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XeroMaster
02-27-2002, 11:50 AM
why did I get banned for selling graal 2002 levels that I have made?!?!?!

I made them all by my selff!!!!

why did I get banneded for it??

and i did not get any worrning that is was illegal!?

i didnt know I could not sell levels that I made!!!!

whats going on?!?!?

Torankusu
02-27-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
whats going on?!?!? Well,
From what I heard, you got banneded for selling graal2002 level you made. You got no worning that it was illegal.

Who banned you? It's probably a mistake if you were selling levels that were 2002 levels that you made using the picso(demo) tileset. Or, if that's illegal... they probably should've said something.

XeroMaster
02-27-2002, 12:18 PM
hi did it!

and yes-i did make them my self using picso.png

Faheria_LAT3
02-27-2002, 12:38 PM
Silver:
huh my guess is that selling data such as Graal levels is illegal
it's completely stupid, people cant use them on their playerworlds unless its P2P and they have gotten permission to use picso.png

Cybnext_Design
02-27-2002, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
I did I get banned for selling graal 2002 levels that I have made?!?!?!

I made them all by my selff!!!!

why did I get banneded for it??

and i did not get any worning that is was illegal!?

i didnt know I could not sell levels that I made!!!!

whats going on?!?!?

I warned you. I told you to change your name from 'Selling G2k2 levels' to something that made it sound like you made the levels and you were selling them so people could learn from them, but you didn't listen to me.

XeroMaster
02-27-2002, 01:14 PM
will some one ask Shadow knight to UNbanned me!!

OR
read this post!!
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24696

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cybnext_Design
02-27-2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
will some one ask Shadow knight to UNbanned me!!

OR
read this post!!
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24696

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally, I think it is your fault. Having a name like that and not realizing what the outcome could be is just plain stupid.

MysticZhadow
02-27-2002, 01:23 PM
ROFL, banneded.... worned.... :p

psihunter
02-27-2002, 01:33 PM
Did you sellyour brain already aswell?

nyghtGT
02-27-2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Torankusu
Well,
From what I heard, you got banneded for selling graal2002 level you made. You got no worning that it was illegal.

Who banned you? It's probably a mistake if you were selling levels that were 2002 levels that you made using the picso(demo) tileset. Or, if that's illegal... they probably should've said something.
true, true, poeple should be warned they are doing somehting wrong, alltohugh selling levels made by you in 2002 format is a rather testy subject ...

Kaimetsu
02-27-2002, 02:52 PM
How would this idiot get G2K2 levels?

Faheria_LAT3
02-27-2002, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Kaimetsu
How would this idiot get G2K2 levels?
silver:
By having the gmap maker and knowing how to activate them in the editor?

Kaimetsu
02-27-2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


By having the gmap maker and knowing how to activate them in the editor?

...then they're not G2K2 levels? They're just levels made with the same features as G2K2 uses.

Faheria_LAT3
02-27-2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Kaimetsu


...then they're not G2K2 levels? They're just levels made with the same features as G2K2 uses.
silver:
yeah but everyone calls levels made with GMAPs 'G2k2 levels' x_x

Kaimetsu
02-27-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3

silver:
yeah but everyone calls levels made with GMAPs 'G2k2 levels' x_x

Well now that's just stupid. They're not even really levels.

People are idiots :mad:

Faheria_LAT3
02-27-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Well now that's just stupid. They're not even really levels.

People are idiots :mad:

silver:
heh, dont get angry ;p

Kaimetsu
02-27-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


silver:
heh, dont get angry ;p

Okay :)

But he should stay banned.

XeroMaster
02-28-2002, 01:33 AM
I payed for 1 year account, then i get banneded?!?!?!
whats up with that!!

it Was a misunder standing, but I would like to have my account back as soon as possible

Kaimetsu
02-28-2002, 01:36 AM
You were lucky to get warned. If you ignore that warning then how can you complain?

XeroMaster
02-28-2002, 02:22 AM
I did NOT get a warrning!!!
(read the NOT)

meaning NO warrning was given to me!!

i was just banneded!

Kaimetsu
02-28-2002, 02:39 AM
I'd sooner believe Cybnext than you.

NeoNPL
02-28-2002, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
why did I get banned for selling graal 2002 levels that I have made?!?!?!

I made them all by my selff!!!!

why did I get banneded for it??

and i did not get any worrning that is was illegal!?

i didnt know I could not sell levels that I made!!!!

whats going on?!?!?


Get a dictionary, please. Once your sentences make sense we can help you.

Krakken
02-28-2002, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by NeoNPL



Get a dictionary, please. Once your sentences make sense we can help you.

Hahahahahaha! :D

Graal518
02-28-2002, 05:47 AM
I read the whole thread, but I still don't understand, this idiot made the 3d terrain levels? Or just crap levels with picso.png not 3d? How would he know how to anyway?

Cybnext_Design
02-28-2002, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
I did NOT get a warrning!!!
(read the NOT)

meaning NO warrning was given to me!!

i was just banneded!

I clearly warned you. If you still don't believe me, I will post the log of the chat I had with you.

