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LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 08:42 AM
While us Dustarians were waiting for our castle, we thought of something. Why do we limit our military to the Army? I mean, airships are plausible in the Graalian world, and ships already exist...

Take this example into consideration:
I just can see it in my mind.... a huge Zormite battlecrusiser... firing at a distant castle... all the sudden you hear a low hum. You look above yourself, and see a huge flying ship! It rolls to the left and fires its cannons, oblivorating the masts and bridge... then a volley of cannonballs from a Dustari battlecruser smashes the side of the Zormite cruser into splinters, causing it to sink, with all hands on board.

I have no idea how this would be done... but just think about it. Imagine a hidden harbor behind the Dustari waterfall, carved out of the cliff. Trade ships moving in and out, buying and selling goods to be traded all along the coastline of the world. Imagine a huge battleship, a floating fortress if you will, making its way out to the open sea.

Then, atop the castle, another port. Except... this one holds a new invention in the Graal world... airships! Royal runabouts transporting Foreign officals in and out of the castle... small cruisers escorting the runabouts, trade airships buzzing about the landing pad, waiting their turn to land... huge battleships, bustling with cannons, loading on ammo and special paratroopers to retailate against a uprising in Harmonia...

I never posted this to tell you what we are making... this is simply a suggestion.

Thanks,
Tupper Trčnine

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 08:46 AM
It sounds good in theory...

Sjc2k1
10-21-2001, 08:47 AM
and then we add a big airship gate where airships pass through and then call graal final fantasty 9

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_
10-21-2001, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Qwert616
It sounds good in theory...
Yeah, I doubt Stefan would do all that just for kingdoms and stuff

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 08:48 AM
I know, just a suggestion.

Xythar
10-21-2001, 08:49 AM
Airships = cool. Make a few and auction them like Bomies.

KrayZieKracka
10-21-2001, 08:49 AM
good job. Next tell them to make a kingdom for us KrayZies while you're at it. lol j/k

FatherDante
10-21-2001, 08:50 AM
Evil Dante: thhhbppt

jonnyrocks2
10-21-2001, 08:50 AM
OK! ALSO SPECIAL FORCES! add a special forces to that list. Thank you.




Jason Trevelyan of Dustari
"When you dont think, you wont win"

padraig08
10-21-2001, 08:51 AM
Tupper, you know that both you and I had the same idea. This can work. This has potential. Army battles are quite boring for some of us who are either not of the army, nor do we have any experience or do we want to be apart of land forces. This gives some of us with navy-based strategies and ideas to use them. Although I'm sure this proposal will in the end be shot down (( I do not think any military leader will agree )), it is worth a shot.

I can see why you think what you do, and I do hope too that this can work. :)

-- Robin Saii
Dustari

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Xythar
Airships = cool. Make a few and auction them like Bomies.
Yeah! Thats what I'm taliking about! Make a fet military and transport airships for each kingdom, and make a bunch of trading ships and personal ships for people to buy!

Lionel-Jonson
10-21-2001, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by FatherDante
Evil Dante: thhhbppt

I'm not too sure that it was Evil Dante who said that ;).

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by FatherDante
Evil Dante: thhhbppt
Hush evil Dante, we have a Priestess who can exorcize (sp?) you. So be quiet. ;)

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 08:55 AM
Hm. there could also be some kind of land vehicle that can hold a certain amount of players. Kind of like a smaller boat that moves a little faster.

I don't think air planes would really work...

Roostah
10-21-2001, 08:56 AM
BAH.


So battleships and airships are perfectly okay, but guys with Tokugawa era pistols/rifles from the 1600's are not?


.............. Wow



:confused:

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Qwert616
Hm. there could also be some kind of land vehicle that can hold a certain amount of players. Kind of like a smaller boat that moves a little faster.

I don't think air planes would really work...
Not airplanes! ARGH! Airships! like ships.... bah. you have never played any rpgs, have you?

Juron Pilo
10-21-2001, 08:57 AM
I will personally support this... just so long as nothing too modern is added... oh and airships are FF... they're an old myth

Sjc2k1
10-21-2001, 08:58 AM
(sarcasm) lets give each kingdom nukes and have a cold war on graal that sounds fun and zormites will have submarines and dustari stealth bommers and samurai will have fusion powered tanks (sarcasm)

Xythar
10-21-2001, 08:59 AM
There's an airship on Classic, it just sucks.

jonnyrocks2
10-21-2001, 09:00 AM
We should also add special forces to this. I mean, we can use airships and the ships...so why not have the nice load of special forces?



Jason Trevelyan of Dustari
"If You Dont Think, You Wont Win"

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Sjc2k1
(sarcasm) lets give each kingdom nukes and have a cold war on graal that sounds fun and zormites will have submarines and dustari stealth bommers and samurai will have fusion powered tanks (sarcasm)
No. Shut up.

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 09:01 AM
Not airplanes! ARGH! Airships! like ships.... bah. you have never played any rpgs, have you?

I do play RPGs, thank you

When I said air planes I meant flying things in general (I have been playing Advance Wars all day today). Mabye if there was a whole set of levels that the planes use, but having the planes on the same levels as the players could get messy.

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Xythar
There's an airship on Classic, it just sucks.
Because it does not utilize P2P scripting.

Sjc2k1
10-21-2001, 09:01 AM
are you actual serious about airships and all that sorry i thought you were joking

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Sjc2k1
are you actual serious about airships and all that sorry i thought you were joking
Uhh, I would never type anything that long unless I was serious.

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 09:04 AM
The dream team would be Kai and Kyle on scripting, Antago on GFX, and BirdBird on levels... but that'll never happen.

