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PowerProNL
10-21-2010, 08:55 PM
Okay, the current website www.graalonline.com SUCKS!!!!, it's not even an improving website that shows you LETS PLAY GRAAL ONLINE, cuz the interface tells you: GO AWAY FROM GRAAL I AM UGLY, look at other game sites, with news on the page and updates, the current graalonline website is a flat, unupdated website, even there is no Register button, you have to go way the community-->Become a member, but everyone is lazy to do that, and the Download link is in community-->downloads, why would someone read that, everyone is lazy and want to do the easiest thing ever

fowlplay4
10-21-2010, 09:08 PM
Make a better website then and present it to them, other than that you're beating a dead horse.

Seeya
10-21-2010, 09:17 PM
It needs a full revamp, it has a section on Zone, and Skill Games, but it doesn't have -anything- on iPhone.

kia345
10-21-2010, 09:35 PM
Someone launch an attack on the website and make it redirect to one of the older ones from the Internet Archives.

Rufus
10-21-2010, 09:45 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Tig has a team together to make one.

xXziroXx
10-21-2010, 09:52 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Tig has a team together to make one.

I think I remember reading that as well, but that was a rather long time ago by now.

kia345
10-21-2010, 09:52 PM
I'm glad he can put a team together for that and not GK

Fulg0reSama
10-21-2010, 10:16 PM
I remember that same thing... That was months ago and no word. Either they love keeping it secret or it never happened.

MrOmega
10-21-2010, 10:19 PM
I'll make one and post it later, see what you guys think.

Soala
10-21-2010, 10:42 PM
I'd love to actually make a website design myself as I've made quite a few ones for school projects, but the thing is that we don't have that much access to the files and such things we need to know in order to organize a new one properly, so it makes it quite impossible to make a new one just like that. I remember it being a GDT Project last year I think, right when the GDT was created. I had a few ideas in mind, but the discussion just stop'd and nothing came out of it, nothing productive nor concrete.

fowlplay4
10-21-2010, 11:31 PM
The access thing is just an excuse, no one had the motivation or talent to actually make one. There were people who offered to help but no one to lead the project and get something completed.

Besides unix/Stefan paid for the site they got built and don't want to admit defeat and use a community-created one.

MrOmega
10-22-2010, 12:55 AM
Working on a Logo right now for the website, Using Macromedia Studios 8 to Develop. Tell me what you think overall and tell do you like the png or gif one?

fowlplay4
10-22-2010, 01:16 AM
That's honestly a hundred times worse imo.

MrOmega
10-22-2010, 01:17 AM
That's honestly a hundred times worse imo.

=[ Well tell me what you want?

kia345
10-22-2010, 01:33 AM
You don't have to give me money, I just want a Shetland pony

Fulg0reSama
10-22-2010, 01:37 AM
Why not both a pony and money?

DrakilorP2P
10-22-2010, 05:50 PM
Can't you make an unofficial website and link people to that instead?

LoneAngelIbesu
10-22-2010, 10:13 PM
You don't have to give me money, I just want a Shetland pony

Oh God, please let's not try and revive the past. Any design >3 years old is outdated. x_x

But yeah, what fowlplay4 said: this has been discussed to death. If you want a new website, get a professional game site developer. If you are one, then please make a new website. :cool:

Fulg0reSama
10-22-2010, 10:15 PM
I'm gonna flip If I read the word professional misused one more time.

If such a miracle exists to help chances are they aren't professional if they think graal is worth taking up.

LoneAngelIbesu
10-22-2010, 10:18 PM
If such a miracle exists to help chances are they aren't professional if they think graal is worth taking up.
A professional web designer won't care how popular or unpopular Graal is. They're getting paid for their work, either way. :cool:

kia345
10-22-2010, 10:21 PM
Oh God, please let's not try and revive the past. Any design >3 years old is outdated. x_x

It's simple. It's not cluttered. It's efficient.

A professional web designer won't care how popular or unpopular Graal is. They're getting paid for their work, either way. :cool:

Chances are the current website was made by a "professional" who didn't know anything about Graal. Soala playing around in Frontpage would probably be better.

Supaman771
10-23-2010, 12:38 AM
You don't have to give me money, I just want a Shetland pony

It's scrumdilliumptious.

Added like this plox.

LoneAngelIbesu
10-23-2010, 05:39 AM
It's simple. It's not cluttered. It's efficient.
Eh. It's ugly and old, by today's standards. 'Simple, clean, and efficient' shouldn't be the only things taken into consideration. Besides, nothing about that design says, "Graal is a game!" But there's already a discussion somewhere about Graal designs, and that one was probably discussed, as it's not the first time I've seen it suggested.

Chances are the current website was made by a "professional" who didn't know anything about Graal. Soala playing around in Frontpage would probably be better.
The current website was probably made by a "professional" who received ideas from Unixmad, and did with them what they wanted. Said professional probably wasn't at the forefront of modern web design, either. :(

But hey, if you know an actual, great designer who plays Graal, that's nice! You should try and convince them to make a mock-up.

Deas_Voice
10-23-2010, 05:37 PM
Can't you make an unofficial website and link people to that instead?

this.

xXziroXx
10-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Can't you make an unofficial website and link people to that instead?

The problem is that people get confused when it comes to how to register, download the client, upgrade the account etc. and quite frankly - any of the previous website designs were hell of a lot more logical and organized than the current garbage.

