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Reddy548
10-08-2012, 05:33 PM
years ago , zone were a fun place to stay with 60 people online , all worlds being played , but not it stays at 1 player , someone gotta revive it , bring the old zone .

papajchris
10-08-2012, 05:36 PM
whats with you new peeps being so energetic lately

dude2020
10-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Hate to break it to you, but this is impossible.

Current management see no reason to continue work to restore Zone because there is a iZone that'll make anyone who enjoyed Zone, cry. Globals refuse to handle anything dealing with "Gold" tab playerworlds, which is a load of **** unless the rules changed.

Dragon551
10-09-2012, 12:07 AM
no pls, stay down

Supaman771
10-09-2012, 07:47 AM
http://cdn.avsforum.com/d/df/df0ed8dc_vbattach221779.jpeg

TheGodAngelo
10-09-2012, 11:12 AM
this may sound silly, but who is the manager of zone?

Dragon551
10-09-2012, 01:55 PM
this may sound silly, but who is the manager of zone?

Who would want to be?

dude2020
10-09-2012, 01:58 PM
this may sound silly, but who is the manager of zone?At the moment, Tenchry

NicoX
10-09-2012, 02:28 PM
Who would want to be?

Alf 4 Manager

papajchris
10-09-2012, 05:10 PM
Alf for manager

Tim_Rocks
10-09-2012, 05:10 PM
Give me the server and put it on the classic player list (also remove observer mode), I will put it to good use.

Dragon551
10-09-2012, 06:24 PM
I'LL take the case!

TSAdmin
10-09-2012, 07:54 PM
http://cdn.avsforum.com/d/df/df0ed8dc_vbattach221779.jpeg

Maybe if you beat it in a different spot, or a slower pace? Maybe beat it harder...

Tim_Rocks
10-09-2012, 08:01 PM
In all seriousness, I'd probably play Kindoms or Zone if they were on the classic player list. On a side note though, you guys are more than welcome to beat off my horse.

dude2020
10-09-2012, 09:51 PM
Observer mode was removed I think a few months after it was added.

It's basically F2P now. Tench and Stephen made it so everyone has 100hp, full ammo, all classes. Only thing to spend anything on are the guns.

No restrictions for Trials basically.

ff7chocoboknight
10-10-2012, 05:46 PM
Graal would need to have extra people from the community to actually play Zone.

Admins
10-10-2012, 06:47 PM
Everyone who is interesting in helping for the new Zone please contact me at [email protected]

NicoX
10-10-2012, 07:44 PM
Everyone who is interesting in helping for the new Zone please contact me at [email protected]

Could you give us a list of what kind of help you need? Or what needs to be done etc.

scriptless
10-10-2012, 09:28 PM
Could you give us a list of what kind of help you need? Or what needs to be done etc.

Is he talking Zone or iZone?

NicoX
10-10-2012, 09:38 PM
Is he talking Zone or iZone?

I think iZone

Elk
10-11-2012, 05:48 AM
Uh... Shangri La now, huh...

pig132
10-11-2012, 09:13 AM
zone = era in space? that's retarded

Fulg0reSama
10-11-2012, 09:35 AM
zone = era in space? that's retarded

always thought that, even in vice versa.

pig132
10-11-2012, 01:01 PM
always thought that, even in vice versa.

era = zone in space

mind blown

ff7chocoboknight
10-12-2012, 11:34 AM
Like Elk said, it's just Shangri La.

Crono
10-12-2012, 12:14 PM
That isn't Zone at all, it's a mix of Shangri La and Era. It's nice that Shangri's material isn't going to waste, but I really don't know how PC Zone can be revived even if all the problems are fixed. Drawing in a playerbase from iZone and then integrating it with PC Zone is the only solution I can think of, but we want Zone back and not Shangri La.

It's a confusing matter.

fowlplay4
10-12-2012, 04:56 PM
Key steps to success: Matchmaking, Old Iricia, Balanced Gameplay.

The iEra (Pay2Win) model really messes with the balanced gameplay part.

Feonix
10-12-2012, 05:04 PM
Hate the idea of mixing Era and Zone together. You couldn't even compare PC Zone gameplay to that of any other server...

Crono
10-12-2012, 05:06 PM
Key steps to success: Matchmaking, Old Iricia, Balanced Gameplay.

yep.

maximus_asinus
10-12-2012, 05:17 PM
Hate the idea of mixing Era and Zone together. You couldn't even compare PC Zone gameplay to that of any other server...

You're right, it was especially bad

Crono
10-12-2012, 06:09 PM
You're right, it was especially bad

What? You used to play Zone too.