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 09:05 AM
Would the airplanes be on the same levels as the players?!

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by LilNiglet
The dream team would be Kai and Kyle on scripting, Antago on GFX, and BirdBird on levels... but that'll never happen.
Birdbird on levels, HAH!!!!
Kai and Kyle for scripting, YES!
Antago and Mandi on images, YES!
Birdbird on levels, #[email protected]! NO!!!

psihunter
10-21-2001, 09:06 AM
Air ships BAH
I think if a player grabs onto a balloon he can start flying but he cannot chose where to go (its all about those Carribean Trade Winds)

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by psihunter
Air ships BAH
I think if a player grabs onto a balloon he can start flying but he cannot chose where to go (its all about those Carribean Trade Winds)
and those low flying jet liners too...gotta be carefull about those when flying aimlessly with a balloon...

psihunter
10-21-2001, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Jerom

Birdbird on levels, HAH!!!!
Kai and Kyle for scripting, YES!
Antago and Mandi on images, YES!
Birdbird on levels, #[email protected]! NO!!!

I wonder what your levels looks like...your a major level critic

freddyfox
10-21-2001, 09:07 AM
We should have airship battles.

And ocean palaces that I control.

Yes.

Juron Pilo
10-21-2001, 09:08 AM
I am serious about it... fashion rifles is my tech limit but that doesn't disclude things THOUGHT up at around the 1600s... something u might find in an old inventors notebook or perhaps in a legend:D
omg thats my first smiley:)

ZanderX
10-21-2001, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by freddyfox
We should have airship battles.

And ocean palaces that I control.

Yes.

That YOU control? What about me?! :(

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by psihunter


I wonder what your levels looks like...your a major level critic
I can tell you that Birdbird will NEVER make levels as good as TrueHeat!
Infact... I think I would want TrueHeat on my level making team if I had one, heh ^_^ I've got a good feeling as to what type of levels he likes to make.

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 09:09 AM
There should be more sea levels...and mabye make some ships more battle prepared

Sjc2k1
10-21-2001, 09:11 AM
well in that case have you ever played ff9 coz when you read your idea it sounds very much the same as whats in ff9 airships docked at the top of castles and ships at the bottom and the kingdom having an airship fleet sounds awfully fimilar(sp?) to a kingdom in ff9 called Lindblum

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Qwert616
There should be more sea levels...and mabye make some ships more battle prepared
I've suggested many different ideas for expanding travel to the sea, but nobody of importance seems to listen =\
We've had the ideas of turtles, Ghost Pirate's mini-boats floating around all over the place now(we call them Ghost Pirate's ships because we want to!), a ship which travels to and from a single island in the sea, etc.

LilNiglet
10-21-2001, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Sjc2k1
well in that case have you ever played ff9 coz when you read your idea it sounds very much the same as whats in ff9 airships docked at the top of castles and ships at the bottom and the kingdom having an airship fleet sounds awfully fimilar(sp?) to a kingdom in ff9 called Lindblum
So?

Qwert616
10-21-2001, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Sjc2k1
well in that case have you ever played ff9 coz when you read your idea it sounds very much the same as whats in ff9 airships docked at the top of castles and ships at the bottom and the kingdom having an airship fleet sounds awfully fimilar(sp?) to a kingdom in ff9 called Lindblum

And Graal is like Zelda what is your point?

psihunter
10-21-2001, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Jerom

I can tell you that Birdbird will NEVER make levels as good as TrueHeat!
Infact... I think I would want TrueHeat on my level making team if I had one, heh ^_^ I've got a good feeling as to what type of levels he likes to make.

I didn't ask how good THT is I asked how good you are...
TrueHeaT does make good levels

Birdbird makes nice levels with alot of Trees and swamp land

Juron Pilo
10-21-2001, 09:13 AM
yeah yeah and his story had cannons too... :roll eyes:

FatherDante
10-21-2001, 09:14 AM
Evil Dante: I think this idea is simply ludicrous, personally.

From now on, Holy Dante will be sommuning me if he has anything scathing to say, to spare his conscience. hehehe... I'm getting back in control. >:)

Juron Pilo
10-21-2001, 09:14 AM
///// test?

Sjc2k1
10-21-2001, 09:14 AM
just saying

Juron Pilo
10-21-2001, 09:16 AM
*sighs* icons broke again and my guess failed... oh well

ZanderX
10-21-2001, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by psihunter


I didn't ask how good THT is I asked how good you are...
TrueHeaT does make good levels

Birdbird makes nice levels with alot of Trees and swamp land

Methinks Jerom is jealous? ;)

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by psihunter


I didn't ask how good THT is I asked how good you are...
TrueHeaT does make good levels

Birdbird makes nice levels with alot of Trees and swamp land
ok, I guess I can put it this way...
If you can remember CrimeGraal(which everyone hated ever so much), is where I had a world in the making with Brady. TrueHeat was hired as an LAT there.
I saw TrueHeat's neat island, accept I noticed alot of tile errors dealing with water edges, grass, building(he tried to make some church building), tree blocking, and some pathway tiles. TrueHeat sent me the levels, and I fixed up the levels he sent me, and I also remember telling him that one tile did exist(a water corner tile which he couldn't seem to find(Tileset is really unorganized)).
You probley think thats pointless, although I don't have any of my recent work with the new tiles, I am working on some Val levels for somebody, and once I get them done, I will probley post a map, and some snap shots of the levels.

Jerom
10-21-2001, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by ZanderX


Methinks Jerom is jealous? ;)
Methinks Birdbird should use this script in all of his disco levels.
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