Soala
10-23-2010, 06:55 PM
It's not that hard to think about something simple, functional and good looking. It just requires some work.
Hell, that's what making websites is all about!

Crono
10-23-2010, 07:26 PM
how to fix website:

turn back time machine to anything before 2006

done

WhiteDragon
10-24-2010, 10:30 PM
I did post a mockup ages ago in another thread.

Edit:
http://althack.org/graal/sketch-wd-2.png

Enchanted Wolf XxX
10-24-2010, 11:01 PM
You don't have to give me money, I just want a Shetland pony

This one is nice, the buttons are dumb, could use some touch up, but clean nonetheless.

New site should include an official Graal wiki of all servers, information about iPhone, and a real download/registration button >_>

MattKan
10-24-2010, 11:50 PM
I did post a mockup ages ago in another thread.

Edit:
http://althack.org/graal/sketch-wd-2.png

This is what Graal needs.

Cosss
10-25-2010, 12:02 AM
[email protected]

Soala
10-25-2010, 12:37 AM
I'd totaly like to go on that website, everything's clearly displayed and it's rather simple. Great start :)

kia345
10-25-2010, 02:26 AM
You can have my pony

fowlplay4
10-25-2010, 02:37 AM
Your pony died because it wasn't pretty enough.

Cosss
10-25-2010, 03:22 AM
Just like all my friends and family. :cry:

Crono
10-25-2010, 06:48 AM
"made by player, for players"

lol

MattKan
10-28-2010, 12:07 AM
Keeping in mind that Graal's ultimate purpose is to make Stefan money, why hasn't he redone, or at least assembled a team to do it for him, the website? It's driving players away by how ugly it is... It should probably be a priority for Graal to fix this.. ?_?

jorollychu
10-28-2010, 01:19 AM
Does it have trainers. If it does, I will report it.

LoneAngelIbesu
11-01-2010, 12:35 AM
I did post a mockup ages ago in another thread.

I like the header, but that's really all that looks finished. It's a decent mockup, though. The content block just needs refining, and we need some kind of actual Graal logo that represents the main type of server on the game.

Demisis_P2P
11-01-2010, 01:01 AM
I'll mock something up and post it when I get internet at home.
I think it should be very community orientated, like bringing back the online profiles for each player that shows their stats on each server, showing the most active global guilds on the front page, etc.

qw3rt
11-01-2010, 04:55 PM
I did post a mockup ages ago in another thread.

Edit:
http://althack.org/graal/sketch-wd-2.png

i like it, the design can be improved but theses tabs menus are good.

Fulg0reSama
11-01-2010, 05:08 PM
It's hilarious because the mock-up is better than the current.

Crono
11-01-2010, 06:14 PM
the classic adventure game

featuring zodiac, the newest server

i am best marketing guiy ever

Supaman771
11-05-2010, 01:06 AM
the classic adventure game

featuring zodiac, the newest server

i am best marketing guiy ever

The game where you pay about as much monthly as WoW or Runescape to deal with abusive staff, annoying players, mediocre updates, and poor content.

If you enjoy any of these things, this game is for you!

xXziroXx
11-05-2010, 03:15 AM
The game where you pay about as much monthly as WoW

Math can't have been your strong subject. You pay like $19 a month for WoW, whereas you pay $34 for 8 months of Graal ($4.25 a month) as most expensive. If you get the $91 pack you get Graal for 24 months for the price of $3.7 a month.

Luda
11-05-2010, 06:02 AM
I wouldn't mind that over the current one, but with some fix ups. That banner/logo is horrible. That title is awful too, "The Classic Online Adventure Game... .. made by players, for players." lmao

Cosss
11-05-2010, 05:19 PM
get rid of made by players and classic

Supaman771
11-05-2010, 07:31 PM
Math can't have been your strong subject. You pay like $19 a month for WoW, whereas you pay $34 for 8 months of Graal ($4.25 a month) as most expensive. If you get the $91 pack you get Graal for 24 months for the price of $3.7 a month.

Point being: That is the only thing you found wrong about my statement...

I don't play WoW so I wouldn't know subscription prices, sorry was just making a point.

Stephen
11-05-2010, 09:45 PM
Point being: That is the only thing you found wrong about my statement...

I don't play WoW so I wouldn't know subscription prices, sorry was just making a point.
He's using rhetoric to point out the overall failure of your argument. I can't disagree with him.

xXziroXx
11-06-2010, 12:06 AM
Point being: That is the only thing you found wrong about my statement...

I don't play WoW so I wouldn't know subscription prices, sorry was just making a point.

You tried making Graal sound like it's too expensive and not worth it, when in fact you had nothing to back you up - not even prices. Yes, I agree that the current content on Graal is lackluster at best, but expensive? No, lol, far from it.

Admins
11-07-2010, 03:22 AM
The mockup looks quite good.

fowlplay4
11-07-2010, 03:29 AM
The mockup looks quite good.

Hire one of those web designers with all that Classic iPhone dough you're raking in and get it made for real.

kia345
11-07-2010, 03:58 AM
And then buy bread

12171217
11-13-2010, 10:25 PM
And then buy bread

See signature.

Seeya
11-13-2010, 11:37 PM
http://www.bized.co.uk/images/bread_stats.gif

Vima
11-15-2010, 12:16 AM
Hire one of those web designers with all that Classic iPhone dough you're raking in and get it made for real.

+1 will generate more money in long term. Graal will look more professional.

PowerProNL
01-01-2011, 11:46 AM
:O I made those peoples set up a web development team?