Jesper
10-13-2012, 12:57 AM
Best game in childhood, by far.

maximus_asinus
10-13-2012, 12:37 PM
What? You used to play Zone too.

Dude you ruin my troll....

TheGodAngelo
10-13-2012, 01:00 PM
This all makes me very sad.

Crono
10-13-2012, 01:11 PM
dude you ruin my troll....

<3

Crono
10-14-2012, 02:49 PM
Some more screenshots.

I'm scared to see what else they've changed.

That isn't Zone in my eyes :(. Planet selection is kind of cute though.

Tenchry_P2P
10-14-2012, 04:02 PM
Observer mode was removed I think a few months after it was added.

It's basically F2P now. Tench and Stephen made it so everyone has 100hp, full ammo, all classes. Only thing to spend anything on are the guns.

No restrictions for Trials basically.


^ don't put me in the same line as Stephen, he did nothing towards that i did all of that by myself, Stefan isn't interested in the current zone on the client, I've given him my thoughts and such and all he says is he has no time to supervise zone so therefore nothing is going to happen with it.

And yes i've wanted to move zone onto classic + change the whole gelat system around on it to make it fair for everyone hell even bring in increased profit for stefan.

dude2020
10-14-2012, 05:22 PM
Stephen got rid of class restrictions on classes (maybe something else, I don't remember)

However small, it is something that was in the right direction.

That isn't Zone in my eyes :(. Planet selection is kind of cute though.Nor mine.

ffcmike
10-14-2012, 06:29 PM
Everyone who is interesting in helping for the new Zone please contact me at [email protected]

Perhaps if people hadn't needed to upgrade to Gold every year to be able to both play and develop the server, and staff's concerns about the subscription policies had been acted upon, there may have now been available staff/developers for the new project who could not only help you, but turn it into something that resembles Zone, rather than a re-branded pillagement of an entirely different server.

scriptless
10-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Perhaps if people hadn't needed to upgrade to Gold every year to be able to both play and develop the server, and staff's concerns about the subscription policies had been acted upon, there may have now been available staff/developers for the new project who could not only help you, but turn it into something that resembles Zone, rather than a re-branded pillagement of an entirely different server.

I dont see why there is even a GOLD tab anymore.. new accounts have ot be gold for playerworlds, too.. o_o

Programmer
10-22-2012, 12:51 AM
Zone is in no position to be revived now due to the stubbornness of the management of Graal. In their greed-filled eyes, iZone is the better way to go while they allow ZonePC, once glorious, to rot on the wayside. Get it through your thick skulls, Stefan and Stephane. Instating new restrictions on a server is not the way to convince players to subscribe -- It only drives them away. It seems as if you have completely ignored, or simply misunderstood, the effect this restriction had. This was clearly evident when you, Stefan, on Zone Debug, levied a head image restriction -- something I WATCHED you make, and advised against. You went against my advice and pressed forth, losing the support of many of your long-term players.

Now, it appears as if you are not even listening to your paying customer's opinion. They want Zone PC back, so why are you ignoring them? Not all of these people are capable of playing iZone. Why are you abandoning these players who have been loyal to your game since they started?

ffcmike
10-22-2012, 12:54 AM
Get it through your thick skulls, Stefan and Stephane. Instating new restrictions on a server is not the way to convince players to subscribe -- It only drives them away.

Sadly it seems a new maniacal restriction is being implemented as part of the client when V6 is fully released.
Maybe they want to drive players away.

Tim_Rocks
10-22-2012, 12:59 AM
Just wait till Stefan has children, his kid will fix everything.

NicoX
10-22-2012, 02:37 AM
Just wait till Stefan has children, his kid will fix everything.

His kids will probably play another MMO.

ffcmike
10-22-2012, 02:38 AM
His kids will probably play another MMO.

I think he means it like Luke Skywalker.

Admins
10-22-2012, 03:21 PM
...rather than a re-branded pillagement of an entirely different server.
Glass house? :p
Zone has weapons! Just like Era! It's really absurd to say it's just a copy of Era. We have even delayed the release for a full year to be able to improve it more.

Fulg0reSama
10-22-2012, 03:46 PM
Glass house? :p
Zone has weapons! Just like Era! It's really absurd to say it's just a copy of Era. We have even delayed the release for a full year to be able to improve it more.

I don't understand your retort very well.

Crono
10-22-2012, 04:15 PM
I don't understand your retort very well.

Stefan was making fun of the "IT HAZ GUNS SO IT MUST BE ERA!!11" mentality of some players. But what Thor was saying is that the current Zone that's being worked on isn't really Zone...it's more like Shangri-La mixed with Era. I haven't played it yet so can't comment, but I don't like the way it's looking right now...we'll have to see.