XeroMaster
03-01-2002, 02:15 AM
I did not see ANY pms from any one

I was just selling these level which used picso.png

i was selling them for 5-10g
not much,
i was just trying to help people may-be start there own 2002 level

I am sorry you thought I was selling the REAL thing..

I will e-mail you the level i was selling if you want me to shadow knight..

can i please have my account back?

Cybnext_Design
03-01-2002, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
I did not see ANY pms from any one

I was just selling these level which used picso.png

i was selling them for 5-10g
not much,
i was just trying to help people may-be start there own 2002 level

I am sorry you thought I was selling the REAL thing..

I will e-mail you the level i was selling if you want me to shadow knight..

can i please have my account back?

Here is the PM log:


You (2/26/2002 10:25:43 PM):

You realize how smart it is to have your name as that?

---
You (2/26/2002 10:26:34 PM):

I am now taking ideas for things you would like to see on Graal2001. Please
give good descriptions of the thing you want made. If you have already made
a suggestion, please do not make it again.

---
Opposite (2/26/2002 10:28:14 PM):

?

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You (2/26/2002 10:28:31 PM):

selling g2k2 levels.

---
Opposite (2/26/2002 10:28:39 PM):

ya

---
You (2/26/2002 10:29:01 PM):

Are you actually "selling" them?

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Opposite (2/26/2002 10:29:19 PM):

ya, why?

---
You (2/26/2002 10:29:33 PM):

You're stupid. You should be banned.

---
Opposite (2/26/2002 10:29:50 PM):

?

---
Opposite (2/26/2002 10:30:01 PM):

can you build one?

---
You (2/26/2002 10:30:17 PM):

Yes.

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You (2/26/2002 10:30:40 PM):

If you are selling levels "like" g2k2, put something like:

Selling 3D levels or something

---
Opposite (2/26/2002 10:32:59 PM):

lol

---


Maybe not a clear warning, but it was a warning.
And if he was making levels like Graal2002, he would need the terrain editor, or whatever the program is called that does the Z axis, which I do believe is limited to the development team, therefore he had it illegaly.

Providence_Admin3
03-01-2002, 03:58 AM
Someone please tell me what the hell "banneded" means.

XeroMaster
03-01-2002, 10:53 AM
You were just saying the it was stuped for me to be "selling" them and not giving them away for free!!

here is a AIM conversation with C Y B N E X T (the person that gave me the "warrning")

C Y B N E X T: If you are selling levels "like" g2k2, put something like:

Selling 3D levels or something
C Y B N E X T: thats a warning
C Y B N E X T: You're stupid. You should be banned.
C Y B N E X T: so is that
Da First Bug: i should be banned for haveing a stuped name?
C Y B N E X T: The fact is, you had your name as 'Selling G2k2 levels', which would imply that you are making levels that contain the Z axis. The only program that can do that is Terrain Editor, and only Graal2001 development team can have it
C Y B N E X T: So therefore, it was percieved that you had an illegal copy of TE
Da First Bug: but i was not!
Da First Bug: why should i be benned?
Da First Bug: banned*
C Y B N E X T: That's what you're name implied
Da First Bug: but it was a misunderstanding

that is the end, (no replay was made)

so he is saying that i should be banned for my name SOUNDING like it was illegal, but it was only a misunderstanding

(Shadow knight, please respond to this post)

Faheria_LAT3
03-01-2002, 11:21 AM
Silver:
Huh, you can make g2k2 levels with the normal editor.. I don't know how to do it though.. something to do with setz or something. o_O anyway, selling levels isnt something legal.. you cant sell levels.. its completely stupid.

Cybnext_Design
03-01-2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
Silver:
Huh, you can make g2k2 levels with the normal editor.. I don't know how to do it though.. something to do with setz or something. o_O anyway, selling levels isnt something legal.. you cant sell levels.. its completely stupid.

Do you really think someone would go through the level and make an NPC that checks for your x,y and then sets the z? The most logical way would be to use the Terrain Editor.

Kaimetsu
03-01-2002, 07:50 PM
If the level creation process isn't common knowledge and the associated tool isn't released to the public, then it's pretty obvious that the head guys don't much want them to be spread. You're not so stupid that you can't see this, you shouldn't be unbanned.

XeroMaster
03-02-2002, 03:41 AM
I do NOT have the stuped y axes thing!!

I only have the graal 2002 demo thing that was released...
and i made a level using picso.png!!!!

any one can do it!!!
I was just letting people have a level I made!!

so I was doing NOTHING that was illegal!

Cybnext_Design
03-02-2002, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by XeroMaster
I do NOT have the stuped y axes thing!!

I only have the graal 2002 demo thing that was released...
and i made a level using picso.png!!!!

any one can do it!!!
I was just letting people have a level I made!!

so I was doing NOTHING that was illegal!

Well, I would basically consider that scamming, because how hard is it to put this in an NPC within the level:

addtiledef picso.png,level,0;

And I believe scamming is illegal, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

03-02-2002, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Kaimetsu
If the level creation process isn't common knowledge and the associated tool isn't released to the public, then it's pretty obvious that the head guys don't much want them to be spread. You're not so stupid that you can't see this, you shouldn't be unbanned.

Thank you Kaimetsu, about time someone brought that point up.