphics maker on graal that truely disirves my respect for content already exsisting in graal.

Thats my opinyon, impress me, make me say wow, those are some nice graphics, not some chair here and there, you know? You won't get recognition unless there is something that someone can recognize you by. You can't expect to be praised as a godly person when only doing some hats, an evelvator, and some mining equipment .ect, npc and levels are payed attention to more since they are the things the people see.

Places where will will say wow at will be places like oasis, murasamune, 2k2, and 2230 *rar*. I know alot of the graphics people are talented, from what I've seen, but thats all Ive seen, nothing in game.

And thats the bottom line, if you expect to be respected just like everyone else, you have to be able to put the same amount of work into your field as they do, make some new tiles, make a new house, make something that impresses everyone, making an end of a table just doesn't cut it.

Bam.

But in pre-school i was told to respect people just because. :(

evilive
06-09-2002, 08:05 AM
omi bird. interesting words there.

SinNetherwind
06-09-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

no offense, but its not like you made EVERY gfx there is, your just in charge of them and we appreciate you... dont worry, most high admins are jerks to everyone

Minoc
06-09-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.

Awh I appreicate you ::hugs::

--Hell Raven

xxRamzaxx
06-09-2002, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I personaly haven't seen a Graphics maker on graal that truely disirves my respect for content already exsisting in graal.

Thats my opinyon, impress me, make me say wow, those are some nice graphics, not some chair here and there, you know? You won't get recognition unless there is something that someone can recognize you by. You can't expect to be praised as a godly person when only doing some hats, an evelvator, and some mining equipment .ect, npc and levels are payed attention to more since they are the things the people see.

Places where will will say wow at will be places like oasis, murasamune, 2k2, and 2230 *rar*. I know alot of the graphics people are talented, from what I've seen, but thats all Ive seen, nothing in game.

And thats the bottom line, if you expect to be respected just like everyone else, you have to be able to put the same amount of work into your field as they do, make some new tiles, make a new house, make something that impresses everyone, making an end of a table just doesn't cut it.

Bam.

You have had my respect as a GFX Person for quite some time. I loved a lot of your stuff but I have to say that mummy that was your avatar for a while was the best. I think you made the 2002 bodies and stuff, although good i dont like them

KawaiiSaRiA
06-09-2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by SinNetherwind


no offense, but its not like you made EVERY gfx there is, your just in charge of them and we appreciate you... dont worry, most high admins are jerks to everyone
I know I didnt, I'm just sick to death of the crap players, and staff give my team.

screen_name
06-09-2002, 04:07 PM
Kawaii..I dunno you..you dunno me...I'm GFX staff on 3 servers...GFX 0wnz me...you 0wnz me...kawaiisaria.com 0wnz me...and the sketch board...especially the porn loaded image...heh...I respect...I love you..can I have a hug? :) o.O; Anyway, yes, GFX is very important to Graal, being GFX Admin on 2 servers and GFX Team on 1 is a very big job, I'm looking forward to trying for a global position...*Sucks up to Kawaii* Your hair are leik so pretty. XD

KawaiiSaRiA
06-09-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by screen_name
Kawaii..I dunno you..you dunno me...I'm GFX staff on 3 servers...GFX 0wnz me...you 0wnz me...kawaiisaria.com 0wnz me...and the sketch board...especially the porn loaded image...heh...I respect...I love you..can I have a hug? :) o.O; Anyway, yes, GFX is very important to Graal, being GFX Admin on 2 servers and GFX Team on 1 is a very big job, I'm looking forward to trying for a global position...*Sucks up to Kawaii* Your hair are leik so pretty. XD
Excuse me? the porn loaded image? ....

*kicks adult hosting server...*

Birdbird_0
06-09-2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by haunter


But in pre-school i was told to respect people just because. :(

THEY LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDD

Basicly, the point I was trying to get across.

Yeah, alot of people are really talented, showing stuff you know, Kawaii is so fly with that, But showing that ingame is a differnt story.