Gos_pira
10-22-2012, 04:53 PM
Maybe it was changed to keep it looking the same, as iClassic and iEra, so the new iPlayers won't get confused why it's named Graal when it looks different.

Crono
10-22-2012, 05:11 PM
Maybe it was changed to keep it looking the same, as iClassic and iEra, so the new iPlayers won't get confused why it's named Graal when it looks different.

Didn't confuse Graalians when it first came out, why should it now? :P

Fulg0reSama
10-22-2012, 06:18 PM
Stefan was making fun of the "IT HAZ GUNS SO IT MUST BE ERA!!11" mentality of some players. But what Thor was saying is that the current Zone that's being worked on isn't really Zone...it's more like Shangri-La mixed with Era. I haven't played it yet so can't comment, but I don't like the way it's looking right now...we'll have to see.

I get that, but I would think that he would actually try to make the sting not so hit and miss... was hoping I would be wrong on the assumption.

As for the Zone thing, Stefan, you've screwed up again, you're not even worth ranting at for as to why.

Gos_pira
10-22-2012, 06:36 PM
Didn't confuse Graalians when it first came out, why should it now? :P

Maybe they play it safe this time around? Otherwise I would think it has to do with Stefan wanting to use as much of the default system as possible to not lag the iDevices to hell.

dude2020
10-22-2012, 10:24 PM
Glass house? :p
Zone has weapons! Just like Era! It's really absurd to say it's just a copy of Era. We have even delayed the release for a full year to be able to improve it more.Yes because we're sitting here saying that Zone is a copy of Era because of guns. :whatever:

The screenshots in this thread just screams iEra with Shangri La mixed in with Zone's "battlegrounds"

kia345
10-22-2012, 10:35 PM
ShangriZonera looks more interesting than at least two of the source materials.




Can I be #1 with the katana there too

ffcmike
10-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Glass house? :p

I'm not sure if that analogy works differently in other countries, but to a developer who's been working on what is their home server for 5 consecutive years (*), and has remade/reintroduced/expanded upon far more original material than any other developer had post NPC-Server, it really doesn't make sense.

*Yet you still want built-in to the client trial restrictions beyond our control, which simply do not work, instead of allowing us to implement our own scripted restrictions and currencies as a micro-transaction, to the server we rebuilt from scratch.

Admins
10-23-2012, 03:10 PM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.

Crow
10-23-2012, 03:14 PM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.

Aww, you're teasing us now.

Fulg0reSama
10-23-2012, 06:32 PM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.

Can any official screenshots be provided?

kia345
10-23-2012, 06:56 PM
I can't help but think that lack of transparency between Graal's administration and its community is the sort of mistake that would get you laughed at on your first day of business management class.



I got laughed at, but it was for heavy handed communist ideologies and trying to apply them to the adult entertainment industry.

Tim_Rocks
10-23-2012, 07:09 PM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.

The cat's already out of the bag, we all saw those screen shots.

BlueMelon
10-23-2012, 08:31 PM
time to change the osl!

TheGodAngelo
10-23-2012, 08:45 PM
business management class.

That's what graal is these days :p
lessons in what not to do.


Drive new players away with outrageous trial restrictions.
Ignore competent and talented developers
Promise to release new developer tools for the community and then never speaking of it agian and banning anyone who mentions it.
Pillage old servers and put them on iPhone
Lie Constantly
Charge for this game like it's WoW or something


But hey, money is all that matters right guys? lol. :noob:

fowlplay4
10-23-2012, 11:52 PM
I got laughed at, but it was for heavy handed communist ideologies and trying to apply them to the adult entertainment industry.

Go on.

dude2020
10-24-2012, 04:00 AM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.:cry:

Fulg0reSama
10-24-2012, 04:46 AM
I got laughed at, but it was for heavy handed communist ideologies and trying to apply them to the adult entertainment industry.

My erection is listening...

Supaman771
10-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Those pictures were not authorized and illegal, deleted.

Fire up the memory eraser machine?

This is silly. Those levels looked like Mesh made them anyway, why would anyone play that?

kia345
10-25-2012, 11:10 PM
I wish I could compile other people's free projects, make a retail product out of them, not give the creators a dime or a credit, and then cover my tracks all the way.

WaDaFack
11-22-2012, 03:29 AM
zone will never come back.
it lost its players (they quit, or moved on to another server). pc graal is barely growing & the people playing now are stuck with the server they're playing until graal closes.