:cool:

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by screen_name
Kawaii..I dunno you..you dunno me...I'm GFX staff on 3 servers...GFX 0wnz me...you 0wnz me...kawaiisaria.com 0wnz me...and the sketch board...especially the porn loaded image...heh...I respect...I love you..can I have a hug? :) o.O; Anyway, yes, GFX is very important to Graal, being GFX Admin on 2 servers and GFX Team on 1 is a very big job, I'm looking forward to trying for a global position...*Sucks up to Kawaii* Your hair are leik so pretty. XD

What servers are u GFX Admin and GFX team on?

GraalBR
06-09-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by SinNetherwind


no offense, but its not like you made EVERY gfx there is, your just in charge of them and we appreciate you... dont worry, most high admins are jerks to everyone

The Zelda ppl made most of Graals original GFX
j/k

haunter
06-09-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Birdbird_0


THEY LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDD

Basicly, the point I was trying to get across.

Yeah, alot of people are really talented, showing stuff you know, Kawaii is so fly with that, But showing that ingame is a differnt story.

:cool:

That's enough out of you! *beats with frying pan* BAD BIRDY! *stuffs your head into "dunce" hat and pushes over to corner* NOW SIT!

Tin Man
06-10-2002, 01:05 AM
I think GFX makers dont get enough power on PW for example a reoccuring thing i said is "I get no respect" because ton of staff got to test all these cool NPCs while i was left in the dark to be my own secret agent and find out what the levels they were at and what they were testing.

When Baylon was first begining i would constantly get sent to jail because LH wised up and put auto-jail commands on all his secret levels. But it was cool becuase i always got out.

Zolrieg
06-10-2002, 01:44 AM
graphics are the heart of the game/server, they'll make or break it. I don't see why you guys aren't getting the respect you deserve. besides GAT, NAT is the hardest spot to fill.

LordZen
06-10-2002, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Tin Man
I think GFX makers dont get enough power on PW for example a reoccuring thing i said is "I get no respect" because ton of staff got to test all these cool NPCs while i was left in the dark to be my own secret agent and find out what the levels they were at and what they were testing.

When Baylon was first begining i would constantly get sent to jail because LH wised up and put auto-jail commands on all his secret levels. But it was cool becuase i always got out.

LOL, yah I remember that. I had to talk to Lord Helmut to give Xavair and me access to those levels.

Birdbird_0
06-10-2002, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by haunter


That's enough out of you! *beats with frying pan* BAD BIRDY! *stuffs your head into "dunce" hat and pushes over to corner* NOW SIT!

*muffled screems*

haunter
06-10-2002, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Birdbird_0


*muffled screems*

*gives a sharp kick* *looks around the room* Now... Anyone else wanna question what I say?...

davidpsy
06-10-2002, 06:07 AM
my new sig yayayayayay it was made my midas my friend
http://www.boomspeed.com/donaldshimod/donaldshimoda.gif

GraalBR
06-10-2002, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by davidpsy
my new sig yayayayayay it was made my midas my friend
http://www.boomspeed.com/donaldshimod/donaldshimoda.gif

I can Honestly say that sucks lol.
over the ages hes just added Lines and the grey hair is terrible lol

KawaiiSaRiA
06-10-2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by davidpsy
my new sig yayayayayay it was made my midas my friend
http://www.boomspeed.com/donaldshimod/donaldshimoda.gif
Looks like Ash, from Pokemon.

toad1413
06-10-2002, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by GrappaRoo


I'd like to but if I ever started doing that again I already owe Kawaii one...

And me. :(


But anyway, yeah. We DON'T get enough respect. :\
We should go on strike, then the servers would be left with no images. ;D

Warcaptain
06-10-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Do you all realize that, without graphics, graal would not exist?

So I think players, and staff, should give us a little more respect. I'm sick of the crap I get, and I'm sick of being ignored frequently by other members of staff that are higher than what I am.


am i not always nice to you and respectful whenever i talk to you and\or see you?

KawaiiSaRiA
06-10-2002, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Warcaptain



am i not always nice to you and respectful whenever i talk to you and\or see you?
Yes, you are one of the very few that are kind and considerate towards others. I was not referring to you.

haunter
06-11-2002, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

Yes, you are one of the very few that are kind and considerate towards others. I was not referring to you.

<3 for the purple lady

BeZeRkEr
06-11-2002, 01:44 AM
Im kind? sometimes..